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Title: That was dreadful !
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 17 September 2018, 20:20:59
Mate of mine bought a  V8 MGB GT a couple of years ago (1975 model) has spent to date around £28,000 on it including the purchase, car is totally immaculate & looks fantastic.On Saturday he dropped by to see us & took me for a spin which proved to me how much cars have improved over the years , the engine note was superb but in all honesty I felt very vunerable hurtling along in this "classic".
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 17 September 2018, 20:45:14
Similar story to the four pot version I drove month or so ago. Not a great car in the 70,s but absolutely woeful now.  :y
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Andy B on 17 September 2018, 20:53:51
.... but in all honesty I felt very vunerable hurtling along in this "classic".

A mate has, in the past, had both a Reliant Regal & a BMW Isetta ..... They both define 'vulnerable'  ??? ??? ???

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Viral_Jim on 17 September 2018, 22:29:47
I never felt that same vulnerability in the e-Type TBH. But then again, due to its shape, the doors are about 10" thick in places. Admittedly it's just 2 bits of bent tin, but its all psychology lol
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Raeturbo on 17 September 2018, 23:10:37
Best to just remember them. I took a TR6 out last week for a few miles, wish I never as I used to love them cars. Memories were much better.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Kevin Wood on 18 September 2018, 09:33:17
If you want a classic that's actually involving to drive you have to go Lotus and avoid anything mass produced by brummies.

Unfortunately, there are other consequences to doing so.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: henryd on 18 September 2018, 09:51:35
If you want a classic that's actually involving to drive you have to go Lotus and avoid anything mass produced by brummies.

Unfortunately, there are other consequences to doing so.

Hmmm,Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious ::)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 September 2018, 10:01:51
If you want a classic that's actually involving to drive you have to go Lotus and avoid anything mass produced by brummies.

Unfortunately, there are other consequences to doing so.

Hmmm,Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious ::)

The 1971 Elan Sprint was the last of the line so hopefully better. :y
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 September 2018, 10:03:07
Best to just remember them. I took a TR6 out last week for a few miles, wish I never as I used to love them cars. Memories were much better.

Don't say that ......I still want one. :)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: aaronjb on 18 September 2018, 10:12:18
If you want a classic that's actually involving to drive you have to go Lotus and avoid anything mass produced by brummies.

Unfortunately, there are other consequences to doing so.

What about a Trevor? Also not mass produced, also comes with a lot of problems (many similar to those of Lotus - like rusty chassis) ;D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 18 September 2018, 10:25:08
Best to just remember them. I took a TR6 out last week for a few miles, wish I never as I used to love them cars. Memories were much better.

Don't say that ......I still want one. :)

Why ?  ???  I had a drive in one about 10 years ago, which someone had spent a fortune on . It was race spec everything - engine, suspension, brakes etc....
It was a bloody horrendous contraption, and my Omega would leave it for dead on any type of road you can think off.
I suppose its an emotional thing, as I actually want an old Fiat 500.  ;D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 September 2018, 11:23:10
Yes old classic cars are definitely an emotional thing that defy all reason.  ::) 

I'd like either a classic Mini or a Series 3 Landy.  :y  Both awful to drive and own, but fun nonetheless.  ;D

Good investments as well!  :y
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: deviator on 18 September 2018, 11:27:48
My daily is a mk1 MX5, I'm used to feeling vulnerable. A lorry wheel/tyre is about the same height as my car.

Not really a classic in the same way as the cars mentioned above, but a pretty good compromise of retro fun with a nearly bullet proof engine, just a shame about the rust  ;D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 September 2018, 11:56:19
My daily is a mk1 MX5, I'm used to feeling vulnerable. A lorry wheel/tyre is about the same height as my car.

Not really a classic in the same way as the cars mentioned above, but a pretty good compromise of retro fun with a nearly bullet proof engine, just a shame about the rust  ;D

Bit girly though. ;)

Bit 'hairdresserish'. :)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: deviator on 18 September 2018, 12:26:56
My daily is a mk1 MX5, I'm used to feeling vulnerable. A lorry wheel/tyre is about the same height as my car.

Not really a classic in the same way as the cars mentioned above, but a pretty good compromise of retro fun with a nearly bullet proof engine, just a shame about the rust  ;D

Bit girly though. ;)

Bit 'hairdresserish'. :)

How original  ;)

Most comments like that come from someone who has never driven one but has just dismissed it as a hairdressers car. I also doubt many hairdressers use the car for Autosolos, Sprints and other entry level motorsports. I even had a go at 'losing control in formation' (drifting) only took 85PSI  :o in the rears to make it skiddy.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 September 2018, 12:31:18
My daily is a mk1 MX5, I'm used to feeling vulnerable. A lorry wheel/tyre is about the same height as my car.

Not really a classic in the same way as the cars mentioned above, but a pretty good compromise of retro fun with a nearly bullet proof engine, just a shame about the rust  ;D

Bit girly though. ;)

Bit 'hairdresserish'. :)

How original  ;)

Most comments like that come from someone who has never driven one but has just dismissed it as a hairdressers car. I also doubt many hairdressers use the car for Autosolos, Sprints and other entry level motorsports. I even had a go at 'losing control in formation' (drifting) only took 85PSI  :o in the rears to make it skiddy.

I admit I have never driven one.

My wife and a number of her female friends have though. ;)

They all love the MX5.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: STEMO on 18 September 2018, 12:48:37
The MX5 is one of the finest two seaters to have ever graced our shores. It is the best selling convertible sports car in history. There is just no arguing with its pedigree.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 September 2018, 12:57:03
The MX5 is one of the finest two seaters to have ever graced our shores. It is the best selling convertible sports car in history. There is just no arguing with its pedigree.

It's a modern day Triumph Spitfire.

Pretty, not quick, and generally but not exclusively appeals to ladies, and gentlemen of a certain sexual persuasion.

