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[EMD]

The ones with room for another one on the drive , this one looks really nice 

http://classicscentral.co.uk/lot-73-1993-vauxhall-senator-24-valve/

[Kevin Wood]

Hmm. There is something about the Senator that the Omega doesn't have...


.. and it's not timing chains.

[aaronjb]

Hmm. There is something about the Senator that the Omega doesn't have...

Looks only a mother could love?

[Andy B]

Don't 15" rims look small on a car that size now

[Andy B]

Hmm. There is something about the Senator that the Omega doesn't have...

Looks only a mother could love?

I liked my Senator ..... prefered the digi dash though - like mine was

[Kevin Wood]

It's something from my youth about that cheese grater grille bearing down on you on the M3 in battenburg. "Here we go again"!

[2boxerdogs]

Looks very nice, if only I had a double garage , always wanted a Senator  cheap at £2-£3,000.

[VXL V6]

Used to always see burgundy unmarked plod ones on the M1 around Sheffield..... two or three aerials, two rear view mirrors and a camera along with the ability to see the blue strobes behind the cheese cutter grill didn't really do much for it being a covert car!

[BazaJT]

Even though my Senators have all been of the 12v CIH variety,I'd still take one over the Omega every day of the week,trouble is I'm a couple of grand or so short

[Mr Gav]

Don't 15" rims look small on a car that size now

Don`t they just 

Hmm. There is something about the Senator that the Omega doesn't have...

Looks only a mother could love?

I liked my Senator ..... prefered the digi dash though - like mine was

I liked my digi dash too, cracking cars 

[terry paget]

I loved my ex-police Senators, but if not driven every day the forward mounted distributor and cheesegrater grill made them trouble to start in damp weather. Other failings were head gaskets, oil coolers and fuel pumps. They were very fast and smooth. My claim to fame was appearing on the cover of Straight Six News with four Senators. As the clutches failed I scrapped them and replaced them with Omegas, more reliable but slower and less exciting.
 The OOF has taught me to change clutches. Now I have owned a 3.2 police special for 10 years, longer that any Senator.

[annihilator]

too late,the auction was last sunday 

[Andy B]

Even though my Senators have all been of the 12v CIH variety, .....

I had a 12 valve Senator followed by one with 24 valves ...... the difference in performance was very noticeable. 

[henryd]

Hmm. There is something about the Senator that the Omega doesn't have...


.. and it's not timing chains.

I know what you mean,not the bit about chains !!

[omega2018]

there's a manual 2.5 one for sale now on ebay £120 buy it now -172117223961

they've put it in the wrong section     Vauxhall & Opel Brochures won't get many bids there

[omega2018]

hang on, type 222021320662 into ebay  - this £490 sold listing looks very similar to the £3,500 auction one.  nice profit for a wax and polish, new plates, fancy photoshoot and an MOT

[Steve B]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Senator-/222021320662?ru=http%3A+www.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D222021320662%26_rdc%3D1&nma=true&si=hfvWKkpYkro%252FJmlilnjs1EXZ2ao%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

he never even bothered to give it a clean

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

If I had seen that at the time - at that price- I would have bought it. Although I suspect a lot of other people would have done the same.
I loved my 24v Senator, and have always had the idea of another one in the back of my mind.
Would have to convert to digidash though. Its a must.

[omega2018]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172117223961 sold this morning less than £120.

[andrew-v8]

This was up for sale on the autotrader last week for £1250

[TheBoy]

I'm sure tunnie and I proved that a bog standard 3.0l auto Omega could outrun a 24v Senator.  Not oodles in it to be fair, but the Omega definitely won, even with a failed HG

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Presumably the Senator was being driven by Tunnie ,who according to many posts on here drives like Miss Daises great granny ? 
I have driven many V6 Omegas  and Im pretty certain My 24v Senator would have outrun all of them.   

[TheBoy]

Presumably the Senator was being driven by Tunnie ,who according to many posts on here drives like Miss Daises great granny ? 
I have driven many V6 Omegas  and Im pretty certain My 24v Senator would have outrun all of them.   

He was flat out. It was a straight piece of (private, obviously) tarmac. I'd always maintained, after removing the rose tinted glasses, the Omega was quicker, although tunnie anf others always disagreed. That was our opportunity to prove it.

I reckon the multiram's smoothness over the 24v dual ram made the Omega seem less anxious.

[BazaJT]

We need Webby to do a 0-60 comparison test

[omega2018]

wikipedia says the 24V 3.0 senator engine had 201bhp, 3.0 migs have 214bhp. senator slightly lighter.  apparently there was a 4.0l one though, 268bhp .

[ted_one]

Well...as Harry Hill says ''there's only one way to settle this''  So why not arrange something like they have up at Bruntingthorpe where we can rag the cars and have a day out, or a RWYB at Santa Pod which would probably be better for accurate timings and a flat out run over the quarter, car on car

[aaronjb]

But who will bring the MX5 to beat them all? 

[Kevin Wood]

But who will bring the MX5 to beat them all? 

Erhh. Hmm.

[Andy B]

.... 
 .... apparently there was a 4.0l one though, 268bhp .

There is/was one in the ABS

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

But who will bring the MX5 to beat them all? 

Somebody with a sister or a gay friend.

[Andy B]

But who will bring the MX5 to beat them all? 

Somebody with a sister or a gay friend.

or hair dresser ..... 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

But who will bring the MX5 to beat them all? 

Somebody with a sister or a gay friend.

or hair dresser ..... 

Yes.....I can't see how an MX5 loaded down with a boot full of 'hairdressing paraphernalia' can defeat a healthy 3.2 Omega over a distance of more more than 100 yards.

Perhaps it was all a fix, and the Omega in question was a sickly 2.2 or even Omega derv.

[ted_one]

Let's get it sorted,I would like to see wether my remapped 3.2 is really putting out the claimed 240 ponies that's on the RR printout.....probably not, but it's pretty lively just the same Don't want to take a knife to a gunfight

[tunnie]

I had a Senator for a Europe tour I did, great cars. Loved the S6 engine from a DIY point of view, I found it far easier than V6. