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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #225 on: 26 August 2007, 20:03:37 »

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Unfortunately, the rather thing is jinxed.

Yesterday was obviously just a fluke.

If you can start the heap, it runs awful, lumpy, smokey, noisy.  No amount of pump adjustment dials it out today.

Both Omegatoy and I are entirely out of ideas now.

Time to call the local scrappy for collection methinks.


 Glad you got the old girl running, Omegatoy well on the ball. Have you tried blanking egr off or just cleaning it and check poppet valve seat. Wish i was nearer to pop round and listen and have a play :(
Are you still running 5 of 1 type of injector and then an odd 1 :-?
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #226 on: 26 August 2007, 20:05:49 »

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Unfortunately, the rather thing is jinxed.

Yesterday was obviously just a fluke.

If you can start the heap, it runs awful, lumpy, smokey, noisy.  No amount of pump adjustment dials it out today.

Both Omegatoy and I are entirely out of ideas now.

Time to call the local scrappy for collection methinks.
cant be a fluke....you had it running well, consistantly....thats no fluke...chin up, beer down the neck and try another day ;)
« Last Edit: 26 August 2007, 20:06:21 by Markiec »
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #227 on: 26 August 2007, 20:09:37 »

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Unfortunately, the rather thing is jinxed.

Yesterday was obviously just a fluke.

If you can start the heap, it runs awful, lumpy, smokey, noisy.  No amount of pump adjustment dials it out today.

Both Omegatoy and I are entirely out of ideas now.

Time to call the local scrappy for collection methinks.


 Glad you got the old girl running, Omegatoy well on the ball. Have you tried blanking egr off or just cleaning it and check poppet valve seat. Wish i was nearer to pop round and listen and have a play :(
Are you still running 5 of 1 type of injector and then an odd 1 :-?

Actually, its currently got all the air intake off, which disconnects the egr (diesels run pretty much the same with the intake on or off, and it has to be off for adjusting the pump (and yes, same with intake on).

What is a poppet valve seat?

Still running 5 newer type injectors (1 with piezo lead), and one older type - as I was yesterday when it was working.

Yes, I wish you were nearer as well, as I simply do not know what to try now  :'(
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #228 on: 26 August 2007, 20:11:07 »

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Unfortunately, the rather thing is jinxed.

Yesterday was obviously just a fluke.

If you can start the heap, it runs awful, lumpy, smokey, noisy.  No amount of pump adjustment dials it out today.

Both Omegatoy and I are entirely out of ideas now.

Time to call the local scrappy for collection methinks.
cant be a fluke....you had it running well, consistantly....thats no fluke...chin up, beer down the neck and try another day ;)
Simply do not know what to try next though. I am entirely out of ideas. Need this going for the weekend to go to Wales, as won't have the MV6 for then.
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #229 on: 26 August 2007, 21:00:26 »

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Unfortunately, the rather thing is jinxed.

Yesterday was obviously just a fluke.

If you can start the heap, it runs awful, lumpy, smokey, noisy.  No amount of pump adjustment dials it out today.

Both Omegatoy and I are entirely out of ideas now.

Time to call the local scrappy for collection methinks.
cant be a fluke....you had it running well, consistantly....thats no fluke...chin up, beer down the neck and try another day ;)
Simply do not know what to try next though. I am entirely out of ideas. Need this going for the weekend to go to Wales, as won't have the MV6 for then.

I would lend you the Elite, but i need the crows foot for the oil cooler pipes, which i don't have.

If this buyer does not purchase the Senny, you can borrow that  :)
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #230 on: 26 August 2007, 21:02:12 »

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Unfortunately, the rather thing is jinxed.

Yesterday was obviously just a fluke.

If you can start the heap, it runs awful, lumpy, smokey, noisy.  No amount of pump adjustment dials it out today.

Both Omegatoy and I are entirely out of ideas now.

Time to call the local scrappy for collection methinks.
cant be a fluke....you had it running well, consistantly....thats no fluke...chin up, beer down the neck and try another day ;)
Simply do not know what to try next though. I am entirely out of ideas. Need this going for the weekend to go to Wales, as won't have the MV6 for then.

I would lend you the Elite, but i need the crows foot for the oil cooler pipes, which i don't have.