It's a shame it has this reputation because as you rightly say it's a great little car. :y
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: deviator on 18 September 2018, 13:05:12
Luckily for me I care little for what other people think.

I was once waiting at a red light in the MX5, roof down. A scruffy builders van pulls up in the lane next to me, the passenger says 'Owww you'll be a hairdresser then!' whilst turning to his mate seeking approval, I turned and said, 'You'll be the thick as f*** builder then'. The driver burst out laughing and passenger didn't know where to look.

If people think they can guess my profession or sexual orientation by the car I drive, then it says a lot more about them than it does about me.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: STEMO on 18 September 2018, 13:06:46
The MX5 is one of the finest two seaters to have ever graced our shores. It is the best selling convertible sports car in history. There is just no arguing with its pedigree.

It's a modern day Triumph Spitfire.

Pretty, not quick, and generally but not exclusively appeals to ladies, and gentlemen of a certain sexual persuasion.

It's a shame it has this reputation because as you rightly say it's a great little car. :y
I followed one along a lovely, quite twisty A road earlier this morning. It was one of the latest ones with a private plate reading 'ANN' at the end. 50mph limit, but commonly understood to be actually 70. ;D I sat behind it at 40mph until we reached a bit of straight then blasted past it, glancing across to see a 60ish year old ANN gripping the steering wheel and staring straight ahead.

I thought of Clarkson and his 'Shot in front of the family' remark.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Kevin Wood on 18 September 2018, 13:23:37
I was once waiting at a red light in the MX5...

Elite Pete was once sitting at the end of a runway in an MX5.. Waiting for a gaggle of 3.0 and 3.2 Omegas to catch up. ;D

I really don't care about the MX5s image. It is probably the most entertaining production car I've driven. Not the fastest, by a long way, but it's not remotely comparable with a Triumph Shitfire. ;)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 September 2018, 13:41:08
I was once waiting at a red light in the MX5...

Elite Pete was once sitting at the end of a runway in an MX5.. Waiting for a gaggle of 3.0 and 3.2 Omegas to catch up. ;D

I really don't care about the MX5s image. It is probably the most entertaining production car I've driven. Not the fastest, by a long way, but it's not remotely comparable with a Triumph Shitfire. ;)

Well technically it is light-years ahead of a Spitfire or MGB. Far superior.

I think the demographic is perhaps similar though. ;)

Way back in 'the mists of time' my friend used to drive a 1500 Spitfire that belonged to his mother. At the time I thought we looked quite cool.........looking back people probably thought we looked like a pair of poofs stinking of Denim aftershave.. :D ;D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 September 2018, 13:47:28
I was once waiting at a red light in the MX5...

Elite Pete was once sitting at the end of a runway in an MX5.. Waiting for a gaggle of 3.0 and 3.2 Omegas to catch up. ;D

I really don't care about the MX5s image. It is probably the most entertaining production car I've driven. Not the fastest, by a long way, but it's not remotely comparable with a Triumph Shitfire. ;)

This is a rumour like Roswell. 8) 8)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Kevin Wood on 18 September 2018, 14:44:48
I was once waiting at a red light in the MX5...

Elite Pete was once sitting at the end of a runway in an MX5.. Waiting for a gaggle of 3.0 and 3.2 Omegas to catch up. ;D

I really don't care about the MX5s image. It is probably the most entertaining production car I've driven. Not the fastest, by a long way, but it's not remotely comparable with a Triumph Shitfire. ;)

This is a rumour like Roswell. 8) 8)
There's video evidence somewhere, IIRC. ;D

.. but I know for a fact my 3.2 would be blown away my Mrs. KW's MX5... Up to about 125 MPH, at any rate. :-X
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: STEMO on 18 September 2018, 15:09:40
I was once waiting at a red light in the MX5...

Elite Pete was once sitting at the end of a runway in an MX5.. Waiting for a gaggle of 3.0 and 3.2 Omegas to catch up. ;D

I really don't care about the MX5s image. It is probably the most entertaining production car I've driven. Not the fastest, by a long way, but it's not remotely comparable with a Triumph Shitfire. ;)

This is a rumour like Roswell. 8) 8)
There's video evidence somewhere, IIRC. ;D

.. but I know for a fact my 3.2 would be blown away my Mrs. KW's MX5... Up to about 125 MPH, at any rate. :-X
Roller skate v two ton barge...who'd have thunk it?  ::)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: cam.in.head on 18 September 2018, 15:16:32
Its all definately a matter of personal taste.ive driven many a modern/ nearly new car and found them all very much of a muchness.my boss has had bmw,audi and mercs and to be honest they all felt harsh and uninspiring to be in.thry were all large saloons.
Same goes for smaller stuff like astras fiestas vws etc. All seem fine to do what they are designed to do but again no character.sure do a long journey in something modern and you may well get there with no aches and pains but would i feel as if id actually enjoyed the drive ?  Most likely not.

Now if i were to go to northumerland for example in a hc viva or mk1 cav i would thoroughly enjoy the journey .the cav especially having a near perfect driving position and handling and obviously the omega too for unrivalled comfort.

Please remeber thou that this is MY opinion. Most of my friends would think the entire opposite to me and thry are not wrong as such ,just thats what they prefer.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: STEMO on 18 September 2018, 15:20:58
Its all definately a matter of personal taste.ive driven many a modern/ nearly new car and found them all very much of a muchness.my boss has had bmw,audi and mercs and to be honest they all felt harsh and uninspiring to be in.thry were all large saloons.
Same goes for smaller stuff like astras fiestas vws etc. All seem fine to do what they are designed to do but again no character.sure do a long journey in something modern and you may well get there with no aches and pains but would i feel as if id actually enjoyed the drive ?  Most likely not.

Now if i were to go to northumerland for example in a hc viva or mk1 cav i would thoroughly enjoy the journey .the cav especially having a near perfect driving position and handling and obviously the omega too for unrivalled comfort.

