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[terry paget]

Pic above of display installed in the Vectra estate.
Fair comment, Nick. When I was younger I would swing my left arm behind the driver's seat, look straight behind me, and with feet still on the pedals and right hand on the steering wheel, easily manouevre the car backwards. Head restraints and old bones now make this near impossible. Now I see women at Tesco's easing their cars effortlessly into the marked parking bays, using their door mirrors and reversing sensors. I applaud them.
Now the Vectra saloon is starting and running well, I am enjoying tinkering rather than sorting, as DG puts it. I need things to do in the lockdown. SWMBO suggests I could paint the spare room, but that sounds boring.

[Doctor Gollum]

We've 10 square meters of asbestos to remove if you fancy a little bit of edgy DIY... 

[TheBoy]

SWMBO suggests I could paint the spare room, but that sounds boring.

Damn right, Mr P, that sounds far too much like DIY

[ronnyd]

Pic above of display installed in the Vectra estate.
Fair comment, Nick. When I was younger I would swing my left arm behind the driver's seat, look straight behind me, and with feet still on the pedals and right hand on the steering wheel, easily manouevre the car backwards. Head restraints and old bones now make this near impossible. Now I see women at Tesco's easing their cars effortlessly into the marked parking bays, using their door mirrors and reversing sensors. I applaud them.
Now the Vectra saloon is starting and running well, I am enjoying tinkering rather than sorting, as DG puts it. I need things to do in the lockdown. SWMBO suggests I could paint the spare room, but that sounds boring.

When i was young and fit, i used swing the drivers door open and half hang out of the car to see behind me to reverse.  Happy days.

[STEMO]

I used to just inch back veeeeeery slowly until I felt resistance. 

[biggriffin]

Pic above of display installed in the Vectra estate.
Fair comment, Nick. When I was younger I would swing my left arm behind the driver's seat, look straight behind me, and with feet still on the pedals and right hand on the steering wheel, easily manouevre the car backwards. Head restraints and old bones now make this near impossible. Now I see women at Tesco's easing their cars effortlessly into the marked parking bays, using their door mirrors and reversing sensors. I applaud them.
Now the Vectra saloon is starting and running well, I am enjoying tinkering rather than sorting, as DG puts it. I need things to do in the lockdown. SWMBO suggests I could paint the spare room, but that sounds boring.

When i was young and fit, i used swing the drivers door open and half hang out of the car to see behind me to reverse.  Happy days.

 I use these, seem to work fine for me.
 

[ronnyd]

I had sensors on my now scrapped Desmond, until the idiot up the road left his handbrake off.    Thereafter, i used the secondary device that was also fitted. It was called a towbar. 

[Nick W]

Fair comment, Nick. When I was younger I would swing my left arm behind the driver's seat, look straight behind me, and with feet still on the pedals and right hand on the steering wheel, easily manouevre the car backwards. Head restraints and old bones now make this near impossible. Now I see women at Tesco's easing their cars effortlessly into the marked parking bays, using their door mirrors and reversing sensors. I applaud them.

32 years ago, my driving instructor insisted that all his pupils used the mirrors to reverse. It's easier, quicker and more comfortable to do this, and means you can reverse anything that has no view out the back - vans, trucks, fully loaded estates, Avengers etc. I would suggest about 75% of the work is done with the kerbside mirror, and most of the rest is checking that the front corners don't hit anything.


The technique Paul taught means you can reverse a car into a space 0.5m longer than the car, with a small forwards shunt to put the car in the middle of the space with the wheels straight. Works on anything

[dave the builder]

I always reverse into a space unless it's one i can drive forward out of .
 find it much easier to use the mirrors to reverse and position ,
because you don't need to worry about what the front bumper and wings are doing
Obviously you need to remember NOT to leave buckets by your rear bumper   
though this has not been a problem since i fitted bucket avoidance camera systems on the cars 

[Raeturbo]

Or your fathers tool bag in front and then accidentally running over them I only did it once

[TheBoy]

Had to put some lorry fuel in it on the way back from Guildford. Not had to do that in over 10 weeks

Also discovered that the BMW avoidance system was working well, when every X3 and X5 on the road was constantly aiming for me.  And talking of muppets, I followed a off-white Merc up the near empty motorway to see if he would get out of the outside lane.  I tried patience, I tried intimidation. I tried weaving around behind him. But I point blank refused to undertake him, so I followed him for 20 miles until my junction came...

[Doctor Gollum]

Move over two lanes and pass them safely and clearly. It's only illegal if the manoeuvre is aggressive or dangerous in nature and you are generally swerving around. Anything else is simply passing slower moving traffic in another lane.

Alternatively, we know someone with a stock of marked V70s to get the job done

[dave the builder]

Indeed ,very annoying people sitting at 68 in the Vauxhall lane 
I wonder if it's foreigners or just stupid people 

[TheBoy]

Move over two lanes and pass them safely and clearly. It's only illegal if the manoeuvre is aggressive or dangerous in nature and you are generally swerving around. Anything else is simply passing slower moving traffic in another lane.

Alternatively, we know someone with a stock of marked V70s to get the job done

An undertake would have been easy and safe. There was a principal at stake, and I was in works time, so no rush

[Doctor Gollum]

Indeed ,very annoying people sitting at 68 in the Vauxhall lane 
I wonder if it's foreigners or just stupid people 

Stupidity is a diversity trait. And universal... Sadly. 

Mere mention of the word Brackley causes random outbreaks apparently.