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[Seth]

It is finished in LMS maroon Seth, as it was liveried in 1938.

OK missus ... I stand corrected!

[The Red Baron]

It is finished in LMS maroon Seth, as it was liveried in 1938.

OK missus ... I stand corrected!

youve been told Byron. lol. 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Its a 108 DMU Lizzie,1959 vintage.

It had a very bent buffer plank and hence the replacement which has been a massive job (a first in preservation and potentially in history as the works just cut and shut them).

All alloy sides and chassis though with only the cabs being steel hence corrosion is not to bad and why not much to do before fitting

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Its a 108 DMU Lizzie,1959 vintage.

It had a very bent buffer plank and hence the replacement which has been a massive job (a first in preservation and potentially in history as the works just cut and shut them).

All alloy sides and chassis though with only the cabs being steel hence corrosion is not to bad and why not much to do before fitting

Thanks Mark!

I thought the draw bar opening was small.  That buffer bar would have been a task if badly bent, and I am sure the guys on the Mid-Hants had to straighten a front buffer that had taken a full shunt at Barry.  However, I do also remember them doing what you have described with a complete buffer bar fabricated.

[Marks DTM Calib]

The challenge was the removal of 84 rivets without using gas (due to the aluminium chassis) plus the tens of bolts, preserving the drag box etc.

Rivet removal was a hand drill and multiple drill bits

Then it was make a wooden template and mark plus broach the holes

[Lizzie_Zoom]

It is finished in LMS maroon Seth, as it was liveried in 1938.

OK missus ... I stand corrected!

  In fairness Seth Crimson Lake is not much different, and used on many LMS passenger engines such as the Princes's Crabs and Jubilee's. The pre-1923 Midland Railway also used both crimson lake and maroon, plus all shades of red! Stanier's Black 5's were always black of course so caused no confusion!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

The challenge was the removal of 84 rivets without using gas (due to the aluminium chassis) plus the tens of bolts, preserving the drag box etc.

Rivet removal was a hand drill and multiple drill bits

Then it was make a wooden template and mark plus broach the holes

Now that is a challenge and a half, especially as you say with aluminium involved. That does take skill and patience.

The beauty of working on the steam engines is of course you are generally hammering away at solid steel which relatively speaking is hard to break.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Also posted in a separate thread,

but worth it!

Maltese buses in 2003:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvLX8XA2DWY

Enjoy!

[Seth]

The very last 'lowbridge' double-decker ever built.

[Vamps]

Keep em coming Seth.................

[Seth]

Cheers Vamps ... bored big yin should be able to knowledgeably comment on this beauty ... 

[Sir Tigger KC]

How low is low then Seth?   

[Seth]

The last double-decker bought by the tiny Bedwas & Machen Urban District Council has thankfully been restored and now resides at the Barry Bus Museum.

No 6 (PAX 466F) was a regular performer on the marathon Newport - Caerphilly - Bargoed - Rhymney Bridge route, and like all B&M buses, was well cared-for and immaculately turned-out for service. It marked a change in purchasing policy by the council, who had previously been ardent AEC operators for many years. Not only was it the last lowbridge double-decker built - it was also their first new Leyland!
The livery is Oxford Blue with Ivory relief.



It's a Leyland 'Titan' PD3 with Massey Brothers 68-seat lowbridge body. Platform doors were fitted.


The big 9.8-litre O.600 engine and 4-speed synchromesh 'box would make light work of the Valleys terrain, with plenty of 'gargle and snarl' aural effects!

[Seth]

How low is low then Seth?   

Typically around 13' 6"

However, the term 'Lowbridge' doesn't actually refer to the overall height - it signifies the upper deck seating arrangement that's employed to achieve it with rows of four side-by-side seats and a sunken offside gangway:



Looking forwards with a step over the driving cab





Rearward view towards the staircase





And the consequential intrusion of the sunken gangway into the offside of the lower saloon

[bored bigyin54]

How low is low then Seth?   

Typically around 13' 6"

However, the term 'Lowbridge' doesn't actually refer to the overall height - it signifies the upper deck seating arrangement that's employed to achieve it with rows of four side-by-side seats and a sunken offside gangway:



Looking forwards with a step over the driving cab





Rearward view towards the staircase





And the consequential intrusion of the sunken gangway into the offside of the lower saloon

remember them when i worked on them . banged my head a few times