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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: raywilb on 05 January 2023, 21:40:11
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since having this french car I have always had problems putting post codes into the satnav. apparently its something to do with the french only using 4 digits & advising using longitude/. latitude co-ordinates. i believe some owners have installed other satnav systems on theirs so going to look down that route
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In this day and age?
If you have a smart phone use that and worry about something more productive :y
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Give me an up to date built in Sat Nav over a phone any day. But hey, if we were all the same it'd be a boring World.
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Give me an up to date built in Sat Nav over a phone any day. But hey, if we were all the same it'd be a boring World.
Yes, but it's a) French, b) relatively new, so retrofitting will be a complete nightmare and really expensive. And might not achieve anything.
Hell, a £20 Tom Tom off ebay would be more use from the sound of it... ;D
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Give me an up to date built in Sat Nav over a phone any day. But hey, if we were all the same it'd be a boring World.
Yes, but it's a) French, b) relatively new, so retrofitting will be a complete nightmare and really expensive. And might not achieve anything.
Hell, a £20 Tom Tom off ebay would be more use from the sound of it... ;D
Without the specifics of the vehicle, the installed unit and the software version it's impossible to know what might be possible. But yes, take your point about the vehicle being French so who knows!
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Does the unit support SmartPhone projection (Android Auto or Apple Car Play), if so then you can use your phones nav via the in car entertainment system
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Wife's Renault had the sat nav with only a four digit input, Harratts, in Wakefield, updated the software to take a full post code.
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Hell, a £20 Tom Tom off ebay would be more use from the sound of it... ;D
Apparently such shit is not good for my blood pressure.
Hence I (semi) happily pay the money to keep our built in ones up to date. £96 Shaguar rushed me up for the last one, grrrr.
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From memory jaguar use Tandy electronics from 1972 for their satnav.
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Hell, a £20 Tom Tom off ebay would be more use from the sound of it... ;D
I thought that the RuZZian air force pilots had bought all these to find their way around Ukraine? ??? ::)
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From memory jaguar use Tandy electronics from 1972 for their satnav.
I'd be tempted to update the maps in mine if :
a) The update software didn't just bomb out with an error every time I try to do it
b) It was capable of sending me down roads that don't have grass growing down the middle. Maybe mine has the mud-plugging Land Rover version installed by mistake?
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I have a phone holder stuck on the windscreen and google maps on my phone. Never let me down.
Traffic updates, accident warnings with re-routes, what more do you need?
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since having this french car I have always had problems putting post codes into the satnav. apparently its something to do with the french only using 4 digits & advising using longitude/. latitude co-ordinates. i believe some owners have installed other satnav systems on theirs so going to look down that route
i do have a decent Garmin which has free updates available that i have installed in the past tho I would rather be able to use the in car one,..when I first bought this motor i did go back to the dealers & asked for somebody to show me what I may be doing wrong & the guy sat next to me for quite a while . nor could he put s post code in.
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From memory jaguar use Tandy electronics from 1972 for their satnav.
I'd be tempted to update the maps in mine if :
a) The update software didn't just bomb out with an error every time I try to do it
b) It was capable of sending me down roads that don't have grass growing down the middle. Maybe mine has the mud-plugging Land Rover version installed by mistake?
;)
Not had any issues with hers, but hers is the poor mans version (DTM will know the exact designation) that you plug the SD into a computer. I'm guessing yours is the OTA update version?
As for routing decisions, hers is set to default I believe, and slightly favours major roads, and has never taken us a silly route, even if its not always the route I'd personally take.
Biggest gripe is the voice control for the Navigation part seems less comprehensive than I think it should be.
My XJ is the HDD gen2.1, which sadly the maps are no longer available for, and needed a bit (not much, there are only about 3 settings) of config to get decent route planning. My biggest gripe beyond the lack of maps now is the TMC settings aren't granular enough - the options are off, any alert, or very major delays.
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I have a phone holder stuck on the windscreen and google maps on my phone. Never let me down.
Traffic updates, accident warnings with re-routes, what more do you need?
Every iPhone, every Windows phone, and every Galaxy phone I've had has been beyond shite, as the compass doesn't work right when vertical, moreso in a high magnetic interference area like a metal car...
