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Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
« Reply #30 on: 20 May 2021, 21:58:45 »

But then we are back to actors only allowed to play the roles if they are like the person they portraying.

As an example, the madness of king George. By your reasoning, this could only be played by an actor who is barking mad. What next Wolverine needs to be actual wolf machine hybrid actor?
Nonsense. It's historically inaccurate for a black person to play Anne Boleyn, as it would be for a Chinese person to play Hitler. For a watching youngster, it would give a completely inaccurate portrayal.
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Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
« Reply #31 on: 20 May 2021, 22:19:02 »

Actors are called actors because they are capable of acting like other people.

You are also confusing history with a story. Do you think the history we know is how it happened? No, not for a second, history is only written by the winners and then it will be bias towards them. Is it a history programme? Is it a documentary? Or is it someone's interpretation of events?

To me, it doesn't affect the story unless you are getting hung up on the fact it's a black actoress and ignoring the story. Which if true, says more about you than it does the story or cast.
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Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
« Reply #32 on: 20 May 2021, 22:25:40 »

Actors are called actors because they are capable of acting like other people.

You are also confusing history with a story. Do you think the history we know is how it happened? No, not for a second, history is only written by the winners and then it will be bias towards them. Is it a history programme? Is it a documentary? Or is it someone's interpretation of events?

To me, it doesn't affect the story unless you are getting hung up on the fact it's a black actoress and ignoring the story. Which if true, says more about you than it does the story or cast.
WTF are you on about?  ;D How are Anne Boleyn or Henry 8th 'winners'.
So...history is bunkum, that's not how it happened at all. Lizzie.........you'd better throw all of your books away  ;D Jeez.
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Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
« Reply #33 on: 20 May 2021, 22:27:50 »

And I'm not getting 'hung up' on the fact that it's a black actress, just the fact that it's woke nonsense. Anne Boleyn wasn't black....you see?
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Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
« Reply #34 on: 20 May 2021, 22:28:52 »

Let me put it another way, not many dead people tell their story.

I didn't think I'd need to get the crayons out.
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« Reply #35 on: 20 May 2021, 22:30:22 »

Let me put it another way, not many dead people tell their story.

I didn't think I'd need to get the crayons out.
I think crayons are probably all you're allowed in there  ::)
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Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
« Reply #36 on: 20 May 2021, 22:30:47 »

I'm done.  ;D
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Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
« Reply #37 on: 20 May 2021, 22:34:17 »

The thing is, the wokeness annoys me too.

A black lady playing a white lady doesn't. Now if said lady only got the job because of her skin colour, then I agree with you, it's wrong, but if she gave the best audition and won the part fairly, then she deserves it.

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Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
« Reply #38 on: 21 May 2021, 00:17:08 »

Rubbish, Anne Boleyn was white, and as historical fact should be portrayed by a white actress. Anything other would be confusing to some people especially kids.
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Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
« Reply #39 on: 21 May 2021, 00:29:24 »

The thing is, the wokeness annoys me too.

A black lady playing a white lady doesn't. Now if said lady only got the job because of her skin colour, then I agree with you, it's wrong, but if she gave the best audition and won the part fairly, then she deserves it.
Surely if the portrayed character was, historically proven fact, white; then a non white actress could only have gotten the job because of her colour (aka 'positive discrimination') and the production company not wanting to be seen to be discriminating against anyone who didn't accurately represent the character being portrayed.

If it was down to talent, then why wasn't the part given to Idris Elba or Will Smith?
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Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
« Reply #40 on: 21 May 2021, 06:36:52 »

If a white actress was cast to play the lead role in a film about the life of a historical tribal queen in Africa, world war 3 would break out.
And therein lies the problem.
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Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
« Reply #41 on: 21 May 2021, 07:49:27 »

Taking the Anne Boleyn case to its logical conclusion, and given current gender fluidity, such parts can now be played by any colour, or gender. I have enough difficulty when they produce Shakespeare in modern dress.  ???
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Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
« Reply #42 on: 21 May 2021, 08:37:43 »

How about a black Winston Churchill or a Black Enoch Powell how would that be accepted ? Why stop there a Black Queen Elizabeth even, the idiots that pursue this utter nonsense could go on & on the world has gone totally mad. The other thing that really gets me pissed off is the " Mental health issues" bandwagon that is being spouted everyday with more & more celebrities jumping in with their advice/experiences my old Sergeant would have blown his top ( man up you bunch of pricks) was his catchphrase..😂
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Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
« Reply #43 on: 21 May 2021, 09:10:17 »

When as anything thats been on TV or films been "accurate" , makes me think of the Pete and Dud audition sketch----
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Re: Correct me if I am wrong?
« Reply #44 on: 21 May 2021, 10:16:29 »

Ahhhh...we're just old and the ( now ) previous owners of the world .
Everything changes and evolves and the values that we held high and adhered to have been cast aside and deemed wrong , inaccurate , unfair , racist , culturally offensive and divisive .
Social media has a great responsibility for this as it gives everyone a voice ,and when they gather in a rabid pack a LOUD voice, that has the ability to persuade ,or dissuade , governments , corporations and industries of policies to be employed.
I feel that the mantra now is "he who shouts loudest , gets ..."
We , and you know who I mean here , are being forced onto the back foot by a myriad of minorities who wish to have everything their way and will employ all persuasive tactics , ethical or otherwise  , to achieve their goal.
We'll be forced to see what they want us to see and not what is actually there , or has been .
Welcome to the brave new world my friends ....  ::)

PS , I really don't give a ufck anymore . As a well planned for and fully paid up member of yesterday I will just sit back , with a Gordons Sicilian lemon in hand , and smile at their folly.
Chill Bro.  ;D
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