Please remeber thou that this is MY opinion. Most of my friends would think the entire opposite to me and thry are not wrong as such ,just thats what they prefer.
You're just weird.  ;D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Andy B on 18 September 2018, 15:25:06
Not many would keep up on the thirties behind my Smart Roadster ..... all 700cc & 80 bhp. Sticks to the road like the proverbial to a blanket. I've upset various 'fast' cars when I've caught them up again at the next bend ..... obviously they leave me behind on the long straights.   :y
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: deviator on 18 September 2018, 15:34:49
To many people, a car is a tool. It's a means of transport. It takes a petrol head, someone with at least an interest to 'enjoy' a drive.

I do have plans to do a merger between the MX5 and the 3.2 v6 I have in the garage  ;) But I have bee thinking about this for years, actual activity is limited so far, but I think I've at least mentally worked out some of the bigger issues, well the bigger issues I can think of.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: STEMO on 18 September 2018, 15:41:26
To many people, a car is a tool. It's a means of transport. It takes a petrol head, someone with at least an interest to 'enjoy' a drive.

I do have plans to do a merger between the MX5 and the 3.2 v6 I have in the garage  ;) But I have bee thinking about this for years, actual activity is limited so far, but I think I've at least mentally worked out some of the bigger issues, well the bigger issues I can think of.
I actually enjoy driving my run of the mill astra diesel. Automatic, economic and plenty of power for my needs. Leather, heated seats in the winter, climate control, cruise, speed limiter, etc. It sounds quite rough, but so does a 5 litre yank.  ;D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 18 September 2018, 15:48:37
I know my Merc is  19 years old, but I don't think I would change it for anything newer & after that experience in the MGB all thoughts of getting an older classic have completely been banished from my mind, it meets all of my needs powerful ,comfortable , and for a V8 is not bad on fuel at all & cost me after selling my Omega £4,500 is totally immaculate plus makes me smile every time I drive it.😀


Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Andy B on 18 September 2018, 17:43:22
Not many would keep up on the thirties behind my Smart Roadster ..... all 700cc & 80 bhp. Sticks to the road like the proverbial to a blanket. I've upset various 'fast' cars when I've caught them up again at the next bend ..... obviously they leave me behind on the long straights.   :y

twisties ...... auto correct on my phone  ???
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: TheBoy on 18 September 2018, 18:16:48
MX5 is a hoot to drive, and quite nice in a tail out scenario.  And its all low speed fun as well :y.

It lacks power (big time), and obviously has an image problem, but that doesn't make it boring.


Not tried a new one, but suspect the weight has ballooned and the power sapped, which would be a crying shame.  Esp as all the old ones have rusted away.

Early MR2s are almost as much fun
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: VXL V6 on 18 September 2018, 21:34:51
The first two MX5's (pop up headlights and the facelifted one) are great little cars
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: deviator on 19 September 2018, 08:31:35
MX5 is a hoot to drive, and quite nice in a tail out scenario.  And its all low speed fun as well :y.

It lacks power (big time), and obviously has an image problem, but that doesn't make it boring.


Not tried a new one, but suspect the weight has ballooned and the power sapped, which would be a crying shame.  Esp as all the old ones have rusted away.

Early MR2s are almost as much fun

I've not driven a mk4 in anger yet, but with regards to the mk3 2.0. They are slightly heavier, only slightly, but the standard power has been increased. It's very noticable. They still handle amazingly, especially the one I drove as I'd done Bilstein shocks, Einbach springs and full Powerflex kit to it. Granted, it is far too 'jiggly' for me and finds bumps in an otherwise smooth looking road. The visability in the mk3 in reduced, but this is standard for any newer car pretty much. The build quality has vastly inproved too. No longer do you get that noisy from the plastics in the interior.

For me it's a great car with pretty solid improvements in all areas, however, for the reason it is so good, it's bad. What I mean by that is that the imperfections/differences in the mk1 make the car have more of a personality.

With regards the power of the older ones. See my above comment Z32SE (Signum) is going in one of my Mk1's. So many people turbo these. The power increase is good, but the internals don't like it. Everyone I have spoken to about turbo/sc a mk1 says, 'don't daily it', it's too tempremental. I don't want to spend my time chasing the next weakest link and I love the torgue the v6 gives. The reason I'm going with the VX V6 instead of say the Jag one (as seen in the commercially available v6 conversion kit) is because I know these engines, so I have the tools and experience.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: aaronjb on 19 September 2018, 09:02:04
Mk4 MX5, at least in 2.0 guise, feels like it is back to the Mk1 - feels lighter than the Mk3 (I've not tried one with the big foldy hard roof, that might feel heavier) and was a lot of fun to drive.. felt like it was lacking about 50hp (the Mazda rep didn't appreciate me saying that on their launch experience day ;D), but so did the Mk1.

MR2 Roadster is another great little car that has the hairdresser image - less forgiving to drive with the weight hanging over the arse end, and much like the MX5 feels like it's lacking 50hp, but nothing that can't be sorted by strapping a snail on to it. I still miss that car sometimes..
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 September 2018, 10:35:43
I wasn't so keen on the Mk3 when we first got it, preferring the Mk2, but it has grown on me.

If you think the TC on the Omega is intrusive, the Mk3 is something to behold. It gives me slaps on the wrist all the time when I'm not even trying to misbehave. Just as well there's an off button. ;D

The Mk3, in 2.0 form, at least, has a very welcome increase in grunt. In fact, the engine is so much better in every way. Much more refined, a much nicer noise, much more willing to rev and bearable on long motorway runs.

Yes, the chassis could handle a bit more grunt, but having to keep it on the boil, and being able to wring every last BHP out of it without the chassis becoming unstuck is part of the appeal for me.