...and then when you get to where you will get weaker GPS locks - woods, built up areas, high Kp, covered roads etc - its royally fooked.
Its a complete last resort for me, behind the road atlas.
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I have a phone holder stuck on the windscreen and google maps on my phone. Never let me down.
Traffic updates, accident warnings with re-routes, what more do you need?
Every iPhone, every Windows phone, and every Galaxy phone I've had has been beyond shite, as the compass doesn't work right when vertical, moreso in a high magnetic interference area like a metal car...
...and then when you get to where you will get weaker GPS locks - woods, built up areas, high Kp, covered roads etc - its royally fooked.
Its a complete last resort for me, behind the road atlas.
Yes....but nothing works for you, even if it manages to make it to your front door ;D
I've never, ever had any sort of problem at all, even in the wilds of N Yorkshire, with google maps. :P
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even in the wilds of N Yorkshire, with google maps. :P
Thats the ideal location for portable satnavs - big skies, minimal corruption aside from that bloody great radar place, no crossroads etc ;)
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even in the wilds of N Yorkshire, with google maps. :P
Thats the ideal location for portable satnavs - big skies, minimal corruption aside from that bloody great radar place, no crossroads etc ;)
Try the Great Yorkshire Forest, with 60 metre high trees for miles and miles. Google maps found all the little walking tracks round there.
Before a journey, it asks you if you want to download the route. I don't bother, but it's there.
Some people just won't accept that tech won't work everywhere, all the time. I'm slightly more forgiving. Plus, I usually have a rough idea of where I'm going.
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since having this french car I have always had problems putting post codes into the satnav. apparently its something to do with the french only using 4 digits & advising using longitude/. latitude co-ordinates. i believe some owners have installed other satnav systems on theirs so going to look down that route
i do have a decent Garmin which has free updates available that i have installed in the past tho I would rather be able to use the in car one,..when I first bought this motor i did go back to the dealers & asked for somebody to show me what I may be doing wrong & the guy sat next to me for quite a while . nor could he put s post code in.
That was annoying in a 2005 Vauxhall. In a car produced in the last 5 years not being able to enter a full postcode, regardless of the country is totally unacceptable.
My car is 2011 and it will take a full post code for any country between the Canaries and the Russian Border. Tech doesn't have to be infuriating to use.
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Actually it's 2010, but that reinforces my point. :D
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even in the wilds of N Yorkshire, with google maps. :P
Thats the ideal location for portable satnavs - big skies, minimal corruption aside from that bloody great radar place, no crossroads etc ;)
Try the Great Yorkshire Forest, with 60 metre high trees for miles and miles. Google maps found all the little walking tracks round there.
Before a journey, it asks you if you want to download the route. I don't bother, but it's there.
Some people just won't accept that tech won't work everywhere, all the time. I'm slightly more forgiving. Plus, I usually have a rough idea of where I'm going.
Yes, that is the main thing people notice about you. You are very forgiving. :D ::) ::) ::) >:D
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even in the wilds of N Yorkshire, with google maps. :P
Thats the ideal location for portable satnavs - big skies, minimal corruption aside from that bloody great radar place, no crossroads etc ;)
Try the Great Yorkshire Forest, with 60 metre high trees for miles and miles. Google maps found all the little walking tracks round there.
Before a journey, it asks you if you want to download the route. I don't bother, but it's there.
Some people just won't accept that tech won't work everywhere, all the time. I'm slightly more forgiving. Plus, I usually have a rough idea of where I'm going.
Yes, that is the main thing people notice about you. You are very forgiving. :D ::) ::) ::) >:D
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Not had any issues with hers, but hers is the poor mans version (DTM will know the exact designation) that you plug the SD into a computer. I'm guessing yours is the OTA update version?
No, mine is the same, SD card that you update in a PC in theory.
Don't try and use it in Cornwall, is my advice. ;D
.. although I suppose it might be that the road designations are better with an up to date map.
