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Re: Bugger
« Reply #30 on: 08 March 2007, 18:55:18 »

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TB - hope the brown envelope does not land on your doorstep in the next 14 days....

Couple of things in no particular order that are relevant to the thread, not to your particular circumstances, hopefully.   ;)

Nicking threshold varies from Force to Force and even then, road to road.  Used to be a blanket speed limit +12 mph (inclusive) but this has dropped considerably by Safety Camera Pratnerships...  Most 'real' traffic cops still interpret the limits realistically to ensure a balance between safety and traffic flow.  For example, sometimes its a bad idea to have an artic lorry doing his legal limited 40 mph in 'rush hour' morning or evening traffic on a single lane A road rather than the mechanical limited 56....

£60 and three points for a straight forward speeding.  Higher speeds, contentious locations (outside schools) can get more.

Points count towards totting up for 3 years but remain on your licence for 4.  Or 10 years and 11, in the case of a 10 year drink/drive ban.  

5 years is the general countback for insurance companies, but some of the cheaper premium ones look for further back in order to keep the premiums acceptably low and get your business.  Take care to answer the q's on the proposal form (or tele call) correctly as any failure to intimate facts is deemed a material non disclosure and insurance could thus be voided.  Be a b*gger if your pride and joy just got clobbered by a lorry.....

Laser and jamming.  Its an offence under the Wireless Telegraphy Act as priviously pointed out to jam or disrupt the signals from the speed detector.  Further, in Scotland, you could also be reported for section 41(1)(a) of the Police (Scotland) Act whereby you obstruct, molest or hinder an Officer (and a camera operator as far as this act is concerned is also an 'Officer') in the execution of their duty.

Speed detectors and similar.  The court case referred to where use deemed lawfull applied to England and Wales only.  Strictly speaking, speed detectors in your vehicle are stilled deemed unlawful in Scotland and nickable.  No offence to sell them in Halfords or similar or indeed for you to buy them, but an offence to use and react on 'info' received!!

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Is it illegal then, to hold the camera database on a device that warns you of a camera position, and tells you the speed limit of the road, and also whether you are exceeding that speed limit?

I would have said not......coz that uses GPS technology...Its the radar type detectors that seem a grey area to me  :y
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« Reply #31 on: 08 March 2007, 21:20:58 »

The holding of a database and acting on the info held is absolutely fine - think about the AA or whoever issued the Road Atlases with the info printed in them - as you are simply using a GPS device to plot your position relative to that of the 'Accident Blackspot'..

The difficulty and problems arise due to 'reading' or interfering with the transmitted signal from the speed detection device and reacting to the fact that the device is there.  You know what its for and adjust your speed accordingly if required.

Think about those black and white films you see on TCM of cops and robbers.  The robbers monitor the police radio frequency and react to info received or jam the frequency so the Cops cannot speak in order to evade detection.  The analogy remains the same regarding speed detectors/jammers, even though your not on an Italian Job type run......

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Re: Bugger
« Reply #32 on: 08 March 2007, 21:28:30 »

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Due to being late cox all the motorways were 'dangle berries'ed, I may have got snapped by a camera van, doing 60 in a 50mph stretch on empty dual carriageway in London  :'(

Opps!!  thats the thing about us women, fast drivers but careful!! (well maybe sometimes) x x
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« Reply #33 on: 08 March 2007, 23:32:01 »

Tom Tom is very good if it's up to date. Mine doesn't cover all the cameras but most of the new ones I know. Got mine on a free off the web. Passed a mobile  @ 36 in a 40. never heard a thing. Hope you're lucky. You never Know. GOOD LUCK.
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« Reply #34 on: 09 March 2007, 07:02:51 »

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Tom Tom is very good if it's up to date. Mine doesn't cover all the cameras but most of the new ones I know. Got mine on a free off the web. Passed a mobile  @ 36 in a 40. never heard a thing. Hope you're lucky. You never Know. GOOD LUCK.

In my opinion, the Talex system is far superior to any of the Sat Nav systems I have seen upto now.

This is based on my experience, and feedback of others I know who have both.


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« Reply #35 on: 09 March 2007, 18:54:31 »

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Due to being late cox all the motorways were 'dangle berries'ed, I may have got snapped by a camera van, doing 60 in a 50mph stretch on empty dual carriageway in London  :'(

Opps!!  thats the thing about us women, fast drivers but careful!! (well maybe sometimes) x x
Yes, Mrs TheBoy isn't one to drive slowly ::)
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« Reply #36 on: 09 March 2007, 20:57:26 »

If it was from a TLI 20-20 they are not infallable.  Trevor McDonald hosted a programme tonight outlining the flaws, but basically it needs to have been locked on to your front number plate and given that you stepped on the brake at the same time your odds are looking up.  :y
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« Reply #37 on: 09 March 2007, 21:03:32 »

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If it was from a TLI 20-20 they are not infallable.  Trevor McDonald hosted a programme tonight outlining the flaws, but basically it needs to have been locked on to your front number plate and given that you stepped on the brake at the same time your odds are looking up.  :y
Saw it.

However, if I do get the envelope through the door, its fair as far as I'm concerned (presuming of course it says I was doing the speed I think I was doing).
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