Must blag a drive in a Mk4 some time, although it would be in 124 Spider form for me, as I find the Mazda version a complete minger and the 124 is  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Viral_Jim on 19 September 2018, 10:43:32
With regards the power of the older ones. See my above comment Z32SE (Signum) is going in one of my Mk1's. So many people turbo these. The power increase is good, but the internals don't like it. Everyone I have spoken to about turbo/sc a mk1 says, 'don't daily it', it's too tempremental. I don't want to spend my time chasing the next weakest link and I love the torgue the v6 gives. The reason I'm going with the VX V6 instead of say the Jag one (as seen in the commercially available v6 conversion kit) is because I know these engines, so I have the tools and experience.

There's a kit available from Rocketeer that is designed to get the 3.0V6 from the jaguar X & S-types into the MX-5 - really nice product but leaves you with a car that you couldn't rell on without taking a massive hit on.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: deviator on 19 September 2018, 10:52:37
With regards the power of the older ones. See my above comment Z32SE (Signum) is going in one of my Mk1's. So many people turbo these. The power increase is good, but the internals don't like it. Everyone I have spoken to about turbo/sc a mk1 says, 'don't daily it', it's too tempremental. I don't want to spend my time chasing the next weakest link and I love the torgue the v6 gives. The reason I'm going with the VX V6 instead of say the Jag one (as seen in the commercially available v6 conversion kit) is because I know these engines, so I have the tools and experience.

There's a kit available from Rocketeer that is designed to get the 3.0V6 from the jaguar X & S-types into the MX-5 - really nice product but leaves you with a car that you couldn't rell on without taking a massive hit on.

I'm aware of the kits, but £6-7k for the kit, plus the MX5, plus Jag doner car makes this really expensive. At best, it would be about £8k, I could buy a lot of car for that money. The idea behind this is I've never done a proper engine conversion and as I've just passed a big birthday, this is my reward, I'm looking forward to the puzzles and learning to weld. Luckily I've got a great support network of forums (such as this one) and mates who can weld and teach me.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 September 2018, 10:52:49
I often wondered if the V6 from the MX3 could be persuaded to fit...
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Mr Gav on 19 September 2018, 11:15:33
I would also wonder if adding a bigger lump to the MX5 would spoil it`s handling a bit as you will be adding a few Kg`s to the front of the car.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: deviator on 19 September 2018, 11:27:05
I would also wonder if adding a bigger lump to the MX5 would spoil it`s handling a bit as you will be adding a few Kg`s to the front of the car.

There is not much difference in weight as the MX5 engine is heavy to start with.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Viral_Jim on 19 September 2018, 11:33:05
I would also wonder if adding a bigger lump to the MX5 would spoil it`s handling a bit as you will be adding a few Kg`s to the front of the car.

There is not much difference in weight as the MX5 engine is heavy to start with.

According to the internets, the 1.6 is 120kg including most ancilliaries, flywheel etc. Due to the all ali construction, the AJ-V6 is 105kg without the anciliaries but including flywheel. So basically very little in it, bit more water in the rad etc but probably less than 10kgs in it overall. Plus I'd wager the centre of gravity on the v6 is lower - its a very low profile engine.

I'd guess the 3.2 weighs a bit more, but probably not a huge amount in it.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Mr Gav on 19 September 2018, 11:36:40
Sounds like it`s not a bad idea then, I was assuming that the V6 would be a fair bit heavier.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Viral_Jim on 19 September 2018, 11:52:30
Just been on the rocketeer website. The full kit is an eyewatering £6500.  :o

But, the "expert kit" of a custom sub-frame, flywheel and adapter plate plus ali sump doesn't look bad at £1200. TBH I could forgo the carbon fibre inlet manifolds and the extra 10-20bhp over the jag's standard 220 ish.

I suspect in an MX5, 220bhp is probably just about enough  :y
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 19 September 2018, 12:16:03
Mat Watson from Carwow owns an early  MX5 with a supercharger. I believe he said it made 220 BHP.

There was a video drag race between it, the latest M3, and a couple of other cars. Can't recall how it went.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 19 September 2018, 12:25:36
My mistake....not an M3 in sight.

The little MX5 does well though. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zj5gY9RXnU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zj5gY9RXnU)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 September 2018, 12:39:34
I've always fancied a rotary engined MX-5 myself. I reckon that'd be great fun.  8) (In-between tip seal changes, natch)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 19 September 2018, 12:47:30
I've always fancied a rotary engined MX-5 myself. I reckon that'd be great fun.  8) (In-between tip seal changes, natch)

My wife briefly owned an RX8 40th anniversary model (2008)  but found it too quirky for regular use. It handled well on smooth surfaces but on bumpy roads it was all over the place.

Strange engine that seemed devoid of all torque, although with a claimed 230 BHP it was quite nippy when wound up........13 MPG. :)

Never flooded it though. :y

Man who bought it came all the way from the tip of Scotland. He paid for a compression test which came out at seven point something.

Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Mister Rog on 19 September 2018, 16:23:18
MX5 is a hoot to drive, and quite nice in a tail out scenario.  And its all low speed fun as well :y.

It lacks power (big time), and obviously has an image problem, but that doesn't make it boring.


Not tried a new one, but suspect the weight has ballooned and the power sapped, which would be a crying shame.  Esp as all the old ones have rusted away.

Early MR2s are almost as much fun

Not long ago I mentioned to my local mechanic that I quite fancied an MX5.

"Ever sat in one" ? he asked. I hadn't. He had one in for repairs. I needed a shoehorn and grease to get in. So, that was that

I now have an irrational urge for a Crossfire. Quite cheap these days. Ugly b****rds, but so what  ::)


Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: STEMO on 19 September 2018, 16:27:16
MX5 is a hoot to drive, and quite nice in a tail out scenario.  And its all low speed fun as well :y.

It lacks power (big time), and obviously has an image problem, but that doesn't make it boring.


Not tried a new one, but suspect the weight has ballooned and the power sapped, which would be a crying shame.  Esp as all the old ones have rusted away.

Early MR2s are almost as much fun

Not long ago I mentioned to my local mechanic that I quite fancied an MX5.