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i have just updated my Garmin . on my laptop & using garmin express it estimated for a update of maps it would take 1hr 40mins but it actually took a lot less. my daughter who lives in Hampshire has recently moved to a new house that her husband had built for them. they did have a static caravan & 2 mobile caravans on the land at one time & when it was my daughters 50th they put a marquee on site for a big do. i managed ok to get to Bordon Hants before i put the postcode in my cars nav. I set off but all it did was send me in a circle, 3 times i ended up at a car park near to where I,d set off from. the predicament I was in the only phone number i had was my daughters but as it was a surprise do phoning her was not an option. Luckily a grandson spotted me & all turned out ok.
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Very rarely use my satnav don't go anywhere I've never been before..😂
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Very rarely use my satnav don't go anywhere I've never been before..😂
Crikey. How ultra boring.
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Whatsapp is big in Spain. We just send tradesmen our map location and they have no problem. Unlike folk visiting from UK who say “ just give us your postcode” little realising that unlike uk postcodes, here they cover everything about 20 mile radius of the posttown.
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I've used sat-nav across all 4 corners of this country, and various points in the foreign, the worst place I've found for sat-navs is that London shxthole, loss of GPS signal very common, worse unit was a Chinese thing off ebay, the best unit I've found with no issues has been the Tom Tom, bearing in mind it's the latest Professional model is regularly updated. Older units do struggle, when in a car just use Google maps works very well, I use it for last few miles if going to a new delivery,
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I rate Google Maps and always have it on if doing a long trip, even if I know where I'm going as it'll route you around hold ups, give you warning of speed traps/crashes etc and you know what time you'll get there. :y
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Not had any issues with hers, but hers is the poor mans version (DTM will know the exact designation) that you plug the SD into a computer. I'm guessing yours is the OTA update version?
No, mine is the same, SD card that you update in a PC in theory.
Don't try and use it in Cornwall, is my advice. ;D
.. although I suppose it might be that the road designations are better with an up to date map.
Is the SD OK? And the standard one supplied is quite small (but plenty big enough for UK and a few other countries at the same time). I haven't worked out yet how its locked to the car (presumably just an encrypted file with VIN etc).
I know you can copy the files to another SD, and that still works. I have shit load of 64GB cards, which easily allows all of Europe, so I copied my files to one of them, and then plugged that into the PC, and allowed it to download all European maps, and thats what we use.
I can post you one with our files on if you want a go at cracking how its locked to the car, but I have no idea what will happen if you get it wrong - presumably all Nav and all Jaguar Voice stuff will stop working until it sees a card that is locked to it.
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I rate Google Maps and always have it on if doing a long trip, even if I know where I'm going as it'll route you around hold ups, give you warning of speed traps/crashes etc and you know what time you'll get there. :y
I often put the Nav on on longer journeys for the same reason - detours and ETA :y
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Is the SD OK? And the standard one supplied is quite small (but plenty big enough for UK and a few other countries at the same time). I haven't worked out yet how its locked to the car (presumably just an encrypted file with VIN etc).
I know you can copy the files to another SD, and that still works. I have shit load of 64GB cards, which easily allows all of Europe, so I copied my files to one of them, and then plugged that into the PC, and allowed it to download all European maps, and thats what we use.
I can post you one with our files on if you want a go at cracking how its locked to the car, but I have no idea what will happen if you get it wrong - presumably all Nav and all Jaguar Voice stuff will stop working until it sees a card that is locked to it.
Yes, I copied everything to a larger card ages ago on Mr. DTM's advice as I think they wear the cards by using them as swap. ::) Copied card works fine in the car, but the upgrade software just barfs when I present either card to it. :(
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From memory jaguar use Tandy electronics from 1972 for their satnav.
I'd be tempted to update the maps in mine if :
a) The update software didn't just bomb out with an error every time I try to do it
b) It was capable of sending me down roads that don't have grass growing down the middle. Maybe mine has the mud-plugging Land Rover version installed by mistake?
;)
Not had any issues with hers, but hers is the poor mans version (DTM will know the exact designation) that you plug the SD into a computer. I'm guessing yours is the OTA update version?
As for routing decisions, hers is set to default I believe, and slightly favours major roads, and has never taken us a silly route, even if its not always the route I'd personally take.
Biggest gripe is the voice control for the Navigation part seems less comprehensive than I think it should be.
