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[STEMO]

Been looking at estates, but there's not many that take my fancy. I was think of a RAV4 diesel auto, they seem quite reasonable on price, if somewhat pedestrian to drive. Anyone have any experience of them on a day to day basis?

[dave the builder]

Estates seem thin on the ground these days and demand a premium ££

[Terbs]

If I could turn back time, I would have my Omega Estate back. Great car, oh how I miss the huge amount of space when the seats were down. Since I bought the Mazda 6 Saloon, and it has a massive boot area..... I keep telling swmbo, we should have gone for the Estate version 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Shouldnt go far wrong with any Toyota.

[Mr Skrunts]

I have been looking for an estate as well.

Tried for years to find a low mile 1 ownder 2003 Elite Estate - rocking horse poop would be earier to find.

I keep searching

[Rangie]

Toyota or Subaru Steve, can't go wrong with either I've had both & never had a problem with either,our current 2005 Forester has done 56,000 miles & has never failed an MOT & has never had a repair of any kind just routine servicing.

[STEMO]

Toyota or Subaru Steve, can't go wrong with either I've had both & never had a problem with either,our current 2005 Forester has done 56,000 miles & has never failed an MOT & has never had a repair of any kind just routine servicing.

I do around 17,000 miles a year, Mick, so that Forester would be on around 300,000 miles by now 

[Sir Tigger KC]

I can recommend the Volvo V70. 

It's a comfy old barge with acres of space with the back seats up or down and the D5 motor has plenty of grunt. 

If the V70 is too big for your needs then the V60 would be worth a look. 

[STEMO]

I can recommend the Volvo V70. 

It's a comfy old barge with acres of space with the back seats up or down and the D5 motor has plenty of grunt. 

If the V70 is too big for your needs then the V60 would be worth a look. 

The newer ones cost a fortune, which I really can't justify for a mobile dog kennel, and the older ones mostly have starship miles. I also notice the older ones have very little in the way of tech. My poxy 7 year old Astra has more...android auto, apple play, etc.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I can recommend the Volvo V70. 

It's a comfy old barge with acres of space with the back seats up or down and the D5 motor has plenty of grunt. 

If the V70 is too big for your needs then the V60 would be worth a look. 

The newer ones cost a fortune, which I really can't justify for a mobile dog kennel, and the older ones mostly have starship miles. I also notice the older ones have very little in the way of tech. My poxy 7 year old Astra has more...android auto, apple play, etc.

Yup fair enough. Might be worth considering something that is ULEZ/CAZ compliant which means Euro 6 if you're sticking with diesel or Euro 4 and above for petrol? 

If Labour get in next year Clean Air Zones will spread like a rash around the country. 

I think my next car will be compliant. 

[STEMO]

I can recommend the Volvo V70. 

It's a comfy old barge with acres of space with the back seats up or down and the D5 motor has plenty of grunt. 

If the V70 is too big for your needs then the V60 would be worth a look. 

The newer ones cost a fortune, which I really can't justify for a mobile dog kennel, and the older ones mostly have starship miles. I also notice the older ones have very little in the way of tech. My poxy 7 year old Astra has more...android auto, apple play, etc.

Yup fair enough. Might be worth considering something that is ULEZ/CAZ compliant which means Euro 6 if you're sticking with diesel or Euro 4 and above for petrol? 

If Labour get in next year Clean Air Zones will spread like a rash around the country. 

I think my next car will be compliant. 

Both of our cars are Euro 6 diesels, but I very much doubt I'd have to worry about that in Barnsley 

[STEMO]

RAV 4 is definitely looking favourite.

[STEMO]

Something like this:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310263365899?sort=relevance&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&include-delivery-option=on&make=Toyota&model=RAV4&postcode=S72%208DW&transmission=Automatic&fromsra

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Been looking at estates, but there's not many that take my fancy. I was think of a RAV4 diesel auto, they seem quite reasonable on price, if somewhat pedestrian to drive. Anyone have any experience of them on a day to day basis?

New car?

You've only owned the latest Astra for 5 minutes.

[STEMO]

Been looking at estates, but there's not many that take my fancy. I was think of a RAV4 diesel auto, they seem quite reasonable on price, if somewhat pedestrian to drive. Anyone have any experience of them on a day to day basis?

New car?

You've only owned the latest Astra for 5 minutes.

Wife's cast off, too small.