"Ever sat in one" ? he asked. I hadn't. He had one in for repairs. I needed a shoehorn and grease to get in. So, that was that

I now have an irrational urge for a Crossfire. Quite cheap these days. Ugly b****rds, but so what  ::)
It will pass, Rog. Let's face it, you'd look a tool in it, wouldn't you?  ;D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Mister Rog on 19 September 2018, 16:45:56
MX5 is a hoot to drive, and quite nice in a tail out scenario.  And its all low speed fun as well :y.

It lacks power (big time), and obviously has an image problem, but that doesn't make it boring.


Not tried a new one, but suspect the weight has ballooned and the power sapped, which would be a crying shame.  Esp as all the old ones have rusted away.

Early MR2s are almost as much fun

Not long ago I mentioned to my local mechanic that I quite fancied an MX5.

"Ever sat in one" ? he asked. I hadn't. He had one in for repairs. I needed a shoehorn and grease to get in. So, that was that

I now have an irrational urge for a Crossfire. Quite cheap these days. Ugly b****rds, but so what  ::)
It will pass, Rog. Let's face it, you'd look a tool in it, wouldn't you?  ;D

Absolutely. I did consider a McLaren, but I probably wouldn't fit in that either   ;D

However, just remembered that we inherited a Toyota iQ. Possibly one of the smallest cars ever, and I can sit in it no problem. Bugger !
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Nick W on 19 September 2018, 17:18:55
The bloke I bought my 3.0l Omega engine and manual box from was intending to put it in an MX5, which seems like a good idea to me. Or it would, if turbos and supercharger conversions weren't so easy. And the MX5 is the car that the wankel engine should been fitted to, not the RX8.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 19 September 2018, 17:45:55
MX5 is a hoot to drive, and quite nice in a tail out scenario.  And its all low speed fun as well :y.

It lacks power (big time), and obviously has an image problem, but that doesn't make it boring.


Not tried a new one, but suspect the weight has ballooned and the power sapped, which would be a crying shame.  Esp as all the old ones have rusted away.

Early MR2s are almost as much fun

Not long ago I mentioned to my local mechanic that I quite fancied an MX5.

"Ever sat in one" ? he asked. I hadn't. He had one in for repairs. I needed a shoehorn and grease to get in. So, that was that

I now have an irrational urge for a Crossfire. Quite cheap these days. Ugly b****rds, but so what  ::)

Yes.....you've made me remember that I had a sit in one at a Mazda dealer. Cramped is an understatement.
 
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 19 September 2018, 17:47:32
MX5 is a hoot to drive, and quite nice in a tail out scenario.  And its all low speed fun as well :y.

It lacks power (big time), and obviously has an image problem, but that doesn't make it boring.


Not tried a new one, but suspect the weight has ballooned and the power sapped, which would be a crying shame.  Esp as all the old ones have rusted away.

Early MR2s are almost as much fun

Not long ago I mentioned to my local mechanic that I quite fancied an MX5.

"Ever sat in one" ? he asked. I hadn't. He had one in for repairs. I needed a shoehorn and grease to get in. So, that was that

I now have an irrational urge for a Crossfire. Quite cheap these days. Ugly b****rds, but so what  ::)

Resembles a dog taking a dump in side profile. :)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: henryd on 19 September 2018, 18:54:05
MX5 is a hoot to drive, and quite nice in a tail out scenario.  And its all low speed fun as well :y.

It lacks power (big time), and obviously has an image problem, but that doesn't make it boring.


Not tried a new one, but suspect the weight has ballooned and the power sapped, which would be a crying shame.  Esp as all the old ones have rusted away.

Early MR2s are almost as much fun

Not long ago I mentioned to my local mechanic that I quite fancied an MX5.

"Ever sat in one" ? he asked. I hadn't. He had one in for repairs. I needed a shoehorn and grease to get in. So, that was that

I now have an irrational urge for a Crossfire. Quite cheap these days. Ugly b****rds, but so what  ::)

Resembles a dog taking a dump in side profile. :)

Coupe not pretty but convertible much better looking :y
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: STEMO on 19 September 2018, 19:46:06
MX5 is a hoot to drive, and quite nice in a tail out scenario.  And its all low speed fun as well :y.

It lacks power (big time), and obviously has an image problem, but that doesn't make it boring.


Not tried a new one, but suspect the weight has ballooned and the power sapped, which would be a crying shame.  Esp as all the old ones have rusted away.

Early MR2s are almost as much fun

Not long ago I mentioned to my local mechanic that I quite fancied an MX5.

"Ever sat in one" ? he asked. I hadn't. He had one in for repairs. I needed a shoehorn and grease to get in. So, that was that

I now have an irrational urge for a Crossfire. Quite cheap these days. Ugly b****rds, but so what  ::)

Resembles a dog taking a dump in side profile. :)
No, that's the insignia.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 September 2018, 22:58:16
No, that's the insignia.

Doesn't the Insignia have more in common with the steaming richard the dog has just deposited? ;D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 September 2018, 14:24:32
No, that's the insignia.

Doesn't the Insignia have more in common with the steaming richard the dog has just deposited? ;D

I don't think the Insignia is quite as attractive or fragrant as your description suggests, Kevin.

The good news is this makes the model undesirable and therefore inexpensive. :y

Being blind would also help but this may cause problems for other drivers. :)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 September 2018, 14:56:54
No, that's the insignia.

Doesn't the Insignia have more in common with the steaming richard the dog has just deposited? ;D

I don't think the Insignia is quite as attractive or fragrant as your description suggests, Kevin.

The good news is this makes the model undesirable and therefore inexpensive. :y

Being blind would also help but this may cause problems for other drivers. :)

True enough, and, in this automotive desert, that might make it worthy of consideration as an Omega successor if nothing else floats my boat by then. After all, you don't have to look at the @rse end of it from the driver's seat. ;)

If only I were worthy of even aspiring to Signum ownership. :(

 ;D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 September 2018, 16:34:47
No, that's the insignia.