My XJ is the HDD gen2.1, which sadly the maps are no longer available for, and needed a bit (not much, there are only about 3 settings) of config to get decent route planning. My biggest gripe beyond the lack of maps now is the TMC settings aren't granular enough - the options are off, any alert, or very major delays.
Its the Touch system made by Harman, same setup was used by Lexus and Toyota in the high end cars (but the owners of these are to old to use Satnav)
The Bigger screen (no side buttons) is the Touch Pro which is a Bosch lump with quad core Intel processor, that has OTA from release 19.2 software (but not for maps
The full OTA is PIVI from LGE (spit.....)
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The full OTA is PIVI from LGE (spit.....)
I know you love Lucky Goldstar really....
Aren't you mob pushing the pivi on the current ads ;D
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The Bigger screen (no side buttons) is the Touch Pro which is a Bosch lump with quad core Intel processor, that has OTA from release 19.2 software (but not for maps
I know the XJ mob with the Touch Pro's are getting OTA map updates. Or claim to be.
I can't keep up with all the infotainment stuff as JLR keep rebranding it. I think the older system in mine is now also called InControl Touch <something>, but was never called InControl 6 or 7 years ago when it was still fitted to new cars. Shame no new map updates, seeing as I'd finally worked out how to update the maps without a VIN key.... ;D
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Is the SD OK? And the standard one supplied is quite small (but plenty big enough for UK and a few other countries at the same time). I haven't worked out yet how its locked to the car (presumably just an encrypted file with VIN etc).
I know you can copy the files to another SD, and that still works. I have shit load of 64GB cards, which easily allows all of Europe, so I copied my files to one of them, and then plugged that into the PC, and allowed it to download all European maps, and thats what we use.
I can post you one with our files on if you want a go at cracking how its locked to the car, but I have no idea what will happen if you get it wrong - presumably all Nav and all Jaguar Voice stuff will stop working until it sees a card that is locked to it.
Yes, I copied everything to a larger card ages ago on Mr. DTM's advice as I think they wear the cards by using them as swap. ::) Copied card works fine in the car, but the upgrade software just barfs when I present either card to it. :(
I wonder if the card reader is at fault then? Not sure if the original card is SDHC or SDXC (probably the former), but certainly the 64Gb ones I'm using will be SDXC. I know older SD readers struggle with various versions of the SD format.
(I have to own up, I didn't use Windows to do mine, I used a Mac (which is more of a sin than DTM buying LG stuff))
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The Bigger screen (no side buttons) is the Touch Pro which is a Bosch lump with quad core Intel processor, that has OTA from release 19.2 software (but not for maps
I know the XJ mob with the Touch Pro's are getting OTA map updates. Or claim to be.
I can't keep up with all the infotainment stuff as JLR keep rebranding it. I think the older system in mine is now also called InControl Touch <something>, but was never called InControl 6 or 7 years ago when it was still fitted to new cars. Shame no new map updates, seeing as I'd finally worked out how to update the maps without a VIN key.... ;D
They are not getting OTA on the Touch system for Maps, its not capable and neither is the Here Maps back end for this type, only software updates (hence how we rolled out Car play and Android Auto to them).
Will ask what map file type it uses (if anyone can remember) as they are pretty standard across many car types
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They are not getting OTA on the Touch system for Maps, its not capable and neither is the Here Maps back end for this type, only software updates (hence how we rolled out Car play and Android Auto to them).
Will ask what map file type it uses (if anyone can remember) as they are pretty standard across many car types
As I understand it, the update for Carplay/Auto started but then got pulled for unknown reasons, so most later X351 XJs don't have it.
So, to clarify, they have to unplug the SD from the car and into a computer for maps, same as I do on hers?
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They are not getting OTA on the Touch system for Maps, its not capable and neither is the Here Maps back end for this type, only software updates (hence how we rolled out Car play and Android Auto to them).
Will ask what map file type it uses (if anyone can remember) as they are pretty standard across many car types
As I understand it, the update for Carplay/Auto started but then got pulled for unknown reasons, so most later X351 XJs don't have it.
So, to clarify, they have to unplug the SD from the car and into a computer for maps, same as I do on hers?