If this buyer does not purchase the Senny, you can borrow that  :)
Very kind, but not required.  Hopefully I can still make Wales somehow.
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #231 on: 26 August 2007, 21:13:04 »

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Unfortunately, the rather thing is jinxed.

Yesterday was obviously just a fluke.

If you can start the heap, it runs awful, lumpy, smokey, noisy.  No amount of pump adjustment dials it out today.

Both Omegatoy and I are entirely out of ideas now.

Time to call the local scrappy for collection methinks.
cant be a fluke....you had it running well, consistantly....thats no fluke...chin up, beer down the neck and try another day ;)
Simply do not know what to try next though. I am entirely out of ideas. Need this going for the weekend to go to Wales, as won't have the MV6 for then.

I would lend you the Elite, but i need the crows foot for the oil cooler pipes, which i don't have.

If this buyer does not purchase the Senny, you can borrow that  :)
Very kind, but not required.  Hopefully I can still make Wales somehow.

I know of a Taxi that could pick you up  ;D ;)
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #232 on: 26 August 2007, 21:27:16 »

Got to admit after yesterday when it was running perfectly i thought we had put this one to bed, but having gone round there today and helped put the new inlet manifold gaskets on the boy turned the key and the heavy diesel knock was back!! :'( we checked the position of the pump and it was exactly where i had set it , so that hadnt moved but the symptoms are exactly the same as they were when we first started it!!! tried adjusting pump again but no matter where we set it now it still runs as if there is to much fuel delivery, am beginning to believe the boy is right and the car is jinxed!! the only thing i can think of now is the pump is knackered? biut the seller assures us the engine was fine when in his car,and indeed i had sen him driving around in it a few months before,
what i cant get my head round is the fact that there is once again to much fuel going into the chambers, have run out of ideas on this  one now, so somebody anybody give us a clue please!!!  
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #233 on: 26 August 2007, 21:39:15 »

try disconnecting the wired injector,when my sprinter vans wired injector failed it produced huge volumes of smoke, when unplugged the symptoms reversed ie no smoke but gutless as hell.
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #234 on: 26 August 2007, 21:41:14 »

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try disconnecting the wired injector,when my sprinter vans wired injector failed it produced huge volumes of smoke, when unplugged the symptoms reversed ie no smoke but gutless as hell.
I was toying with that, in case wire got damaged when we nipped it back up...


Further ideas welcomed - need to get it going tomorrow.
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #235 on: 26 August 2007, 21:42:23 »

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try disconnecting the wired injector,when my sprinter vans wired injector failed it produced huge volumes of smoke, when unplugged the symptoms reversed ie no smoke but gutless as hell.

we changed it :-[ mind you apart from the i.manifold gaskets change we did actually tighten th piezo lead injector!!! couldnt be that simple could it???

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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #236 on: 26 August 2007, 21:43:48 »

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try disconnecting the wired injector,when my sprinter vans wired injector failed it produced huge volumes of smoke, when unplugged the symptoms reversed ie no smoke but gutless as hell.
I was toying with that, in case wire got damaged when we nipped it back up...


Further ideas welcomed - need to get it going tomorrow.

almost cetain we didnt but unplug it anyway!!!! try it!!!!

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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #237 on: 26 August 2007, 21:45:12 »

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try disconnecting the wired injector,when my sprinter vans wired injector failed it produced huge volumes of smoke, when unplugged the symptoms reversed ie no smoke but gutless as hell.
I was toying with that, in case wire got damaged when we nipped it back up...


Further ideas welcomed - need to get it going tomorrow.

almost cetain we didnt but unplug it anyway!!!! try it!!!!
Yup, job for morning. Waaaayyy too pissed now....  :-[
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #238 on: 26 August 2007, 21:45:55 »

when it failed on me there was no warning, it ran perfectly one minute......then not the next, simply unplug the wires and see.
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
« Reply #239 on: 26 August 2007, 21:46:35 »

Sorry......know the basics...but the prob you have TB i dont know....but question? coz im lost on the thread....is the replacement lump on the orig ecu.....or have you changed it? for the one for the donor engine....coz how i see it...with the probs your having....either engine is fubared and seller is telling porkies.....or ecu is incorect  :-/
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