Doesn't the Insignia have more in common with the steaming richard the dog has just deposited? ;D

I don't think the Insignia is quite as attractive or fragrant as your description suggests, Kevin.

The good news is this makes the model undesirable and therefore inexpensive. :y

Being blind would also help but this may cause problems for other drivers. :)

True enough, and, in this automotive desert, that might make it worthy of consideration as an Omega successor if nothing else floats my boat by then. After all, you don't have to look at the @rse end of it from the driver's seat. ;)

If only I were worthy of even aspiring to Signum ownership. :(

 ;D


Signum ownership is an aspiration for the select few. Rumour has it that less men have walked on the moon than have driven the mighty Signum. :)

A car 'created' by highly-skilled individuals wearing brown overalls complete with a selection of pencils and a slide rule in their top pocket. :)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 September 2018, 16:41:46
Yes..

Just one question: What made their overalls turn brown? ;)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 September 2018, 16:43:57
Yes..

Just one question: What made their overalls turn brown? ;)

It belonged to Ronnie Barker from 'Open all hours'...... :y

I could be wrong but didn't Buzz Aldrin drive a Signum? 8)

Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 September 2018, 16:54:59
Incidentally...........there are a number of well balanced individuals from the 'flat earth society' who say the moon landings were faked. :)

Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 20 September 2018, 17:38:25
I was seriously thinking of an Austin Healey 3000 in metallic blue & cream had one lined up but the trip in the V8 MGB has put me off completely, got some spare cash from house sales so could afford up to around £40,000 if something really caught my eye .
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: BazaJT on 20 September 2018, 18:06:09
I have heard it said that the heat in the AH 3000 can get quite unbearable,and it's not from the heater.It's the heat soak from the engine/gearbox/exhaust,lovely looking things though :y I much prefer classic cars to the modern stuff but it should be remembered they were of their time so modern perceptions of comfort speed etc. need to be adjusted to suit.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 September 2018, 18:26:16
I was seriously thinking of an Austin Healey 3000 in metallic blue & cream had one lined up but the trip in the V8 MGB has put me off completely, got some spare cash from house sales so could afford up to around £40,000 if something really caught my eye .

Plenty of choice at that price point. :y

How about the 1990's AC with the Mustang V8? Only about ninety made in total and possibly/probably a good future investment.

£35000 should do it. :y
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 September 2018, 18:29:38
I was seriously thinking of an Austin Healey 3000 in metallic blue & cream had one lined up but the trip in the V8 MGB has put me off completely, got some spare cash from house sales so could afford up to around £40,000 if something really caught my eye .

Sunbeam Tiger.

4.2 or the later 4.7 V8.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Nick W on 20 September 2018, 18:49:06
I was seriously thinking of an Austin Healey 3000 in metallic blue & cream had one lined up but the trip in the V8 MGB has put me off completely, got some spare cash from house sales so could afford up to around £40,000 if something really caught my eye .

Sunbeam Tiger.

4.2 or the later 4.7 V8.


The V8 seriously compromises the Alpine(an MGB competitor) that the car was 'developed' from.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 20 September 2018, 19:02:09
Yes..

Just one question: What made their overalls turn brown? ;)
Lift off oversteer :D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 September 2018, 19:55:57
Yes..

Just one question: What made their overalls turn brown? ;)
Lift off oversteer :D

.. and affected Buzz too. I understand he doesn't scare easily, either. :-\
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 20 September 2018, 20:08:57
Perhaps he was distracted by the woeful headlight illumination  ;)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 September 2018, 20:50:44
Perhaps he was distracted by the woeful headlight illumination  ;)

Yes....beyond shite. :)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 20 September 2018, 21:12:34
Lotus Carlton or Chevette HS would tempt me at that budget.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 20 September 2018, 21:20:30
Perhaps he was distracted by the woeful headlight illumination  ;)

Yes....beyond shite. :)
Only plod got standard Xenons and have only seen one Vectra C with adaptive forward lighting... ( a £1k option which the car should have had as standard, but because it cost a grand, no one ordered it ::))... And that was a base model estate :o
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 21 September 2018, 15:59:51
Going to take a test drive  in a 5.0 Mustang tomorrow, only thing I don't like is it's bright yellow but wrap the bonnet in Matt black & a few black side stripes could improve it.😎
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 September 2018, 16:50:01
Going to take a test drive  in a 5.0 Mustang tomorrow, only thing I don't like is it's bright yellow but wrap the bonnet in Matt black & a few black side stripes could improve it.😎

You only live once.......and you're a long time dead. :y
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: BazaJT on 21 September 2018, 19:15:29
Nice cars,wonderful soundtrack. :y You've got to love a car that has the words Ground Speed on the speedo dial :D.Quite why anyone would buy the 2.3 ecoboost variant is beyond me.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 September 2018, 19:37:04
Going to take a test drive  in a 5.0 Mustang tomorrow, only thing I don't like is it's bright yellow but wrap the bonnet in Matt black & a few black side stripes could improve it.😎

Yes it'll look like a bumblebee!  ;D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Viral_Jim on 21 September 2018, 20:26:12
Quite why anyone would buy the 2.3 ecoboost variant is beyond me.

Its traditional.

Ford have always produced 2 Mustangs. The v8, and the one for those who should have worked harder at school.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 22 September 2018, 18:42:26
Had the Mustang out for a good run & liked it don't require finance & not interested in gap insurance offered him a cash deal £2500 below the asking price he wouldn't budge so walked away , he's got my details see if he contacts me.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Nick W on 22 September 2018, 19:42:09
Nice cars,wonderful soundtrack. :y You've got to love a car that has the words Ground Speed on the speedo dial :D .Quite why anyone would buy the 2.3 ecoboost variant is beyond me.


