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Title: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: zirk on 20 February 2018, 21:56:23
Well, almost it still works but the handle is now cracked and wont open (its still got my Dinner in it), its a Tosh, big one, bought back in 1981, was expecting it to last a bit longer if Im honest.

Anyway whats worth buying, dont want cheap shite, but then dont want to be spending loads on one, whats good, with any new features, and hopefully will last, unlike the my one thats just broke.  ::)  :D

Ta.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Bigron on 20 February 2018, 22:00:05
Consider going for a catering model, that the professionals use?
They are made for all-day use and should last a bit longer in domestic use.

Ron.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Varche on 20 February 2018, 22:02:14
36 years. I am guessing any leaking radiation will have put paid to children.

Nothing you buy now will last 36 years.

Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: zirk on 20 February 2018, 22:05:05
Ta Ron, any particular make?

Noticed on the Web now now there are combination ones, ie Grill or Oven combined and some that will Steam, any good or just a marketing hype to charge more money.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: zirk on 20 February 2018, 22:07:11
36 years. I am guessing any leaking radiation will have put paid to children.

Nothing you buy now will last 36 years.
Ah, good thinking Varche, I'll ask my three Boys if theve got anything kicking around.  ;)
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Bigron on 20 February 2018, 22:11:40
No, not hype; they are well worth having. Mine's a Panasonic "Inverter" model and the grill isn't fantastic, but works ok and is very useful for plate-warming. The convection oven part is terrific, pre-heating to a set temperature then timing the cooking from then.
The mictowave: well, it's a microwave, and just works.
It's just a domestic model  though, and not 36 years old!

Ron.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Mister Rog on 20 February 2018, 22:21:54

Buy the cheapest you can get and dump it after two years or so for another cheapo. Kitchen "white goods" are designed to be disposable these days.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Terbs on 20 February 2018, 22:35:43
Our Microwave in the caravan lights up and turns, but it does not heat anything. Any thoughts whether it is fixable, or what is the cause !!! :(
Its a Tesco one and is six years old. :y
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Bigron on 20 February 2018, 22:38:50
Almost certain to be the Magnetron, which generates the microwave energy to cook your food.
As with Lexmark printer cartridges, it will be cheaper to bin it and buy new that replace!

Ron.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Terbs on 20 February 2018, 22:51:57
Thanks Ron :y
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 21 February 2018, 00:24:06

Buy the cheapest you can get and dump it after two years or so for another cheapo. Kitchen "white goods" are designed to be disposable these days.

This ^
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 February 2018, 01:01:40
Gotta love a white goods thread!  :y
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 February 2018, 10:17:53
Almost certain to be the Magnetron, which generates the microwave energy to cook your food.
As with Lexmark printer cartridges, it will be cheaper to bin it and buy new that replace!

Ron.

Its almost certainly not the magnetron.  :y

Three key parts go, those being the High voltage capacitor, the HV rectifier diode and the HV fuse (the former two can take the fuse out).

Easy enough to check with a multimeter, had to replace the diode on a Sanyo catering one last year (it was 14 months old) and have fixed many a failed capacitor.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Bigron on 21 February 2018, 10:24:41
Interesting. Your experience is quite different from mine! I did consider the capacitor as a possibility, but I've never had one fail - only Magnetrons. The usual reason for Magnetron failure is when 'er indoors puts some large metal dish inside - they don't like it up 'em!  :(

Ron.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 21 February 2018, 10:26:39
No, not hype; they are well worth having. Mine's a Panasonic "Inverter" model and the grill isn't fantastic, but works ok and is very useful for plate-warming. The convection oven part is terrific, pre-heating to a set temperature then timing the cooking from then.
The mictowave: well, it's a microwave, and just works.
It's just a domestic model  though, and not 36 years old!

Ron.

Snap!!

How strange is that Ron?  Got the same one, known as the Slimline Combi, the second I have had in 18 years.  Great features, and quality performance. Highly recommended! 8) 8) :y

Still on the market Zirk:

https://www.johnlewis.com/panasonic-nn-st479s-sensor-microwave-oven-stainless-steel/p230874140?sku=230874140&s_kwcid=2dx92700024307466798&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=Cj0KCQiAzrTUBRCnARIsAL0mqcyYviJcOelNvapfvQxwbKgZKfG3JKQRWmBywqd_fnsaz0PskJ8-ycMaAsoREALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: zirk on 21 February 2018, 11:07:36

Still on the market Zirk:

https://www.johnlewis.com/panasonic-nn-st479s-sensor-microwave-oven-stainless-steel/p230874140?sku=230874140&s_kwcid=2dx92700024307466798&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=Cj0KCQiAzrTUBRCnARIsAL0mqcyYviJcOelNvapfvQxwbKgZKfG3JKQRWmBywqd_fnsaz0PskJ8-ycMaAsoREALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Thanks Lizzie, thats great, only thing is, its a 27 Litre, my Belly is 28 Litres,  :)

