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Title: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: omegod on 29 December 2015, 21:02:50
Spotted this on another forum and thought worth sharing, Opel Rekford with a 3.8 V6, south African only but made in 92. I must say i'm rather taken with it !  Anyone come across them before ?

http://www.carmag.co.za/road_test/from-the-archives-opel-rekord-380i-gsi/
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: biggriffin on 29 December 2015, 22:22:38
You want to see some of the other cars gm released in SA but not Europe. :),
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 29 December 2015, 22:25:49
Now there's an idea... That 3.8 lump is readily available in supercharged form... :-\
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: omegod on 29 December 2015, 22:33:04
You want to see some of the other cars gm released in SA but not Europe. :),

Pray tell !
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: BazaJT on 30 December 2015, 18:04:34
I know they did a[early]Senator in 4L form,saw one at Billing years ago.Other than that I've seen examples of V8 Capri and V8 Sierra that were South African only?But the ones I saw had been imported into blighty.
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: Broomies Mate on 30 December 2015, 18:11:13
I know they did a[early]Senator in 4L form,saw one at Billing years ago.Other than that I've seen examples of V8 Capri and V8 Sierra that were South African only?But the ones I saw had been imported into blighty.

The [late] Senator was indeed available as 4.0 (as an Irmsher).  Very nice with 270 odd GeeGee's.

As for the Rekord, 170 BHP from that bloody great big lump.... No ta.
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: BazaJT on 30 December 2015, 18:28:23
The 4L Senator I saw a Billing was definitely an early car Series 1 or 1 1/2 with the chrome bumpers.Even remember it was Brown over Gold  :o Wasn't on ABS stand though,got a picture of it somewhere or other ::)
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 December 2015, 18:41:55
Now there's an idea... That 3.8 lump is readily available in supercharged form... :-\

It needs to be, too, because it's seriously asthmatic in NA form.
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 30 December 2015, 18:45:03
A V8 mk2 Granada was also available, there was one for sale on the bay a few years back.
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 December 2015, 18:48:47
Now there's an idea... That 3.8 lump is readily available in supercharged form... :-\

It needs to be, too, because it's seriously asthmatic in NA form.
Ignoring the obvious insanity comments, will that block bolt onto the Omega V6 manual box?
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 December 2015, 19:02:32
I know they did a[early]Senator in 4L form,saw one at Billing years ago.Other than that I've seen examples of V8 Capri and V8 Sierra that were South African only?But the ones I saw had been imported into blighty.
They also got the 3.0 V6 right upto the end of production... V8 was the 5.0 iirc :-\
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 30 December 2015, 19:58:08
I wonder why GM beefed up European models for SA when they could have just shipped in Holdens.  :-\ The Saffer's would have loved them!  :y  Still would come to think about it...  ::)
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 December 2015, 21:03:58
I wonder why GM beefed up European models for SA when they could have just shipped in Holdens.  :-\ The Saffer's would have loved them!  :y  Still would come to think about it...  ::)
Colonial politics ;)
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 31 December 2015, 00:26:21
I wonder why GM beefed up European models for SA when they could have just shipped in Holdens.  :-\ The Saffer's would have loved them!  :y  Still would come to think about it...  ::)
Colonial politics ;)

I thought that was an arms and Kit Kat embargo....  :-\  ::)
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 31 December 2015, 00:48:13
I wonder why GM beefed up European models for SA when they could have just shipped in Holdens.  :-\ The Saffer's would have loved them!  :y  Still would come to think about it...  ::)
Colonial politics ;)

I thought that was an arms and Kit Kat embargo....  :-\  ::)
I was actually thinking of the German influence :-\
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 31 December 2015, 10:54:03
I wonder why GM beefed up European models for SA when they could have just shipped in Holdens.  :-\ The Saffer's would have loved them!  :y  Still would come to think about it...  ::)
Colonial politics ;)

I thought that was an arms and Kit Kat embargo....  :-\  ::)
I was actually thinking of the German influence :-\

German influence in Sef Efrica?  You've lost me there Al...  :-\
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: STEMO on 31 December 2015, 12:38:18
I wonder why GM beefed up European models for SA when they could have just shipped in Holdens.  :-\ The Saffer's would have loved them!  :y  Still would come to think about it...  ::)
Colonial politics ;)

I thought that was an arms and Kit Kat embargo....  :-\  ::)
I was actually thinking of the German influence :-\

German influence in Sef Efrica?  You've lost me there Al...  :-\
No, Tig.....German influence here....to stop them coming here.....


That's what he means, but I don't believe those nice Germans would interfere in such a way.
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 31 December 2015, 18:15:40
I wonder why GM beefed up European models for SA when they could have just shipped in Holdens.  :-\ The Saffer's would have loved them!  :y  Still would come to think about it...  ::)
Colonial politics ;)

I thought that was an arms and Kit Kat embargo....  :-\  ::)
I was actually thinking of the German influence :-\

German influence in Sef Efrica?  You've lost me there Al...  :-\
Namibia...
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 January 2016, 00:03:02
I wonder why GM beefed up European models for SA when they could have just shipped in Holdens.  :-\ The Saffer's would have loved them!  :y  Still would come to think about it...  ::)
Colonial politics ;)

I thought that was an arms and Kit Kat embargo....  :-\  ::)
I was actually thinking of the German influence :-\

German influence in Sef Efrica?  You've lost me there Al...  :-\
Namibia...

Not much German influence there after 1915 when South Africa invaded what was then the German colony of South West Africa, although you still hear German spoken in places like Swakopmund and Luderitz.  ;)

I doubt the good burghers of Swakopmund and Luderitz have much influence in Russelshiem though.  ;D
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 01 January 2016, 00:14:52
Perhaps not, but Africa has always been European rather than Australian or North American in the grand scheme of commerce ;)
Title: Re: Opel Rekord 380GSI ?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 January 2016, 01:07:45
Very true, but that brings us full circle to my original wonderings as to why GM beefed up European models for South Africa rather than sell Holdens there as I'd say they are similar markets.  :-\

A quick wiki shows that GM were force to pull out of South Africa in 1986 by US anti apartheid legislation so your partially right when you said colonial politics affected GM operations there.  ;) 

It still dosn't satisfy my musings though....  :-\