Quite why Ford supply the base spec V8 when the four pot is barely any cheaper or less powerful is beyond me. And the current Mustang is another modern Ford with lots of design, but not much actual style.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: STEMO on 22 September 2018, 19:49:29
Nice cars,wonderful soundtrack. :y You've got to love a car that has the words Ground Speed on the speedo dial :D .Quite why anyone would buy the 2.3 ecoboost variant is beyond me.


Quite why Ford supply the base spec V8 when the four pot is barely any cheaper or less powerful is beyond me. And the current Mustang is another modern Ford with lots of design, but not much actual style.
2015 Ford Mustang specifications
ECOBOOST                                V8
Price    £29,995 (estimated)   £34,000 (estimated)
Engine   2.3-litre turbo petrol   5-litre petrol
Power   306bhp   420bhp
Torque   320 lb ft   400 lb ft
0-60mph   5.4 sec (estimated)   4.5 sec (estimated)
Top speed   149mph (estimated)   164mph (estimated)
Fuel   31.2mpg (estimated)   19mpg (estimated)
CO2   195g/km (estimated)   330g/km (estimated)
Road tax band   £485 for first year; £265 thereafter   £1,090 for first year; £500 thereafter
Release date   January 2015   January 2015
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 September 2018, 19:54:53
The 2.3 litre 4 pot is barely adequate in the Focus RS.

Pretty sure Steve McQueen didn't chase the baddies in an arthritic 4 pot Mustang.  ::)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: STEMO on 22 September 2018, 19:58:22
The 2.3 litre 4 pot is barely adequate in the Focus RS.

Pretty sure Steve McQueen didn't chase the baddies in an arthritic 4 pot Mustang.  ::)
You would have to be a fool to pay £500 per annum road tax on any car. Unless, of course, money was no object.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 September 2018, 20:05:27
The 2.3 litre 4 pot is barely adequate in the Focus RS.

Pretty sure Steve McQueen didn't chase the baddies in an arthritic 4 pot Mustang.  ::)
You would have to be a fool to pay £500 per annum road tax on any car. Unless, of course, money was no object.

I do it twice over but then I'm not the sharpest tool in the box. I actually pay £568 twice. :)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: STEMO on 22 September 2018, 20:09:02
The 2.3 litre 4 pot is barely adequate in the Focus RS.

Pretty sure Steve McQueen didn't chase the baddies in an arthritic 4 pot Mustang.  ::)
You would have to be a fool to pay £500 per annum road tax on any car. Unless, of course, money was no object.

I do it twice over but then I'm not the sharpest tool in the box. I actually pay £568 twice. :)
Yes, but I did say 'unless money was no object'.  :)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Andy B on 22 September 2018, 20:13:35
.....
You would have to be a fool to pay £500 per annum road tax on any car. Unless, of course, money was no object.

Looks like I'm a fool then .... I liked the car ... the road tax is what it is. My Merc's tax is compensated by the £30 Smart
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 September 2018, 20:15:00
The 2.3 litre 4 pot is barely adequate in the Focus RS.

Pretty sure Steve McQueen didn't chase the baddies in an arthritic 4 pot Mustang.  ::)
You would have to be a fool to pay £500 per annum road tax on any car. Unless, of course, money was no object.

I do it twice over but then I'm not the sharpest tool in the box. I actually pay £568 twice. :)
Yes, but I did say 'unless money was no object'.  :)

If I had any sense I'd drive an Astra diesel. I'm such a fool.

Possibly beyond help. :-\
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: STEMO on 22 September 2018, 20:15:25
.....
You would have to be a fool to pay £500 per annum road tax on any car. Unless, of course, money was no object.

Looks like I'm a fool then .... I liked the car ... the road tax is what it is. My Merc's tax is compensated by the £30 Smart
Mind your own business, it wasn't you I was trying to annoy  ;D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: STEMO on 22 September 2018, 20:16:17
The 2.3 litre 4 pot is barely adequate in the Focus RS.

Pretty sure Steve McQueen didn't chase the baddies in an arthritic 4 pot Mustang.  ::)
You would have to be a fool to pay £500 per annum road tax on any car. Unless, of course, money was no object.

I do it twice over but then I'm not the sharpest tool in the box. I actually pay £568 twice. :)
Yes, but I did say 'unless money was no object'.  :)

If I had any sense I'd drive an Astra diesel. I'm such a fool.

Possibly beyond help. :-\
That's good. You're obviously not beyond help.  :y
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Andy B on 22 September 2018, 20:17:34
....
Mind your own business, it wasn't you I was trying to annoy  ;D
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Andy B on 22 September 2018, 20:23:17
..... don't require finance & not interested in gap insurance ,.....

How do you expect the poor sales man to make his bonus?  ::) ::)  ;) ;)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 September 2018, 21:30:51
The 2.3 litre 4 pot is barely adequate in the Focus RS.

Pretty sure Steve McQueen didn't chase the baddies in an arthritic 4 pot Mustang.  ::)
You would have to be a fool to pay £500 per annum road tax on any car. Unless, of course, money was no object.

I do it twice over but then I'm not the sharpest tool in the box. I actually pay £568 twice. :)
Yes, but I did say 'unless money was no object'.  :)

If I had any sense I'd drive an Astra diesel. I'm such a fool.

Possibly beyond help. :-\
That's good. You're obviously not beyond help. :y

Yes he is!  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 23 September 2018, 10:10:17
The 2.3 litre 4 pot is barely adequate in the Focus RS.

Pretty sure Steve McQueen didn't chase the baddies in an arthritic 4 pot Mustang.  ::)
You would have to be a fool to pay £500 per annum road tax on any car. Unless, of course, money was no object.
.


For once in my life I can honestly say hand on heart that
money is no object & at nearly 65 years old am not going to worry about a few hundred quid, but still want the deal my way stuff the salesman & his commission on finance etc .😎
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 September 2018, 11:23:21
The 2.3 litre 4 pot is barely adequate in the Focus RS.

