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[corky]

hi can anybody tell me if the rear spoiler on the estate is the same for all years or is it different on the facelift 

[Bent valve]

Its different on the facelift. The prefacelift has an intergrated brake light. Mini facelifts do not have an intergrated brake light and should fit the facelift.

[corky]

is that the only difference as the spoiler i have seen needs to be painted to match my car , could easily hide the brake light, are all the tailgates the same ?

[VXL V6]

Prefacelift Irmscher fits a facelift as that's what's on Mrs VXL V6's car. 

[corky]

thanks mate 

[mrgreen]

there are two numbers for irmscher rear spoilers one with one without a integrated light that's the difference pre post aint a factor

[Seth]

there are two numbers for irmscher rear spoilers one with one without a integrated light that's the difference pre post aint a factor

Here are the Irmscher part numbers:

With integrated brake light: i 4001 404
Without brake light: i 4001 405

I've fitted several, and find it much less hassle to bond 'em on to the tailgate using Sikaflex 255
Available here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sika-Flex-Sikaflex-255-adhesive-body-kit-windscreen-etc_W0QQitemZ350458331295QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=228954076814&rvr_id=228954076814&cguid=a2c54b4711d0a0aad3a1c881ffe47e54

[Olympia5776]

is that the only difference as the spoiler i have seen needs to be painted to match my car , could easily hide the brake light, are all the tailgates the same ?

Tailgates are the same the spoilers differ but are interchangeable between pre and post facelift ( and vica versa )
I have a PFL spoiler fitted to my FL .

[Bent valve]

is that the only difference as the spoiler i have seen needs to be painted to match my car , could easily hide the brake light, are all the tailgates the same ?

Tailgates are the same the spoilers differ but are interchangeable between pre and post facelift ( and vica versa )
I have a PFL spoiler fitted to my FL .

Have you got both brake lights wired in, I always thought they would look quite good with 2 high level brake lights

[VXL V6]

We have on ours. 

[corky]

thanx all for ur input have purchased spoiler, now to spray and fit 

[Olympia5776]

is that the only difference as the spoiler i have seen needs to be painted to match my car , could easily hide the brake light, are all the tailgates the same ?

Tailgates are the same the spoilers differ but are interchangeable between pre and post facelift ( and vica versa )
I have a PFL spoiler fitted to my FL .

Have you got both brake lights wired in, I always thought they would look quite good with 2 high level brake lights

No , I didn't bother .