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[Andy B]

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Knowing the incompitence of Merc/AMG designers, I fear Kevin Wood may be nearer the mark...

It's not used for starting       

Merc used (up to 2006?) a fly by wire braking system  SBC that was that good they stopped using it. From what I understand, the MB boffins designed it for so many squillion presses at which point it would fail safe and require you to drive to your local fiendish dealer for a new/recon'd pump. In the good old US of A, MB will still apparently replace it FOC, but here in Blighty, you need to dig deep for a replacement c£1500. It now seems that MB are using 'reconditioned' pumps that are also failing after a relatively short time. There are some places that will reset the counter on the pump for you for another squillion miles ......... but will it make it? Well Punk ..... do you feel lucky?

[TheBoy]

Well, I wouldn't spend good money on a Merc anyway, after hearing the stories from one of my bro's - he works for a company that has to fix as many of the Merc designer's balls-ups until the money runs out. Basic things, like "what part numbers from the bilstein catalogue for the suspension". He can't get them to grasp that they should set the specs and tender it out...

...his other one is that even base Mercs have lots of chassis electronics...  ...because the chassis is inherently that poor.


Sorry, no offence to Merc owners intended...

[Andy B]

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Sorry, no offence to Merc owners intended...

None taken ....... 

[Sir Tigger KC]

I kind of miss my old Merc. 

If it wasn't made of tin foil I might have kept it! 

[Kevin Wood]

Worse than I thought, then. One day the little battery fails and you go straight through a drystone wall.

[TheBoy]

Worse than I thought, then. One day the little battery fails and you go straight through a drystone wall.

Who needs a battery to fail to drive off the road

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

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Sorry, no offence to Merc owners intended...

None taken ....... 

Me neither.


I  bought the CLS because I like the style of it.......oh, and that 306 BHP V8 thingy at the front.

Having said that I don't think that it's any better screwed together than my MV6. The standard equipment list is also woeful.

However, for roughly 10% of the original price it's a nice way to get around, but I certainly wouldn't cough up the £60,000 plus that the first owner paid.

P.S.... Mercedes dealers are shite, and their labour rates criminal. They don't do well in the JD Power surveys that I've seen.

[TheBoy]

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Sorry, no offence to Merc owners intended...

None taken ....... 

Me neither.


I  bought the CLS because I like the style of it.......oh, and that 306 BHP V8 thingy at the front.

Having said that I don't think that it's any better screwed together than my MV6. The standard equipment list is also woeful.

However, for roughly 10% of the original price it's a nice way to get around, but I certainly wouldn't cough up the £60,000 plus that the first owner paid.

P.S.... Mercedes dealers are shite, and their labour rates criminal. They don't do well in the JD Power surveys that I've seen.

Absol-fraggin-lutely

[Andy B]

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Me neither.


I  bought the CLS because I like the style of it.......oh, and that 306 BHP V8 thingy at the front.

Having said that I don't think that it's any better screwed together than my MV6. The standard equipment list is also woeful.

However, for roughly 10% of the original price it's a nice way to get around, but I certainly wouldn't cough up the £60,000 plus that the first owner paid.

P.S.... Mercedes dealers are shite, and their labour rates criminal. They don't do well in the JD Power surveys that I've seen.

Agreed with all of above! Though the price of their parts isn't too bad ..... especially if you ask for a bit of discount  And the parts lads have done so in the past and priced matched ........  if you don't ask ..... 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

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Knowing the incompitence of Merc/AMG designers, I fear Kevin Wood may be nearer the mark...

It's not used for starting       

Merc used (up to 2006?) a fly by wire braking system  ]SBC that was that good they stopped using it. From what I understand, the MB boffins designed it for so many squillion presses at which point it would fail safe and require you to drive to your local fiendish dealer for a new/recon'd pump. In the good old US of A, MB will still apparently replace it FOC, but here in Blighty, you need to dig deep for a replacement c£1500. It now seems that MB are using 'reconditioned' pumps that are also failing after a relatively short time. There are some places that will reset the counter on the pump for you for another squillion miles ......... but will it make it? Well Punk ..... do you feel lucky?

According to the old invoices my car has been in for repair three times with SBC problems.

I don't like it......The pedal has a strange feel to it when you apply the brakes.

[Andy B]

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I don't like it......The pedal has a strange feel to it when you apply the brakes.

I've only driven one SBC equiped Merc & that was only a few miles around the block ....... didn't notice anything particularly different