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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: terry paget on 11 July 2020, 07:10:21
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Astra 1.6 DS06 is due MOT in August. Last year it got an advisory note for service due light on. I recall a post on how to cancel this light, but cannot find it. Please remind me.
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Im sure that Google will know .... ::)
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If I remember correctly :-
Foot on brake pedal, switch ignition on, press and hold the reset button on the dash next to speedometer.
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It's covered in Haynes iirc ;)
If not, I'm sure DTB can tell you how to remove the bulb :D
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I'm sure DTB can tell you how to remove the bulb :D
:o slander DG , I put black tape over my warning lights ,not remove the bulbs ;D :D
It's not a bulb ,the dash warning lights are surface mount SMD LED on astra H Even astra G IIRC
but the service interval indicator is just the word InSP on the LCD mileage section
foot on the brake, press the trip reset and hold it ,then switch Ignition to 2 , the InSP will flash for about 5 seconds ,then display ------ , release the trip button , turn off ignition, remove key, foot off the brake .
VIDEO CLICKY (https://www.google.com/search?q=astra+h+service+reset&rlz=1C1NHXL_enGB702GB704&oq=astra+h+service&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0l5.11899j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#kpvalbx=_858JX9rvL8nT1fAPudKr0AI36)
However , if it is the spanner light illuminated, it's probably got stored DTCs and probably faults too ,check all modules for stored DTCs and repair/reset using your laptop based "code reader" Terry ;)
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Thank you gentlemen. Job Done.
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As you were. The above worked first time on my Vectra. Ben brought his Astra here today, I tried the same trick, but it failed. His car says InSP2. I went through the same routine, the InSP2 flashed 10 times, then changed to a line of dashes, but when I switched off InSP2 reappeared. I am puzzled.
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from memory InSP2 is a canbus error to warn you that one or more lights are not working (eg brake or sidelight bulb blown)
and InSP3 is remote battery voltage low / replace
InSP being service oil change due ,which you can set the interval for and i think :-\ turn off permanently
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InSP - service interval display
InSP2 - Faulty Bulb
InSP3 - Battery voltage of remote control or electronic key in Open&Start system low
InSP4 - Drain water from diesel fuel filter.
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InSP - service interval display
InSP2 - Faulty Bulb
InSP3 - Battery voltage of remote control or electronic key in Open&Start system low
InSP4 - Drain water from diesel fuel filter.
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Presumably thats valid for my Zaffy-A as well? Or is that only Astra-H/Zaf-B?
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InSP - service interval display
InSP2 - Faulty Bulb
InSP3 - Battery voltage of remote control or electronic key in Open&Start system low
InSP4 - Drain water from diesel fuel filter.
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Presumably thats valid for my Zaffy-A as well? Or is that only Astra-H/Zaf-B?
Astra G and Zafira A are KWP2000 not canbus
you get InSP for service interval
not seen any other error warnings
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InSP - service interval display
InSP2 - Faulty Bulb
InSP3 - Battery voltage of remote control or electronic key in Open&Start system low
InSP4 - Drain water from diesel fuel filter.
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Presumably thats valid for my Zaffy-A as well? Or is that only Astra-H/Zaf-B?
Only for the later stuff I believe :-\
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Pre MOT I changed both rear trafficator bulbs, colour pale last year. I checked all lights, all seemed OK. Rear fog light was RH only. assumed normal. Do I need to reset the InSP message?
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Pre MOT I changed both rear trafficator bulbs, colour pale last year. I checked all lights, all seemed OK. Rear fog light was RH only. assumed normal. Do I need to reset the InSP message?
check ALL your lights Terry :y
I assume you don't have any LED lights or aftermarket HID headlamps fitted :-\
if not canbus compatible it will still show as an error ,even if the LEDs light
i think even interior lights might be monitored because I've had an error for boot lamp in the past
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Canbus cars have a system whereby the car will use alternative bulbs if one blows. The blown one may not be obvious ;)
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Pre MOT I changed both rear trafficator bulbs, colour pale last year. I checked all lights, all seemed OK. Rear fog light was RH only. assumed normal. Do I need to reset the InSP message?
Blimey Terry .... how old is this car if it has trafficators? ::) ::)
(https://drivewrite.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/trafficator-624x351.jpg)
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Canbus cars have a system whereby the car will use alternative bulbs if one blows. The blown one may not be obvious ;)
Jolly clever of it. So the ECU knows which bulb has failed. It would be helpful if it also advised the owner which bulb had failed, so that he could replace it. Tech2?
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It pops the yellow bulb warning light on and, if you ignore it or more than one critical bulb fails, then it puts the inspection message on the dash so that you take it to the dealer to get the bulbs changed.
I suspect that both stop/tail bulbs are blown when you press the pedal.
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Canbus cars have a system whereby the car will use alternative bulbs if one blows. The blown one may not be obvious ;)
Jolly clever of it. So the ECU knows which bulb has failed. It would be helpful if it also advised the owner which bulb had failed, so that he could replace it. Tech2?
You could just look.
Quicker and easier than connecting a tool, if you even have one.
