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05omegav6

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Insignia Q
« on: 23 January 2014, 17:13:05 »
Does the Insignia have an analogue speed signal?

If so where might it be located?

TIA, Al :y
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #1 on: 23 January 2014, 17:29:17 »
Yes, on the speedometer :y
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #2 on: 23 January 2014, 17:35:26 »
Quote from: Auto Addict on 23 January 2014, 17:29:17
Yes, on the speedometer :y
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Any idea which pin and on which plug :-\
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #3 on: 23 January 2014, 17:41:50 »
Quote from: Taxi Al on 23 January 2014, 17:35:26
Quote from: Auto Addict on 23 January 2014, 17:29:17
Yes, on the speedometer :y
8)
Any idea which pin and on which plug :-\

Correct ::)
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #4 on: 23 January 2014, 18:07:39 »
Quote from: Auto Addict on 23 January 2014, 17:41:50
Quote from: Taxi Al on 23 January 2014, 17:35:26
Quote from: Auto Addict on 23 January 2014, 17:29:17
Yes, on the speedometer :y
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Any idea which pin and on which plug :-\

Correct ::)
A touch ambiguous :-\

If I pop the cluster out, which wire do I tap into?
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #5 on: 23 January 2014, 18:21:04 »
I wouldn't mind guessing there is only CAN on the connector. Obviously at some point in the speedo, that gets converted.
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #6 on: 23 January 2014, 18:32:24 »
That has been suggested to be the case :-\ needed to drive a taxi meter, if I need to buy a box, so be it, hoping to avoid if at all possible :y
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #7 on: 23 January 2014, 18:42:02 »
Quote from: Taxi Al on 23 January 2014, 18:32:24
That has been suggested to be the case :-\ needed to drive a taxi meter, if I need to buy a box, so be it, hoping to avoid if at all possible :y
Veccy-C only has CAN, can't see Insignia being different
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #8 on: 23 January 2014, 18:48:19 »
Quote from: TheBoy on 23 January 2014, 18:42:02
Quote from: Taxi Al on 23 January 2014, 18:32:24
That has been suggested to be the case :-\ needed to drive a taxi meter, if I need to buy a box, so be it, hoping to avoid if at all possible :y

Veccy-C only has CAN, can't see Insignia being different
Not true :y has an analogue line but damned if I know what it connects ::) three BlRt wires near the heater motor, one of which is definitely analoge
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #9 on: 23 January 2014, 18:52:56 »
Quote from: Taxi Al on 23 January 2014, 18:48:19
Quote from: TheBoy on 23 January 2014, 18:42:02
Quote from: Taxi Al on 23 January 2014, 18:32:24
That has been suggested to be the case :-\ needed to drive a taxi meter, if I need to buy a box, so be it, hoping to avoid if at all possible :y

Veccy-C only has CAN, can't see Insignia being different
Not true :y has an analogue line but damned if I know what it connects ::) three BlRt wires near the heater motor, one of which is definitely analoge
Did it change on later ones? As the half-CANs would have analogue for the HUs, for SDVC. Later Vecs had the full CAN HUs, so that analogue wouldn't be required.
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #10 on: 23 January 2014, 18:58:14 »
All 4 Vec Cs I've dealt with have had one, 3x '55 facelifts and one '58... :y

Have been advised a box is needed, but would prefer to fit the wiring myself...( Not that I'm precious about my cars or anything :D). ..if at all possible :-\
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #11 on: 23 January 2014, 19:04:03 »
Can pm reg if it helps :-\
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #12 on: 23 January 2014, 19:06:50 »
Quote from: Taxi Al on 23 January 2014, 19:04:03
Can pm reg if it helps :-\
It wouldn't. :(

Can't think what a late vec-c would need analogue speed for, unless its a hangover from the half-can days
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #13 on: 23 January 2014, 19:09:03 »
VIN :-\

The Vecs were two Design models, one Exclusive and one Life... So no consistent reason I can think of either ;D
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #14 on: 23 January 2014, 19:12:19 »
Quote from: Taxi Al on 23 January 2014, 19:09:03
VIN :-\

The Vecs were two Design models, one Exclusive and one Life... So no consistent reason I can think of either ;D
The wiring diags are generic, not filtered for a specific config/spec.  Not that I currently have access to Insignia Schems, as I'm, as usual, laying in the bath...
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #15 on: 23 January 2014, 19:14:58 »
 ;D you must get through more hot water than I do petrol...
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #16 on: 23 January 2014, 19:19:11 »
Quote from: Taxi Al on 23 January 2014, 19:14:58
;D you must get through more hot water than I do petrol...
Don't tell my physio, as he goes radio rental, but I find it relieves my back.

Also, the steam at the moment loosens the flippin' snot I'm full of.
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #17 on: 23 January 2014, 19:20:33 »
That time of year again :'(
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #18 on: 23 January 2014, 19:30:21 »
Quote from: Taxi Al on 23 January 2014, 19:20:33
That time of year again :'(
Yeah, but 4 ****ing weeks, I'm bored of it now  >:(
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #19 on: 23 January 2014, 19:38:51 »
I'll bet :-\
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #20 on: 23 January 2014, 20:08:40 »
If it's of any help then the "analogue" signal that the ABS/TC module produces in the Omega isn't actually analogue at all. I STR that it's a 0 / +12v "square" wave that changes either frequency and/or mark/space ratio with speed. I scoped it once in a former life - but can't remember much more than that .......

I know for sure that it's a blue/red cable - on the Omega ..........

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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #21 on: 23 January 2014, 20:11:44 »
That's the thing I'm seeking, if it exists, on the Insignia :y
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #22 on: 23 January 2014, 22:22:03 »
I don't think you are going to find a speed pulse signal in your Insignia.

I think you are going to need one of these http://sailesmarketing.com/products/can-bus-interfaces/cb-1-canbus-interface/ to receive the speed data from the canbus and give you a speed pulse for the taximeter.

NB this isn't a recommendation for that particular manufacturer, just an illustration of the device you need (though of course they may be an excellent manufacturer :-\)
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #23 on: 23 January 2014, 22:30:44 »
 :y Easy enough to fit by the look of it... :-\
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #24 on: 24 January 2014, 08:30:50 »
So your looking for a digital speed signal, not an analogue one?
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #25 on: 24 January 2014, 09:14:03 »
To finish my input, you either need a converter such as a CANM8-PULSE (sub 50 notes) or you would have to tap into the ABS sensor input to the ABS ecu.
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Re: Insignia Q
« Reply #26 on: 24 January 2014, 10:29:53 »
The meter is a digitax f1. Whatever the Omega/Vectra C produces works, so looking for same on Insignia :y

Considering... http://www.connects2.co.uk/ProductInformation.aspx?id=10862&p=CTHVX02

As only has CD400, so swapping my current bluetooth headunit is a possibility...
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