[Viral_Jim]

The newer ones cost a fortune, which I really can't justify for a mobile dog kennel, and the older ones mostly have starship miles. I also notice the older ones have very little in the way of tech. My poxy 7 year old Astra has more...android auto, apple play, etc.

My best mate has a Mk4 Mondeo estate and has done for a good number of years. Other than a clutch and DMF it's never needed anything much beyond service items and it's on 145k now.

In the time he's owned it he's abused it renovating three houses and hasn't been fastidious with the maintenance, so overall it seems like a tough old barge.

It's also big and comfy and can have plenty of toys if you venture up then trim levels.

[Sir Tigger KC]

The newer ones cost a fortune, which I really can't justify for a mobile dog kennel, and the older ones mostly have starship miles. I also notice the older ones have very little in the way of tech. My poxy 7 year old Astra has more...android auto, apple play, etc.

My best mate has a Mk4 Mondeo estate and has done for a good number of years. Other than a clutch and DMF it's never needed anything much beyond service items and it's on 145k now.

In the time he's owned it he's abused it renovating three houses and hasn't been fastidious with the maintenance, so overall it seems like a tough old barge.

It's also big and comfy and can have plenty of toys if you venture up then trim levels.

Yep good call.  This is the estate version of my Mondeo. Titanium X with the 2.2 Transit engine. 

Although this is probably more up Uncle STEMO's street. 

[ronnyd]

Christ, Ponko could have at least cleaned the mud off the tyre for that pic. 

[Mr Skrunts]

Any one got or driven the latest Mazda 6

Would be interested in peoples views.

[Rangie]

Stick with a Toyota Steve  the sensible choice.

[johnnydog]

My son has a 2019 VW Passat Business estate with the 150 TDi engine. Very economical, cheapish road tax (not quite as cheap as his 2.0 TDi Audi A3 he had for years previously, but still cheap). Now approach8ng 100k, it is extremely reliable, and has an absolutely massive rear load area - equally as big as my 3.2 Omega Estate. Loads of useful toys as well, rather than stuff you think would be good to have but never use - only useful for helping to sell it when the time comes.

[Doctor Gollum]

Unless the Astra is a hatch, you're not going to gain much rear space with a RAV4.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Unless the Astra is a hatch, you're not going to gain much rear space with a RAV4.

I've been a passenger in a Rav4. Capacious is not a word I would use to describe it.

Pretty compact/small from what I remember.

[Doctor Gollum]

Mum had an '03 one. It was horrible to drive an the boot was smaller than a Focus hatch.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Mum had an '03 one. It was horrible to drive an the boot was smaller than a Focus hatch.

Yes...I think STMO must be confused because of his age. Rav 4 are small.

[STEMO]

Unless the Astra is a hatch, you're not going to gain much rear space with a RAV4.

I know, but it is a hatch.

[STEMO]

Mum had an '03 one. It was horrible to drive an the boot was smaller than a Focus hatch.

580L v 375L, quite a bit bigger.

[STEMO]

Mum had an '03 one. It was horrible to drive an the boot was smaller than a Focus hatch.

Yes...I think STMO must be confused because of his age. Rav 4 are small.

You're getting the RAV4 mixed up with your brain 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Mum had an '03 one. It was horrible to drive an the boot was smaller than a Focus hatch.

Yes...I think STMO must be confused because of his age. Rav 4 are small.

You're getting the RAV4 mixed up with your brain 

Speaking of old people and confusion.... The Joe Biden effect

https://youtu.be/VFeNSB66PY0?feature=shared

[Doctor Gollum]

Unless the Astra is a hatch, you're not going to gain much rear space with a RAV4.

I know, but it is a hatch.

Well that will be why it's not big enough 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

If the old boy has any sense he'll invest in a Signum.

With the rear seats folded flat there is plenty of room for the whippet.

[ronnyd]

If the old boy has any sense he'll invest in a Signum.

With the rear seats folded flat there is plenty of room for the whippet.

Hope he's not that senile. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

If the old boy has any sense he'll invest in a Signum.

With the rear seats folded flat there is plenty of room for the whippet.

Hope he's not that senile. 

It would be a rare moment of clarity.

He buys cars are the same rate normal people buy milk and bread.

[Mister Rog]

I can recommend the Volvo V70. 

It's a comfy old barge with acres of space with the back seats up or down and the D5 motor has plenty of grunt. 

If the V70 is too big for your needs then the V60 would be worth a look. 

