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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 July 2018, 12:31:49
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I now have a printout of my tracking/wheel alignment test.
Can somebody decipher the results in simple terms.
£162 to put right if I let Tata do it.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/dea3qw.png)
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Yes, your front toe and rear camber are comically bad :y
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Not sure the toe is much of an issue. If the steering wheel isn't noticeably offset from straight ahead I'd argue they just clamped the steering wheel wrong.
Rear camber is interesting, though. Certainly not £162 worth of issues there. :o
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Its pretty bad but should be adjustable for half what the dealer want.....camber caster and toe can be adjusted.
Has it got air suspension?
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The car 'seems' fine to drive. I've driven 3 supercharged XFR's in total and this one seems the best with just 12000 miles beneath it's wheels.
Yet it's a bit of a basket case. :-\
Yes it has air suspension.
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All wheel drive?
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Basically, Opti, it's scrap value at best with this setup.
Best you sell me the whole car, for £500.00 :y
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Not sure the toe is much of an issue. If the steering wheel isn't noticeably offset from straight ahead I'd argue they just clamped the steering wheel wrong.
Rear camber is interesting, though. Certainly not £162 worth of issues there. :o
This does seem excessive.
Exactly what is the difference between tacking (which is what the garage used to offer) and 4 wheel alignment which should presumably cost about £80.
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All wheel drive?
Rear wheel drive in the best tradition. :)
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Not sure the toe is much of an issue. If the steering wheel isn't noticeably offset from straight ahead I'd argue they just clamped the steering wheel wrong.
Rear camber is interesting, though. Certainly not £162 worth of issues there. :o
Steering wheel is straight. Tyres wearing evenly.
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Basically, Opti, it's scrap value at best with this setup.
Best you sell me the whole car, for £500.00 :y
;D ;D Worth a try, eh?
Exactly what is the difference between tacking (which is what the garage used to offer) and 4 wheel alignment which should presumably cost about £80.
Nothing but the words.. in fact to a lot of places "tracking" would mean just setting the front toe and ignoring the other settings & wheels..
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So settings should be:
Ride Height
Front - 385mm +/- 12mm (measured centre of wheel to apex of wheel arch, all fluid full, full tank, no occupants/luggage, tyres inflated to normal pressure)
Rear - 384mm +/- 12mm (measured centre of wheel to apex of wheel arch, all fluid full, full tank, no occupants/luggage, tyres inflated to normal pressure)
Front
Camber Left -0.36 (+/-.25), Right -0.12 (+/-.25) Balance -.24 (+/-.25) (Balance = left-right)
Caster Left -6.53 (+/-.45), Right -6.20 (+/-.45) Balance -.33 (+/-.45) (Balance = left-right)
Toe-Total Toe 0.13 (+/-.12)
Rear
Camber Left -0.59 (+/-.25), Right -0.59 (+/-.25) Balance -.24 (+/-.25) (Balance = left-right)
Toe Left 0.5 (+/-.8 ), Right 0.5 (+/-.8 ) Total Toe - 0.1 (+/-.12)
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Silly question, but if the steering wheel is straight and the tyres are wearing evenly, what is the problem?
I've reported on here before that my 4-wheel alignment and tracking cost me £64 (with OOF discount) at Tyre-Smart in Witham, Essex - too far for you!
Doesn't the Forum usually recommend WIM?
Ron.
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So settings should be:
Ride Height
Front - 385mm +/- 12mm (measured centre of wheel to apex of wheel arch, all fluid full, full tank, no occupants/luggage, tyres inflated to normal pressure)
Rear - 384mm +/- 12mm (measured centre of wheel to apex of wheel arch, all fluid full, full tank, no occupants/luggage, tyres inflated to normal pressure)
Front
Camber Left -0.36 (+/-.25), Right -0.12 (+/-.25) Balance -.24 (+/-.25) (Balance = left-right)
Caster Left -6.53 (+/-.45), Right -6.20 (+/-.45) Balance -.33 (+/-.45) (Balance = left-right)
Toe-Total Toe 0.13 (+/-.12)
Rear
Camber Left -0.59 (+/-.25), Right -0.59 (+/-.25) Balance -.24 (+/-.25) (Balance = left-right)
Toe Left 0.5 (+/-.8 ), Right 0.5 (+/-.8 ) Total Toe - 0.1 (+/-.12)
Why are the front numbers different side to side? Or is the chassis built twisted ???
