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Re: Freeander 1.8 over heating...
« Reply #15 on: 09 March 2007, 19:00:48 »

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But that's where i get confused (easily done  Grin) ... there is not a single trace of Mayo under the oil filler cap! And no trace of exhaust gasses in the coolant header tank  undecided

The K is a wet liner engine, so the only failure mode for the head gasket if leaking from around the bores (where they all fail due to liner movement) is into the coolant jacket. There is no deck on the top of the block to allow the bores to blow into the oil return holes and it's very unlikely that the oil gallery feed into the head, or the oil return holes into the sump, would fail on their own.

I'd get a garage to look for evidence of exhaust fumes in the expansion tank if you're still sceptical.

These are exactly the same symptoms I had on my Rover 214 years ago. Didn't have a clue about cars then and, I'm ashamed to say, I assumed it just needed a flush, did so and then sold it to a mate of mine who had HGF a couple of weeks later! Luckily he wrote it off soon after that so he couldn't blame me for anything else.  :-[

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Re: Freeander 1.8 over heating...
« Reply #16 on: 09 March 2007, 19:12:03 »

Tunnie, HG.

Easy enough repair though.
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Re: Freeander 1.8 over heating...
« Reply #17 on: 09 March 2007, 19:16:22 »

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Tunnie, HG.

Easy enough repair though.

£150 sees it done diy  :y
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Re: Freeander 1.8 over heating...
« Reply #18 on: 09 March 2007, 19:24:17 »

Cheers guys!  :y

I'd love to get stuck into it, was so tempted to. Can't at the moment, due to project requirements.

However i will let next door know, and maybe in Easter get stuck in  :D
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Re: Freeander 1.8 over heating...
« Reply #19 on: 09 March 2007, 19:28:05 »

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Cheers guys!  :y

I'd love to get stuck into it, was so tempted to. Can't at the moment, due to project requirements.

However i will let next door know, and maybe in Easter get stuck in  :D
If they have driven it much like that, they may have done more damage.

Also, leaving oil in the coolant pipes will cause them to fail.  I think they may be best off getting quote from garage ;)
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Re: Freeander 1.8 over heating...
« Reply #20 on: 09 March 2007, 22:17:08 »

O ring seals between the water heated manifold and the block. They are the achilles heel of the K series engine. They fail and because the cooling system has a very small amount of coolent the engine overheats and THEN blows the HG. :(
Get them done now before the engine self destructs.

Hope this is not too late .......

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Re: Freeander 1.8 over heating...
« Reply #21 on: 09 March 2007, 23:41:39 »

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Only Rover would put a 1.8 engine in something that size!  ::)


I agree....only Rover.....want an auto?.....sorry but you carnt have one....1.8...freelander...auto...is not a possible option!
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Re: Freeander 1.8 over heating...
« Reply #22 on: 10 March 2007, 00:11:11 »

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Only Rover would put a 1.8 engine in something that size!

Obviously the first engine they found lying around when they penned the design ::)

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Re: Freeander 1.8 over heating...
« Reply #23 on: 10 March 2007, 08:06:54 »

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Cheers guys!  :y

I'd love to get stuck into it, was so tempted to. Can't at the moment, due to project requirements.

However i will let next door know, and maybe in Easter get stuck in  :D

Definately HG

These can be done in a day, can't they Jaime ;D
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Re: Freeander 1.8 over heating...
« Reply #24 on: 10 March 2007, 08:53:23 »

On these engines, headgasket failure does not follow the usual signs.....and this is a classis K series failure......

Why the hell they pu a K series in a 4x4 with its incredibly poor low down torque is beyond me.....I guess they realy didn't have any other options.
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Re: Freeander 1.8 over heating...
« Reply #25 on: 10 March 2007, 09:53:31 »

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On these engines, headgasket failure does not follow the usual signs.....and this is a classis K series failure......

Why the hell they pu a K series in a 4x4 with its incredibly poor low down torque is beyond me.....I guess they realy didn't have any other options.
Remember, Freelander's design was compromised by BMW's management...   ...and remember, BMW where desperate to differentiate the (then upcoming) more expensive X3...
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Re: Freeander 1.8 over heating...
« Reply #26 on: 10 March 2007, 14:05:54 »

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BMW where desperate to differentiate the (then upcoming) more expensive X3.

They certainly managed that. Had my first drive in an X3 recently and was impressed (goes to wash mouth out with fairy liquid). It was a bit skittish about the straight ahead position but I soon realised that you didn't have to grit your teeth when approaching corners to quite the same degree as with other chelsea tractors. It was almost like driving a real car.  ;)

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Re: Freeander 1.8 over heating...
« Reply #27 on: 10 March 2007, 14:57:03 »

The reason I've got the 2.5 V6 freelander is because of this.

check this out: http://forums.preloved.co.uk/fuseaction-forums.showdiscussion/maxrows-20/startrow-1/thread_id-10411/93e028c3.html - pretty much everyone a 1.8 k-series hg failure.

This car is THE worst thing I've ever seen, land rover should be shot, burnt, then shot again for building it, and BMW should be strung up along with them for screwing so many people over.

I had overheating problems on the 2.5, of course I instantly thought HG, but it wasn't - thermostat knackered itself, warped the inlet manifold which you can only buy from LR for £450!! Idiots.

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Re: Freeander 1.8 over heating...
« Reply #28 on: 10 March 2007, 15:02:56 »

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The reason I've got the 2.5 V6 freelander is because of this.

check this out: http://forums.preloved.co.uk/fuseaction-forums.showdiscussion/maxrows-20/startrow-1/thread_id-10411/93e028c3.html - pretty much everyone a 1.8 k-series hg failure.

This car is THE worst thing I've ever seen, land rover should be shot, burnt, then shot again for building it, and BMW should be strung up along with them for screwing so many people over.

I had overheating problems on the 2.5, of course I instantly thought HG, but it wasn't - thermostat knackered itself, warped the inlet manifold which you can only buy from LR for £450!! Idiots.

Doesn't the V6 Freelander have the KV6 engine. If so, yet another quality solution from Powertrain Ltd. Not.

The whole K thing (inc KV6, and engine hastily developed as they obviously couldn't keep using Honda once BMW bought Rover) needed further development for reliability, and again, BMW management would not allow this.
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Re: Freeander 1.8 over heating...
« Reply #29 on: 10 March 2007, 17:59:31 »

My fathers Freelander 1.8 had the same problems about a year ago. He had a recon engine put in at a cost of about £1500 and thats now done exactly the same, lots of steam ect.... Lucky it was just in warranty. Hes had another recon engine put in and is now going to sell it.
 I told him not to buy it in the 1st place. Absolute junk.
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