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worth checking that the correct bulbs are fitted to the stop and tail lamps too
I've seen single element bulbs and twin element 21/5w bulbs mixed up ,stuffed in the wrong positions before now ::)
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Yesterday I remove both rear bulb holders to change the orange indicator bulbs, which were losing their orange films. While I had the opportunity, I removed all the other bulbs, and checked them for coninuity - all were OK, none were twin filament. I then checked all the other lights, all were OK. I called out SWMBO to check the brake lights, should be two, I said, there are three on, she replied. Number plate light is on.
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Your missing the point, if the same bulb has failed on either side, then it will still look normal as the car compensates.
Should be more than three brake lights, assuming that the 'third' one is the centre tailgate one and all its elements are working.
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Ben was here this afternoon. As he left I was able to check, with engine running and headlights on, brake lights - both sides worked; and bright rear red lights - offside only worked. This may be normal, but many cars have lights on both sides. The Vectra only has one.
It seems unnecessarily discrete to advise the driver of a failed bulb with a brief small display of InSP2. I have never seen any other message on any Astra or Vectra. Senators and Omegas had unambiguous warning lights, and some Omegas verbal messages.
I understood that these cars detect bulb failure when a 'reed relay' finds the current going to a pair of matching bulbs differs significantly, so if both bulbs fail no warning is displayed. This particular Astra is in Design spec, with a higly informative display board.
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Terry Paget - what DG is saying is that when it detects a bulb failure, it uses one of the other bulbs in that cluster to compensate. So you will still see a tail light (or whatever is blown).
Sure systems often use twin filament bulbs, so check the handbook and ensure the correct bulb types are fitted :y
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Terry Paget - what DG is saying is that when it detects a bulb failure, it uses one of the other bulbs in that cluster to compensate. So you will still see a tail light (or whatever is blown)./highlight]
Sure systems often use twin filament bulbs, so check the handbook and ensure the correct bulb types are fitted :y
Thanks, TB. I understand that. But there only three bulbs available in the red section - rear 5w light, brake light 21w and 21w foggy light. I suppose the brake light and the foggy light are interchageable, but yesterday I checked all the rear bulbs for continuity and all were fine.
I cannot think of any other pairs of interchangeable bulbs.
The 2004-2008 Haynes manual expects stop/tail bulbs to be 5/21w twin. The 2009-2013 manual expects separate bulbs. This car is a 2006 model wih single filament bulbs. I will investigate further.
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Never mind Haynes. What does the actual owners manual say?
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Look at the lamp holder base for the stop tail bulb
2 terminals :-\ then it's a twin element lamp/bulb
know as a 380 lamp 21/5 W :)
clicky for info (https://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/vauxhall-astra-hatchback-2006-2007-56.html)
worth checking that the correct bulbs are fitted to the stop and tail lamps too
I've seen single element bulbs and twin element 21/5w bulbs mixed up ,stuffed in the wrong positions before now ::)
so put the right bulb in and all should be well
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unless it's an astra H ESTATE :-\ in which case it is a single element 382 21w for stop light
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I have two Astra owners manual here, not dated, however first quoted is labelled TS 1612-B-08, second TS 1612-B-04.
I list below the functions in each manual.
Both depict the bulbs in the rear cluster. They describe bulb as follows:
with the single bulb to the left, numbered 5:
5 Fog tail bulb
Going around clockwise from 5,
1 Reversing light
2 Flasher, OR Turn Signal
3 Reversing light/brake light OR Tail light/brake light
4 Tail light OR reversing light
5 Fog tail light right hand side only. Bulb on the left can be used as a spare.
So it looks like bulb 3 should be 2 filament. Will check when the car is next here.
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I have two Astra owners manual here, not dated, however first quoted is labelled TS 1612-B-08, second TS 1612-B-04.
I list below the functions in each manual.
Both depict the bulbs in the rear cluster. They describe bulb as follows:
with the single bulb to the left, numbered 5:
5 Fog tail bulb
Going around clockwise from 5,
1 Reversing light
2 Flasher, OR Turn Signal
3 Reversing light/brake light OR Tail light/brake light
4 Tail light OR reversing light
5 Fog tail light right hand side only. Bulb on the left can be used as a spare.
So it looks like bulb 3 should be 2 filament. Will check when the car is next here.
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My last car ... Merc R Class .... was all CANbus &the stop/tail lamp was a single filament bulb, electrickery made it a dim tail light or bright stop light
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Coming to a Vauxhall in 2022 :D
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(https://www.dropbox.com/s/iuyrdsmwh7eo0qc/DS06rearLIGHT.jpg?dl=1)
Thanks to all for help. Problem is now solved.
Picture above shows the base of bulb no. 3, offside rear light cluster, which is the bulb which can be twin filament. The picture shows it is clearly single filament. The bulb envelope looked a bit blackened internally. so I replaced the bulb with new, and the InSP2 message has vanished. Great! Wondering why, I checked its resistance, and it read 20 ohms, which means it is now more like a 6w bulb. I guess that is what the message was trying to tell me.
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Job jobbed :y