No, you have to use a USB stick (larger than 32GB formatted with FAT32), the update tool then downloads a map update file to it. Plug it into the User Interface Panel (UIP) USB slot and it updates the MAP file whilst driving (MAP file is hosted on the internal flash of the Bosch unit). The USB memory stick can be removed once its complete.
Most of the SOTA updates need a manual push, and it can be dependent on TCU software level also plus, the very first Touch systems do not have the UIP which includes the Crapple interface chip (as Crapple are self-abusers and insist on a buit of thier own tech on board).
If you have any VINs ping them over and I can see if I can spot anything
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Or you can use maps on your phone ;D
Joking aside, how often does it require that doing to it?
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Or you can use maps on your phone ;D
Joking aside, how often does it require that doing to it?
New maps every month, upto the user if they update or not (some do, some don't) as in this case the updates are part of the annual fee
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Most of the SOTA updates need a manual push, and it can be dependent on TCU software level also plus, the very first Touch systems do not have the UIP which includes the Crapple interface chip (as Crapple are self-abusers and insist on a buit of thier own tech on board).
If you have any VINs ping them over and I can see if I can spot anything
I'm guessing her car can't have Carplay/Android auto, as its the basic one.
I'll see what the XJ owners are doing to update maps. Wouldn't put it past them to "think" they are getting updated maps, just because they have the subscription ;D
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Wouldn't put it past them to "think" they are getting updated maps, just because they have the subscription ;D
Getting on for 4 years ago when I bought my ML, Merc updated the COMAND on it to the current maps. They were still way out of date eg the upgraded junction north of Lancaster had been up & running for a good while but wasn't showing on COMAND and IIRC there was a by-pass around Bristol (?) that wasn't showing either. If it'd been my £140 to 'upgrade' it I'd have been p'd off
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Wouldn't put it past them to "think" they are getting updated maps, just because they have the subscription ;D
Getting on for 4 years ago when I bought my ML, Merc updated the COMAND on it to the current maps. They were still way out of date eg the upgraded junction north of Lancaster had been up & running for a good while but wasn't showing on COMAND and IIRC there was a by-pass around Bristol (?) that wasn't showing either. If it'd been my £140 to 'upgrade' it I'd have been p'd off
What version of NTG do you have? and what version are your current maps. There is a 'way' I'm up to date and never paid a penny. The update process is very easily fooled into installing the new maps.
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What version of NTG do you have?
Never sure what it is :-[
Looks like the one in this car https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115605439917?hash=item1aea9f05ad:g:fL8AAOSwRXxjdcoP&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoEdGgoubW6I%2FN2i6Hz0gPnxIFxbiAvLgqPshxGXvHCPNZ0QcMs5XWcfIbGlBTXZVE3fNdBZWPZES7aF1d0AOlNK%2FM5BHpXO77RTxL8HotOjZdXY0nh%2Bvb7JTOYYRIHl%2B6iZ%2F%2B4%2BsA9l%2FsQdQzqeclQ%2BVKN%2Bh4BcdISXRbJxntp7XWJ8EtsQ9bojmrPUNiX8jQ2olC70Rh%2Bjs5qH%2Bs2KzdQU%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6bL0q2zYQ
and what version are your current maps. There is a 'way' I'm up to date and never paid a penny. The update process is very easily fooled into installing the new maps.
I'd have to go & look .... it's piddling down! ;D
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looks extremely similar....but grab the versions at some point and Ill let you know what I know.
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That one is at least 3.0.
The Alabama Mumsybus (Oct 2009 build) is the 2.5 and the older single unit type with an SD slot above the screen. rather than the split screen/interface.
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looks extremely similar....but grab the versions at some point and Ill let you know what I know.
Thanks.
I was reminded when SWMBO came down that it was due in for a service today so I took it down & forgot all about sat-nav versions :-[ .... I'll have a look later when I collect it :y
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Never used a sat nav in my life. Now, where the fark am i? :D
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looks extremely similar....but grab the versions at some point and Ill let you know what I know.
2017/18 (V16.0) EUROPE :y
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looks extremely similar....but grab the versions at some point and Ill let you know what I know.