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Why are the front numbers different side to side? Or is the chassis built twisted ???
To accommodate road crown, maybe?
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They why not the rear as well? Besides, if you can find a uniform track to run the car on, I could possibly understand that, but in the real world...
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I've just had the car looked at by Kwik Fit (yes, I know ::))
They used a Hunter Hawkeye......and want £75. Only thing is they say the camber is out at the front but the camber is not adjustable front or rear, so It has to stay wrong.
Camber can't be adjusted? Is this correct?
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Sniff...what can I smell?
Ron.
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So settings should be:
Ride Height
Front - 385mm +/- 12mm (measured centre of wheel to apex of wheel arch, all fluid full, full tank, no occupants/luggage, tyres inflated to normal pressure)
Rear - 384mm +/- 12mm (measured centre of wheel to apex of wheel arch, all fluid full, full tank, no occupants/luggage, tyres inflated to normal pressure)
Front
Camber Left -0.36 (+/-.25), Right -0.12 (+/-.25) Balance -.24 (+/-.25) (Balance = left-right)
Caster Left -6.53 (+/-.45), Right -6.20 (+/-.45) Balance -.33 (+/-.45) (Balance = left-right)
Toe-Total Toe 0.13 (+/-.12)
Rear
Camber Left -0.59 (+/-.25), Right -0.59 (+/-.25) Balance -.24 (+/-.25) (Balance = left-right)
Toe Left 0.5 (+/-.8 ), Right 0.5 (+/-.8 ) Total Toe - 0.1 (+/-.12)
Why are the front numbers different side to side? Or is the chassis built twisted ???
Why are the front numbers different side to side? Or is the chassis built twisted ???
To accommodate road crown, maybe?
You don't think it's to compensate for the driver's weight, seeing as the spec says to check with the car unloaded?
This would explain why it isn't different for the the back.
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I've just had the car looked at by Kwik Fit (yes, I know ::))
They used a Hunter Hawkeye......and want £75. Only thing is they say the camber is out at the front but the camber is not adjustable front or rear, so It has to stay wrong.
Camber can't be adjusted? Is this correct?
From Marks post earlier
"Its pretty bad but should be adjustable for half what the dealer want.....camber caster and toe can be adjusted."
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Which means drive away from quikshit quick and don't look over your shoulder :-X
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I've never forgiven Kwik-Fit for condemning my front discs as unserviceable due to their having rusty rims. No scoring and plenty of meat on the discs, but wanted an obscene price to change them.
When I had my 4-wheel alignment done, I sought a second opinion - "Perfectly ok sir, nothing to worry about" came the verdict.
You can lift my leg ONCE, more fool you: do it twice, more fool ME!
Ron.
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All the angles are adjustable, Jaguar tend to use cam bolts for this.
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All the angles are adjustable, Jaguar tend to use cam bolts for this.
So the front/rear camber is adjustable?......Kwik Fit says "computer says no".
They also say X250 and X260 have identical settings for wheel alignment. Not sure about that.
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All the angles are adjustable, Jaguar tend to use cam bolts for this.
So the front/rear camber is adjustable?......Kwik Fit says "computer says no".
They also say X250 and X260 have identical settings for wheel alignment. Not sure about that.
I don't have (easy) access to TOPix for your car to 100% confirm. You could either sign up yourself and pay the fee, or ask that nice Mr DTM reprobate to check for you....
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Pm your email address and I will send the relevant docs.
Camber, caster and toe are adjustable at the front and camber plus toe at the rear.
Settings are different on the X260 and the difference at the front is to compensate for the drivers weight as Nick pointed out
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Looking at those results i would imagine that front toe is fine. As stated earlier they probably just clamped the steering wheel a fraction off centre.we are only talking minutes of a degree and it wouldnt have to be clamped far off to show such a small difference. If the car drives straight on the crown of a straight road and the steering wheel is straight then i suspect that is what they have done. I bet if you went back again without altering anything that the readings wouldnt be the same.!.rear camber is out a bit thou ? . But if thats adjustable ?