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Author Topic: Astra J 1.6 A16XER (115 hp) 2010 Outer Belt (and perhaps Timing Belt, too  (Read 8011 times)

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Sure, understood, just want to get that pump  here when neede some day.
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That was my thinking for getting the kit with water pump  :)
just the pump is upwards of £25 on it's own if not purchased as part of a kit ,
and if you have a spare of something the original never fails  :-X
then the old pump was staring at me ,easy to get at  ::) so i swapped it  for the new one   :P
that's happened 3 times now  :D (we have 5 astras and 2 zafiras) 
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Thanks for good tips, ordered from the Trusted Guy today. When I locate the metal bar between cams I need to remove cam cover. Is the gasget reusable or should I buy new one in advance. And I am sure that when I am down there I certainly change the water pump, too.
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Thanks for good tips, ordered from the Trusted Guy today. When I locate the metal bar between cams I need to remove cam cover. Is the gasget reusable or should I buy new one in advance. And I am sure that when I am down there I certainly change the water pump, too.

no need to remove the cam cover , the cam wedges will lock the cams and there's a crankshaft locking bracket to lock the bottom end (to remove the pulley, which is tight, and a stretch bolt ,included in the Gates kit)
 
i'll do spme pics of the set up in a bit and some more info  ;)
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Sorry the pics are so big , don't know how to resize them  :-[
just copy and paste them to your PC to view better  :P

so the red wedges will go between cams ( your cam sprockets will have VVT gubbins but the wedges should fit,none of mine are VVT)

IF NOT then you could lock the cams with the flat bar the other end ,gasket should be OK to re use IF you have to go that route ,but no guarantee on a used gasket .especially if some part swapper has been there before  :-X



the crank locking tool is put in the slot at the flywheel end of the block ,
and held in place with the bolt you remove from the engine mount



with the crankshaft locked ,you can wizz off the bottom pulley to put the belt on the crank



a hex key is used to take the tension off the tensioner pulley, the belt is tight when fitting, even with the tensioner slacked off ,don't forget to un-lock the crank by removing the locking bracket after you've torqued the crank pulley back on and put the bolt back in the front engine mount
also make sure the crank pully is correctly seated in the key before torqued up  :P
turn the engine over a few times by ratchet to check it's timed

all pretty simple stuff really  :)


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Thanks again, nice pictures (big enough, too). All understood, hopefully I find the slot in block for flywheel locking plate, is it in the windscreen side or radiator side of the engine? Daughter will come for Christmas with this Astra so I cannot study it beforehand...

I asked the usage of the metal bar as I found nice video enclosed here. That guy used both the bar and wedges, I guess wedges are enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed9m1f2P34E
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Next to the lower engine mount by the look of it :-\
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Thanks DG.
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Thanks again, nice pictures (big enough, too). All understood, hopefully I find the slot in block for flywheel locking plate, is it in the windscreen side or radiator side of the engine?

the crank locking tool goes in a slot at the front,(the slot is lower down and to the side of the 710 filter),  close to the rad side than the screen side  ,you will need to remove one bolt from the engine mount to then use to hold the crank lock bracket in place (if you don't remove the bolt the bracket won't sit as per my photo ) there's a slot in the back of the flywheel that the prong of the locking bracket goes into ,rotate the crank with a ratchet to align up the "window" so the prong will go in .

hard to explain ,easy to do

I asked the usage of the metal bar as I found nice video enclosed here. That guy used both the bar and wedges, I guess wedges are enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed9m1f2P34E

once the cam phasers/sprockets are locked with wedges i don't see how locking the cams the other end would serve any benefit unless you where taking the cylinder head off . but insert the flat bar as well if you like . i guess it does stop the phasers loading up .but you lock the crankshaft first anyway ,so the cams are held with the wedges and nothing moves.

shame the video doesn't show how to lock the crankshaft ,and the timing mark on the crank shaft sprocket can't be seen UNTIL the crank pully/harmonic damper is removed , which can't happen until you lock the crankshaft .

in that video the crank shaft locking tool is still in the blow moulded case  ::) so they must have windy gunned the stretch bolt out of the crankshaft to remove the pulley  :( leaving nothing to turn the engine to the correct timing

DON'T put spanners on the cam phaser sprockets or cams to turn the engine to timing marks , that won't end well  ;D
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Everything start to be clear, Thanks, Christmas is coming and daughter with Astra soon,too.

Not very informative video but the dog was nice!

What is the bright/grey tool in this box? What to do with that?
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What is the bright/grey tool in this box? What to do with that?

I've never used it , I think it may be used to lock the flywheel on another engine
these kits are clones of genuine GM workshop special tools ,very little info is available

I just used the tools i needed for 1.6 petrol 4 bangers from the kit  ;D

the thin wire type thing is obsolete (was to lock the cambelt tensioner but  they changed the design of the tensioner to be held back with a hex key (not included in the kit)
the thick round bar is to lock the aux belt tensioner
flat bar to lock the cams if you remove the head

Have fun  ;D
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Usually I make a comment when job jobbed. This time delivery time from U.K. was longer than expected. Timing kit came after Christmas and daughter with Astra already left. I only changed the outer belt which seemed to be worn. Hope that timing belt will last to Eastern time when I see Astra next time. So, year model 2010 and "only" 77000 km behind. Perhaps I do not have to worry about the timing belt yet?
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10 years was the time interval  100k mileage ,there was talk it had changed to 7 years/70k
are you saying it's done 77k or 177k  :-\

I didn't notice you where not in the UK sorry  :-[
kits i've ordered have been 48 hours ,but I am in the UK

Hopefully the Astra has a good strong mix of anti-freeze ?

with cambelts you never really know, could last another 100k or snap next turn of the key
even a cambelt within service interval can let go

Hopefully you will get the car back and sorted without incident  :)
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Thanks, I have 77 000 km, not 177 000 km. Dimension 'km' means kilometers and 60 miles is 100 kilometers so is the mileage 100k we talk 100 000 miles?
Antifreeze ok, -36 centigrate guaranteed...
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ah OK  :)
10 years or 100,000 miles was the original interval in the UK

Mileage on a car can be deceptive anyway
example ..... a car can do 50 miles a day at 50MPH total run time 1 hour,
another car may do 5 miles per day but spend 2 hours stuck in traffic idling
both cars may show 30,000 miles on the odometer ,but engine and component wear will be very different  :P

 

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