2017/18 (V16.0) EUROPE :y
Can you grab the hardware details too, looking for something like NTG 4.5 etc
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Can you grab the hardware details too, looking for something like NTG 4.5 etc
Where do I find that? :-[
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Some show on the menus, just discovered mine doesnt!
google found this doc, prob the easiest https://incartec.blob.core.windows.net/instructions/Mercedes%20NTG%20Head%20Unit%20Differences.pdf
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Some show on the menus, just discovered mine doesnt!
google found this doc, prob the easiest https://incartec.blob.core.windows.net/instructions/Mercedes%20NTG%20Head%20Unit%20Differences.pdf
Thanks for that Jim .... I'd looked almost everywhere for something like that.
Looks like I have the APS NTG 4.5 (2012-2015) :y
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In that case, same as mine....process is easy
Essentially you get a map update USB of your current map....But removing the map files
and a 2nd USB of the new map update.
You put in the first USB stick....It says this is the same as youve got, do you want to reinstall, you say yes and it immediately fails as theres no map on the stick.. so it says retry...
You now put the 2nd stick with the new files in, and off it goes happily carrying on without needing a PIN.
sometimes fails a couple of times while applying, but carrys on from where it left off until complete.
No guarantees obviously, but ive done it 3-4 times no problem.
Ill let you know where the files are to put on a USB stick (32 GB, formatted as fat32) if you want to have a go?
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In that case, same as mine....process is easy
Essentially you get a map update USB of your current map....But removing the map files
and a 2nd USB of the new map update.
You put in the first USB stick....It says this is the same as youve got, do you want to reinstall, you say yes and it immediately fails as theres no map on the stick.. so it says retry...
You now put the 2nd stick with the new files in, and off it goes happily carrying on without needing a PIN.
sometimes fails a couple of times while applying, but carrys on from where it left off until complete.
No guarantees obviously, but ive done it 3-4 times no problem.
Ill let you know where the files are to put on a USB stick (32 GB, formatted as fat32) if you want to have a go?
using the USB socket in the arm rest? :-\
There's a SD card slot in the front.
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Yes,
The hidden USB, that SD is for holding your settings, music etc iirc
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Yes,
The hidden USB, that SD is for holding your settings, music etc iirc
The SD card is where I keep my 'Wheels on the Bus' sing-along music! ;D
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In that case, same as mine....process is easy ...
I foresee a trip to Flintshire .... ::) ::)
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Does all of this mean that my AA handbook won't work any more . . .
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In that case, same as mine....process is easy ...
I foresee a trip to Flintshire .... ::) ::)
Yeah, give Jimbob some pain ;D
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Does all of this mean that my AA handbook won't work any more . . .
Both our cars always have a proper, paper road atlas ;D
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In that case, same as mine....process is easy ...
I foresee a trip to Flintshire .... ::) ::)
Yeah, give Jimbob some pain ;D
;D ;D
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One for DTM methinks.
Later x351's came with either an 8" Touch Pro or a 10" Touch Pro. Probably bad/confusing labelling on JLR's part, calling both variants Touch Pro. Anyway, Carplay/Auto was released for the 8" one (via SDD firmware updates presumably, as that unit doesn't have OTA?), but then made unavailable. I think it was update H251?
Is that correct?
And I'm guessing zero plans to fit Carplay/Auto to the paltry specced InControl in her batmobile. No matter how many times I ask ;D
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One for DTM methinks.
Later x351's came with either an 8" Touch Pro or a 10" Touch Pro. Probably bad/confusing labelling on JLR's part, calling both variants Touch Pro. Anyway, Carplay/Auto was released for the 8" one (via SDD firmware updates presumably, as that unit doesn't have OTA?), but then made unavailable. I think it was update H251?
Is that correct?
And I'm guessing zero plans to fit Carplay/Auto to the paltry specced InControl in her batmobile. No matter how many times I ask ;D
There was a Touch Pro for about half a model year with the 8 inch screen (it can be changed.......to the larger one), the screen was then made larger but it is the same infotainment system (Bosch hardware). It does have OTA (all Touch systems do) but needs to be ideally 19A or higher (18B is potenentially also capable)
The major issue was the fact that the car at that stage did not have a Carplay compliant chip (Again, can be changed) but, this can be changed with CCF tweaks.
As for the Touch system (Harman), no chance of Carplay on that unit as it does not have the memory or processing capability.