Plus it has a Child Lock feature, cant help thinking with my Dinner inside, Child Lock and all thoses Buttons on the front of it.  ;D

Not to mention the, well,   ..... 150 Quid.  :'(
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 21 February 2018, 11:30:37

Still on the market Zirk:

https://www.johnlewis.com/panasonic-nn-st479s-sensor-microwave-oven-stainless-steel/p230874140?sku=230874140&s_kwcid=2dx92700024307466798&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=Cj0KCQiAzrTUBRCnARIsAL0mqcyYviJcOelNvapfvQxwbKgZKfG3JKQRWmBywqd_fnsaz0PskJ8-ycMaAsoREALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Thanks Lizzie, thats great, only thing is, its a 27 Litre, my Belly is 28 Litres,  :)

Plus it has a Child Lock feature, cant help thinking with my Dinner inside, Child Lock and all thoses Buttons on the front of it.  ;D

Not to mention the, well,   ..... 150 Quid.  :'(


Is 28 litres as opposed to 27 that important Zirk?  Just cut down on your meal sizes! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)

But, if that is important these are the Micro's available currently from Amazon, but some of the prices are far worse than £150! :o :o :o

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=28+litre+microwave&tag=googhydr-21&index=kitchen&hvadid=196729019949&hvpos=1t1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5373178551510639186&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006483&hvtargid=kwd-295358224500&ref=pd_sl_5uyb1pivzi_b_p28


As for the child lock: never used it, never will and in fact never noticed mine had one! ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: aaronjb on 21 February 2018, 11:41:12
Child lock doesn't lock the door, just locks out the buttons..

My favourite button is the "Chaos Defrost" button, just because of the name.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Bigron on 21 February 2018, 12:41:45
Child lock doesn't lock the door, just locks out the buttons..

My favourite button is the "Chaos Defrost" button, just because of the name.


Mine has one of those; what does it do?

Ron.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: aaronjb on 21 February 2018, 13:06:48
Apparently it's just a fancy defrost.. I googled - random pulses of microwaves to auto defrost (based on weight) more evenly.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Bigron on 21 February 2018, 13:21:32
Ta.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: YZ250 on 21 February 2018, 16:03:10
No, not hype; they are well worth having. Mine's a Panasonic "Inverter" model and the grill isn't fantastic, but works ok and is very useful for plate-warming. The convection oven part is terrific,
.................

Same here.  :y  Oven and microwave great but I've never been shown how to use the grill part.  ;D
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: zirk on 21 February 2018, 16:09:12
Ok, didn't realise how expensive the non rubbish ones are  :o

Made some calls, through a contact I can get one of these for £79.95 -

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/household-appliances/cooking/microwaves/kenwood-k25cse16-combination-microwave-silver-10145658-pdt.html

Ex Display, no box or Manuals, not fussed about that, but new and full guarantee, what do you think?
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: ronnyd on 21 February 2018, 16:56:45
I got a Kenwood oven a few weeks ago, (not the same model as link). Was 1/2 price (90 quid). Great bargain. Currys.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 21 February 2018, 17:12:11
Ok, didn't realise how expensive the non rubbish ones are  :o

Made some calls, through a contact I can get one of these for £79.95 -

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/household-appliances/cooking/microwaves/kenwood-k25cse16-combination-microwave-silver-10145658-pdt.html

Ex Display, no box or Manuals, not fussed about that, but new and full guarantee, what do you think?

Yes,that is OK as it is a Kenwood, a brand I like.  But it is 'only' 25 litres and I thought you wanted 28 and lacks the chaos defrost :o :o

But if you like it for 1/2 price you cannot really go wrong with that
 :y
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Bigron on 21 February 2018, 18:27:19
No, not hype; they are well worth having. Mine's a Panasonic "Inverter" model and the grill isn't fantastic, but works ok and is very useful for plate-warming. The convection oven part is terrific,
.................

Same here.  :y  Oven and microwave great but I've never been shown how to use the grill part.  ;D

I hope you are joking? It's simple; press the grill button (no power options), tell it how long to grill on the timer buttons and leave it to get on with it.
Ten minutes makes plates really toasty to keep your brekkie warm, but don't bother toasting bread!

Ron.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: YZ250 on 21 February 2018, 19:14:55
No, not hype; they are well worth having. Mine's a Panasonic "Inverter" model and the grill isn't fantastic, but works ok and is very useful for plate-warming. The convection oven part is terrific,
.................

Same here.  :y  Oven and microwave great but I've never been shown how to use the grill part.  ;D

I hope you are joking? It's simple; press the grill button (no power options), tell it how long to grill on the timer buttons and leave it to get on with it.
Ten minutes makes plates really toasty to keep your brekkie warm, but don't bother toasting bread!

Ron.