Pretty sure Steve McQueen didn't chase the baddies in an arthritic 4 pot Mustang.  ::)
You would have to be a fool to pay £500 per annum road tax on any car. Unless, of course, money was no object.
.


For once in my life I can honestly say hand on heart that
money is no object & at nearly 65 years old am not going to worry about a few hundred quid, but still want the deal my way stuff the salesman & his commission on finance etc .😎


So if the price is right you'd go for the 'stang'?
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 23 September 2018, 14:58:16
The 2.3 litre 4 pot is barely adequate in the Focus RS.

Pretty sure Steve McQueen didn't chase the baddies in an arthritic 4 pot Mustang.  ::)
You would have to be a fool to pay £500 per annum road tax on any car. Unless, of course, money was no object.
.


For once in my life I can honestly say hand on heart that
money is no object & at nearly 65 years old am not going to worry about a few hundred quid, but still want the deal my way stuff the salesman & his commission on finance etc .😎


So if the price is right you'd go for the 'stang'?
.


Think so Opti , had a soft top in the US a few years back  & loved it promised myself one if ever the opportunity & finances allowed.
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 September 2018, 15:29:49
The 2.3 litre 4 pot is barely adequate in the Focus RS.

Pretty sure Steve McQueen didn't chase the baddies in an arthritic 4 pot Mustang.  ::)
You would have to be a fool to pay £500 per annum road tax on any car. Unless, of course, money was no object.
.


For once in my life I can honestly say hand on heart that
money is no object & at nearly 65 years old am not going to worry about a few hundred quid, but still want the deal my way stuff the salesman & his commission on finance etc .😎


So if the price is right you'd go for the 'stang'?
.


Think so Opti , had a soft top in the US a few years back  & loved it promised myself one if ever the opportunity & finances allowed.

They look good and sound great. Good value for the performance. :y

......not sure about the stripe though. ;)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 September 2018, 16:31:49


For once in my life I can honestly say hand on heart that
money is no object & at nearly 65 years old am not going to worry about a few hundred quid, but still want the deal my way stuff the salesman & his commission on finance etc .😎


So if the price is right you'd go for the 'stang'?
.


Think so Opti , had a soft top in the US a few years back  & loved it promised myself one if ever the opportunity & finances allowed.

They look good and sound great. Good value for the performance. :y

......not sure about the stripe though. ;)


My Morris Marina 1800TC Coupe was Mustard coloured.  :-\

The thick black strip down the centre of the bonnet transformed it into the ultimate pussy magnet!  8)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 September 2018, 17:09:54


For once in my life I can honestly say hand on heart that
money is no object & at nearly 65 years old am not going to worry about a few hundred quid, but still want the deal my way stuff the salesman & his commission on finance etc .😎


So if the price is right you'd go for the 'stang'?
.


Think so Opti , had a soft top in the US a few years back  & loved it promised myself one if ever the opportunity & finances allowed.

They look good and sound great. Good value for the performance. :y

......not sure about the stripe though. ;)


My Morris Marina 1800TC Coupe was Mustard coloured.  :-\

The thick black strip down the centre of the bonnet transformed it into the ultimate pussy magnet!  8)

I think I ought to grass you up to the Cat protection league. ;D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 September 2018, 17:35:59


For once in my life I can honestly say hand on heart that
money is no object & at nearly 65 years old am not going to worry about a few hundred quid, but still want the deal my way stuff the salesman & his commission on finance etc .😎


So if the price is right you'd go for the 'stang'?
.


Think so Opti , had a soft top in the US a few years back  & loved it promised myself one if ever the opportunity & finances allowed.

They look good and sound great. Good value for the performance. :y

......not sure about the stripe though. ;)


My Morris Marina 1800TC Coupe was Mustard coloured.  :-\

The thick black strip down the centre of the bonnet transformed it into the ultimate pussy magnet!  8)

I think I ought to grass you up to the Cat protection league. ;D

 Sir Tig is from deepest darkest Darzett. Needs must when the devil drives. :D
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 September 2018, 18:09:22


For once in my life I can honestly say hand on heart that
money is no object & at nearly 65 years old am not going to worry about a few hundred quid, but still want the deal my way stuff the salesman & his commission on finance etc .😎


So if the price is right you'd go for the 'stang'?
.


Think so Opti , had a soft top in the US a few years back  & loved it promised myself one if ever the opportunity & finances allowed.

They look good and sound great. Good value for the performance. :y

......not sure about the stripe though. ;)


My Morris Marina 1800TC Coupe was Mustard coloured.  :-\

The thick black strip down the centre of the bonnet transformed it into the ultimate pussy magnet!  8)

I think I ought to grass you up to the Cat protection league. ;D

 Sir Tig is from deepest darkest Darzett. Needs must when the devil drives. :D

You can all mock!  ::)  But that Marina was one of the best 50 quids I have ever spent!  :y

The 19 year old me had a lot of fun in that car!  ;)  :)
Title: Re: That was dreadful !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 September 2018, 19:46:47


For once in my life I can honestly say hand on heart that
money is no object & at nearly 65 years old am not going to worry about a few hundred quid, but still want the deal my way stuff the salesman & his commission on finance etc .😎


So if the price is right you'd go for the 'stang'?
.


Think so Opti , had a soft top in the US a few years back  & loved it promised myself one if ever the opportunity & finances allowed.

They look good and sound great. Good value for the performance. :y

......not sure about the stripe though. ;)


My Morris Marina 1800TC Coupe was Mustard coloured.  :-\

The thick black strip down the centre of the bonnet transformed it into the ultimate pussy magnet!  8)

I think I ought to grass you up to the Cat protection league. ;D

 Sir Tig is from deepest darkest Darzett. Needs must when the devil drives. :D

You can all mock!  ::)  But that Marina was one of the best 50 quids I have ever spent!  :y

The 19 year old me had a lot of fun in that car!  ;)  :)

I think it is hard not to have fun when you're nineteen. :y