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As for the Touch system (Harman)
That's what Mrs TB has?
Mine has InControl Touch Plus, formerly called HDD gen2.1
Then there is InControl Touch
And InControl Touch Pro
Not sure its great marketing, but then I'm just the stoopid kid from the local comp...
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Thanks for the info, BTW :y
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Whats wrong with just having a wireless in the car ? :-\ Volume, tone and four preset buttons is plenty good enough. :D
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Whats wrong with just having a wireless in the car ? :-\ Volume, tone and four preset buttons is plenty good enough. :D
2 presets enough. Planet Rock and Radio 4.
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Radio 4 comes straight from the undemocratic socialist republic of broadcasting house. Its the work of the devil.
Planet rock GB news, and a bit of Classic FM if I need to relax rather than ram some fickin moronic dangerous tosser who has just tried to kill me. :)
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Radio 4 comes straight from the undemocratic socialist republic of broadcasting house. It's the work of the devil.
Yeah, but I'm easily engrossed by The Play on Four ;D
Can't be dealing with the talky bits.
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Mind you, be lost without non wireless tunes. I need my angry tunes for when I'm running late, and my calming tunes for when I remember the £550 I spent on rear tyres last month.
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Sounds like if you get rid of the angry tunes, you wouldnt need the calming tunes. ;D
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Sounds like if you get rid of the angry tunes, you wouldnt need the calming tunes. ;D
Or new tyres! :D
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Mind you, be lost without non wireless tunes. I need my angry tunes for when I'm running late, and my calming tunes for when I remember the £550 I spent on rear tyres last month.
You and me both on all counts!
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Sounds like if you get rid of the angry tunes, you wouldnt need the calming tunes. ;D
Variety is the spice of life ;D
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.....Volume, tone and four preset buttons is plenty good enough. :D
We have been using the out-laws Citroen C4 Spacetourer (used to be Picasso) ... there's hardly a proper button on the entire car. It just has a silly touch screen that does radio, sat-nav, phone, vehicle settings & something else I can't remember. It has the most uninspiring instrumentation ever.
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.....Volume, tone and four preset buttons is plenty good enough. :D
We have been using the out-laws Citroen C4 Spacetourer (used to be Picasso) ... there's hardly a proper button on the entire car. It just has a silly touch screen that does radio, sat-nav, phone, vehicle settings & something else I can't remember. It has the most uninspiring instrumentation ever.
Designed to make the equivalent DS model more interesting.
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.....Volume, tone and four preset buttons is plenty good enough. :D
We have been using the out-laws Citroen C4 Spacetourer (used to be Picasso) ... there's hardly a proper button on the entire car. It just has a silly touch screen that does radio, sat-nav, phone, vehicle settings & something else I can't remember. It has the most uninspiring instrumentation ever.
I'm curious.
With the upcoming changes to the highway code etc, would operating such a device become illegal?
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.....Volume, tone and four preset buttons is plenty good enough. :D
We have been using the out-laws Citroen C4 Spacetourer (used to be Picasso) ... there's hardly a proper button on the entire car. It just has a silly touch screen that does radio, sat-nav, phone, vehicle settings & something else I can't remember. It has the most uninspiring instrumentation ever.
I'm curious.
With the upcoming changes to the highway code etc, would operating such a device become illegal?
Operating a French sh1tbox should already be illegal. ;)
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In that case, same as mine....process is easy ...
I foresee a trip to Flintshire .... ::) ::)
Sorry missed that.....
Its easy, but takes a couple of hours...If you dont fancy it, happy to try it, BUT IF it goes wrong, I have no way to recover it.
That would likely be a indy / dealer job with their computer.
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In that case, same as mine....process is easy ...
I foresee a trip to Flintshire .... ::) ::)
Sorry missed that.....
Its easy, but takes a couple of hours...If you dont fancy it, happy to try it, BUT IF it goes wrong, I have no way to recover it.
That would likely be a indy / dealer job with their computer.
Thanks Jim but I'll probably leave it as it is. I tend to use WAZE as its more up to date :y
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No worries, If you ever fancy it, let me know.
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No worries, If you ever fancy it, let me know.
will do ... :y :y