White goods are her department so I don't really need to understand it. :)  Ours says 'Grill 1-2-3 so is much more confusing.  ;D 

One thing I do know is that if you put a casserole dish with foil on in it and select microwave, you will get the best indoor firework display ever. The downside is that your house will smell like you've had an electrical fire and you have to buy a new microwave ..... ummm .... errr ...... allegedly.  ::)
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: TheBoy on 21 February 2018, 19:17:41
Ours is a Panasonic Inverter model, microwave/convection/grill, and does the job.

Its a bit too complicated for me, but she doesn't grumble about it.


It does do one of the best microwave baked spuds I've tasted, by using microwave and grill in unison.  Obviously still not a real baked spud, but close, and only 14mins.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: omegod on 21 February 2018, 19:33:31
I do baked spuds in the slow cooker, chuck em in on low when going to work and they are deeeeeeeeeeeeeeelicious when I get in
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: STEMO on 21 February 2018, 19:34:31
I do baked spuds in the slow cooker, chuck em in on low when going to work and they are deeeeeeeeeeeeeeelicious when I get in
It's a spud.....with burnt skin.  ;D
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: TheBoy on 21 February 2018, 19:35:32
I do baked spuds in the slow cooker, chuck em in on low when going to work and they are deeeeeeeeeeeeeeelicious when I get in
That's another kitchen appliance that is to complex for normal blokes to master.

Pink job!
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: Bigron on 21 February 2018, 19:42:58
Ours is a Panasonic Inverter model, microwave/convection/grill, and does the job.

Its a bit too complicated for me, but she doesn't grumble about it.


It does do one of the best microwave baked spuds I've tasted, by using microwave and grill in unison.  Obviously still not a real baked spud, but close, and only 14mins.

That'smy model too - how do you use them in unison? I'm a bloke, so don't read instructions!

Ron.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: BazaJT on 21 February 2018, 19:57:31
I have a Morphy Richards microwave/convection oven.It's about 5yrs old now and given that I don't have a cooker[haven't for about 15yrs]it has had some usage in one format or the other for most days of that 5yrs I've had it.Favourite kitchen appliance though has to be my slow cooker.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: STEMO on 21 February 2018, 20:02:13
I have a Morphy Richards microwave/convection oven.It's about 5yrs old now and given that I don't have a cooker[haven't for about 15yrs]it has had some usage in one format or the other for most days of that 5yrs I've had it.Favourite kitchen appliance though has to be my slow cooker.
Why no cooker, Baza?
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: BazaJT on 21 February 2018, 20:16:33
Maureen[in her wisdom :D]got it in her head all those years ago that we didn't actually need one,so we got a microwave/oven[that one lasted about 10yrs]a slow cooker,an electric wok and a George Foreman grill and called it done-oh,also got a pop up toaster with an extra bit on the end that'll boil 4 eggs or poach 2 eggs at a time and a deep fat fryer[tried one of those air fryer things and couldn't get on with that]she passed away 3yrs ago but I've stuck with what there is they do me just fine.
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: omegod on 21 February 2018, 20:33:49
I do baked spuds in the slow cooker, chuck em in on low when going to work and they are deeeeeeeeeeeeeeelicious when I get in
That's another kitchen appliance that is to complex for normal blokes to master.

Pink job!

No no no it's perfect for the man, chuck a load of random stuff in and a jar of sauce switch it on and bingo a tasty dish when you get in, a leg of lamb done in it is unfluffing believable 
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: TheBoy on 21 February 2018, 20:59:00
Ours is a Panasonic Inverter model, microwave/convection/grill, and does the job.

Its a bit too complicated for me, but she doesn't grumble about it.


It does do one of the best microwave baked spuds I've tasted, by using microwave and grill in unison.  Obviously still not a real baked spud, but close, and only 14mins.

That'smy model too - how do you use them in unison? I'm a bloke, so don't read instructions!

Ron.
It has a button that says baked spud, then type in weight, and wait for it to bleep 14mins later....
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: TheBoy on 21 February 2018, 20:59:19
I do baked spuds in the slow cooker, chuck em in on low when going to work and they are deeeeeeeeeeeeeeelicious when I get in
That's another kitchen appliance that is to complex for normal blokes to master.

Pink job!

No no no it's perfect for the man, chuck a load of random stuff in and a jar of sauce switch it on and bingo a tasty dish when you get in, a leg of lamb done in it is unfluffing believable
Defo sounds like a pink job to me...
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: zirk on 24 February 2018, 14:58:58
Got fed up Window Shopping and Scratching my head, so decided to take the Door apart and fix it.  ::)

So, some Proxy Resin, alloy sheet and some Bolts and a good clean up, still using the same Microwave,  :y maybe for another 30+ years. if I live that long.  :(  ;D
Title: Re: Microwaves gone Bang
Post by: STEMO on 24 February 2018, 16:14:18
Got fed up Window Shopping and Scratching my head, so decided to take the Door apart and fix it.  ::)

So, some Proxy Resin, alloy sheet and some Bolts and a good clean up, still using the same Microwave,  :y maybe for another 30+ years. if I live that long.  :(  ;D
You'll have been on here for 800 days if you do.