Even the 161hp D3 V70 has enough grunt for me and is pretty good on economy. But care needed there is also a 134hp D3 which probably has less ooomph.

[STEMO]

If the old boy has any sense he'll invest in a Signum.

With the rear seats folded flat there is plenty of room for the whippet.

Hope he's not that senile. 

It would be a rare moment of clarity.

He buys cars are the same rate normal people buy milk and bread.

You've had way more cars than me over the last ten years.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

If the old boy has any sense he'll invest in a Signum.

With the rear seats folded flat there is plenty of room for the whippet.

Hope he's not that senile. 

It would be a rare moment of clarity.

He buys cars are the same rate normal people buy milk and bread.

You've had way more cars than me over the last ten years.

Hmmm....since 2013.

I think I still had my last Omega in 2013. A 2.6 MV6

In 2015 I bought the mighty Signum.

In 2016 I bought my first Jaguar XFR.
In 2017 My second Jaguar XFR

In 2023 I bought a new BMW M240i  X-Drive.

So 5 in total, I think.

Frugal with cars, you see.

[TheBoy]

That shitty Marc?

[Sir Tigger KC]

That shitty Marc?

The banana shaped one? 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

That shitty Marc?

The banana shaped one? 

Oh yeah...I forgot that one, a 2006 Mercedes CLS 500. Double banana shape car.

The air suspension went tits up which cost a fortune to repair. Looked good but not a patch on my previous Jaaaaaaggggs.

[STEMO]

If the old boy has any sense he'll invest in a Signum.

With the rear seats folded flat there is plenty of room for the whippet.

Hope he's not that senile. 

It would be a rare moment of clarity.

He buys cars are the same rate normal people buy milk and bread.

You've had way more cars than me over the last ten years.

Hmmm....since 2013.

I think I still had my last Omega in 2013. A 2.6 MV6

In 2015 I bought the mighty Signum.

In 2016 I bought my first Jaguar XFR.
In 2017 My second Jaguar XFR

In 2023 I bought a new BMW M240i  X-Drive.

So 5 in total, I think.

Frugal with cars, you see.

I had my Daewoo in 2013, swapped it for the snot green Astra in 2017, swapped that for my Astra diesel estate in 2018, and inherited wife's Astra earlier this year.
So 4 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

If the old boy has any sense he'll invest in a Signum.

With the rear seats folded flat there is plenty of room for the whippet.

Hope he's not that senile. 

It would be a rare moment of clarity.

He buys cars are the same rate normal people buy milk and bread.

You've had way more cars than me over the last ten years.

Hmmm....since 2013.

I think I still had my last Omega in 2013. A 2.6 MV6

In 2015 I bought the mighty Signum.

In 2016 I bought my first Jaguar XFR.
In 2017 My second Jaguar XFR

In 2023 I bought a new BMW M240i  X-Drive.

So 5 in total, I think.

Frugal with cars, you see.

I had my Daewoo in 2013, swapped it for the snot green Astra in 2017, swapped that for my Astra diesel estate in 2018, and inherited wife's Astra earlier this year.
So 4 

What about the Vauxhall gangbang you purchased about a week and a half ago?

You've had more than 4 or 5 in the last decade.

[STEMO]

If the old boy has any sense he'll invest in a Signum.

With the rear seats folded flat there is plenty of room for the whippet.

Hope he's not that senile. 

It would be a rare moment of clarity.

He buys cars are the same rate normal people buy milk and bread.

You've had way more cars than me over the last ten years.

Hmmm....since 2013.

I think I still had my last Omega in 2013. A 2.6 MV6

In 2015 I bought the mighty Signum.

In 2016 I bought my first Jaguar XFR.
In 2017 My second Jaguar XFR

In 2023 I bought a new BMW M240i  X-Drive.

So 5 in total, I think.

Frugal with cars, you see.

I had my Daewoo in 2013, swapped it for the snot green Astra in 2017, swapped that for my Astra diesel estate in 2018, and inherited wife's Astra earlier this year.
So 4 

What about the Vauxhall gangbang you purchased about a week and a half ago?

You've had more than 4 or 5 in the last decade.

That's the wife's car, I don't make her drive a 23 year old corsa 

[Sir Tigger KC]

If the old boy has any sense he'll invest in a Signum.

With the rear seats folded flat there is plenty of room for the whippet.

Hope he's not that senile. 

It would be a rare moment of clarity.

He buys cars are the same rate normal people buy milk and bread.

