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Re: Does Sweden have it right.
« Reply #75 on: 22 April 2020, 21:43:42 »
Their death rate is currently 45% of ours...

142/million population vs 267/million here :-X
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Re: Does Sweden have it right.
« Reply #76 on: 22 April 2020, 21:45:41 »
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Quote from: dave the builder on 22 April 2020, 21:01:33
though I still maintain we would be in a much better place if we had locked down/quarantined  all cases and people entering the uk back in the beginning of march instead of "just carry on going to work etc ,we'll all get herd immunity"  >:(
   

The purpose of the lockdown isn't to stop people getting it, it's to buy time to prepare the NHS for the inevitable onslaught once restrictions are lifted.  Herd immunity in the absence of a vaccine is the only answer, unpalatable as it seems to many.   ;)

Sweden actually seems to be doing OK, and don't seem to be doing much worse or better than other countries.  I read today that Swedish scientists reckon that they have achieved 60% herd immunity in Stockholm and that's without any kind of draconian measures adopted by many countries around the world that are destroying livelyhoods.   :)

I got that wrong.  :-[  It's 20% but they expect 60% in 'weeks'.  :)

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/no-lockdown-in-sweden-but-stockholm-could-see-herd-immunity-in-weeks.html?&qsearchterm=sweden
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Re: Does Sweden have it right.
« Reply #77 on: 22 April 2020, 21:46:42 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 April 2020, 21:43:42
Their death rate is currently 45% of ours...

142/million population vs 267/million here :-X

They are Vikings though!  :y   ;D
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Re: Does Sweden have it right.
« Reply #78 on: 22 April 2020, 21:48:56 »
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 22 April 2020, 21:46:42
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 April 2020, 21:43:42
Their death rate is currently 45% of ours...

142/million population vs 267/million here :-X

They are Vikings though!  :y   ;D
That's the US mortality ratio :-X

Sweden is 192/million, which is better than us, but significantly worse than the States  :-X
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Re: Does Sweden have it right.
« Reply #79 on: 22 April 2020, 21:53:09 »
As Dr Zachary Smith would say.........
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Re: Does Sweden have it right.
« Reply #80 on: 22 April 2020, 22:05:22 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 April 2020, 21:48:56
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 22 April 2020, 21:46:42
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 April 2020, 21:43:42
Their death rate is currently 45% of ours...

142/million population vs 267/million here :-X

They are Vikings though!  :y   ;D
That's the US mortality ratio :-X

Sweden is 192/million, which is better than us, but significantly worse than the States  :-X

Belgium is 540/million  :(

And little San Marino is 1179/million!  :D
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Re: Does Sweden have it right.
« Reply #81 on: 22 April 2020, 22:09:06 »
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 22 April 2020, 21:45:41
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 22 April 2020, 21:27:58

Quote from: dave the builder on 22 April 2020, 21:01:33
though I still maintain we would be in a much better place if we had locked down/quarantined  all cases and people entering the uk back in the beginning of march instead of "just carry on going to work etc ,we'll all get herd immunity"  >:(
   

The purpose of the lockdown isn't to stop people getting it, it's to buy time to prepare the NHS for the inevitable onslaught once restrictions are lifted.  Herd immunity in the absence of a vaccine is the only answer, unpalatable as it seems to many.   ;)

Sweden actually seems to be doing OK, and don't seem to be doing much worse or better than other countries.  I read today that Swedish scientists reckon that they have achieved 60% herd immunity in Stockholm and that's without any kind of draconian measures adopted by many countries around the world that are destroying livelyhoods.   :)

I got that wrong.  :-[  It's 20% but they expect 60% in 'weeks'.  :)

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/no-lockdown-in-sweden-but-stockholm-could-see-herd-immunity-in-weeks.html?&qsearchterm=sweden

I genuinely hope it works in Sweden
but i'm skeptical about long term second infections or mutations and what the coating on the lungs will do after multiple exposures

the world is a petri dish  of death right now
I do hope people playing science get it right
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Re: Does Sweden have it right.
« Reply #82 on: 22 April 2020, 22:09:57 »
GLWT :-X
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Re: Does Sweden have it right.
« Reply #83 on: 22 April 2020, 22:14:10 »
You pay your money.................
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Re: Does Sweden have it right.
« Reply #84 on: 22 April 2020, 22:18:52 »
I have to leave the bunker again tomorrow for supplies
I might need luck  :D ;D
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Re: Does Sweden have it right.
« Reply #85 on: 22 April 2020, 23:30:17 »
These old fashioned shoppe places have adapted to modern world.

You can order anything you heart (and stomach) desires on tinterweb and the pixies deliver it.

Saves you leaving the house  :D
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Re: Does Sweden have it right.
« Reply #86 on: 23 April 2020, 12:57:38 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 April 2020, 21:11:45
Millions of items are being made in the UK, often for free*, but the NHS seems to be consuming items at a ridiculous rate.

Once upon a time everything was washed and reused. Nowadays it must be being treated as single use... After all, there can't suddenly be millions of care staff requiring items they should be using anyways... :-\ thinking gloves and scrubs rather than masks, but even so.

*I appreciate the sentiment, but don't miss the opportunity to generate an income from a new business opportunity.

Indeed.  I was gobsmacked by a report on the BBC that quoted just one major hospital uses a total of 17,000 PPE items PER DAY across the wards and operating theatres!! In fact the quote also stated :

"Even in an area with relatively few Covid-19 infections, the daily use of PPE is pretty staggering: 39,500 surgical masks per day, 11,495 gloves, 1,501 gowns and 4,201 highly-protective FFP3 respirator masks, as well as aprons and eye protectors. That sums to a staggering 72,000 items a day in for one trust"   

Bloody hell, no wonder the supply cannot meet demand!! :o :o :o :o
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Re: Does Sweden have it right.
« Reply #87 on: 23 April 2020, 13:08:28 »
Quote from: Raeturbo on 22 April 2020, 21:53:09
As Dr Zachary Smith would say.........

Somebody is showing their age. :)
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Re: Does Sweden have it right.
« Reply #88 on: 23 April 2020, 13:08:55 »
yep, maybe someone should buy a washing machine
I have 2 , always good to have a spare ,just in case  ;D
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Re: Does Sweden have it right.
« Reply #89 on: 23 April 2020, 13:13:17 »
Stock piling domestic appliances? Whatever next...  :D
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