You've had way more cars than me over the last ten years.

Hmmm....since 2013.

I think I still had my last Omega in 2013. A 2.6 MV6

In 2015 I bought the mighty Signum.

In 2016 I bought my first Jaguar XFR.
In 2017 My second Jaguar XFR

In 2023 I bought a new BMW M240i  X-Drive.

So 5 in total, I think.

Frugal with cars, you see.

I had my Daewoo in 2013, swapped it for the snot green Astra in 2017, swapped that for my Astra diesel estate in 2018, and inherited wife's Astra earlier this year.
So 4 

What about the Vauxhall gangbang you purchased about a week and a half ago?

You've had more than 4 or 5 in the last decade.

That's the wife's car, I don't make her drive a 23 year old corsa 

Poor Mrs Opti!   

[VXL V6]

I have been looking for an estate as well.

Tried for years to find a low mile 1 ownder 2003 Elite Estate - rocking horse poop would be earier to find.

I keep searching

You won't find one and if you do it'll need more welding, servicing and repairs to get it on the road than is viable. The newest Omega is 20 years old and i'm sorry to say, but it's time to look at other newer cars.
.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

As for the Daewoo.....you told us it was actually a Chevrolet.

[STEMO]

As for the Daewoo.....you told us it was actually a Chevrolet.

It was more like a Vauxhall

[Marks DTM Calib]

I think its time for STEMO to progress to the next level:

[Mr Skrunts]

Collectors items

..... well at least the white one is

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

A bloke on the Autoshite forum collects those things. Has a yard full of them. It takes all sorts I suppose. 
We used to call them cripple cars, but I dont think thats allowed these days. 

[Mr Skrunts]

A bloke on the Autoshite forum collects those things. Has a yard full of them. It takes all sorts I suppose. 
We used to call them cripple cars, but I dont think thats allowed these days. 

In my school days they were a lot more cruel than that.

sounded like spud chariots

[TheBoy]

When I was a nipper, Aylesbury was full of them, all called Spaz Mobiles. All in that blue shade as well.

[Rangie]

I think its time for STEMO to progress to the next level:

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Around 1970/71 when I lived in South London there was a workshop which supplied & serviced those carriages, it was owned by a disabled guy but his mode of transport was a huge silver Cadillac Eldorado always made me smile.

[TheBoy]

My dad had a leaf green example of the white car, only ours was the estate (or Safari in Citroen speak)

[Marks DTM Calib]

When I was a nipper, Aylesbury was full of them, all called Spaz Mobiles. All in that blue shade as well.

I would bring them back (well a modern version), Motability is a very abused privilege these days 

[Sir Tigger KC]

When I was a nipper, Aylesbury was full of them, all called Spaz Mobiles. All in that blue shade as well.

I would bring them back (well a modern version), Motability is a very abused privilege these days

True and you don't even need to have mobility issues these days, just issues...

[TheBoy]

When I was a nipper, Aylesbury was full of them, all called Spaz Mobiles. All in that blue shade as well.

I would bring them back (well a modern version), Motability is a very abused privilege these days

But with a reverse this time.  I always got collared walking to work by one of the Spaz Mobiles needing a push out of his driveway.

[Mr Skrunts]

When I was a nipper, Aylesbury was full of them, all called Spaz Mobiles. All in that blue shade as well.

I would bring them back (well a modern version), Motability is a very abused privilege these days 

Didnt Noel Edmonds try to that?

[Mr Skrunts]

Plus of course TG had an attempt at making an EV bit too big to be classed as a monily vehicle though. 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?sca_esv=579833118&sxsrf=AM9HkKnW6415t1Mupyv2WuMmoF20VtKWIw:1699293805642&q=top+gear+build+an+electric+car&tbm=vid&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjA1J3d-q-CAxU8ZEEAHZLFD8IQ0pQJegQIDBAB&biw=939&bih=450&dpr=2.73#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:59425cc2,vid:PCSNCs7bwCw,st:0

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

When I was a nipper, Aylesbury was full of them, all called Spaz Mobiles. All in that blue shade as well.

I would bring them back (well a modern version), Motability is a very abused privilege these days

But with a reverse this time.  I always got collared walking to work by one of the Spaz Mobiles needing a push out of his driveway.

Spaz Chariots when I was at school.

  The words "Did you see the mong driving that spaz chariot" would often form part of the sentence when us kids saw the little blue cars.

Kids can be so cruel.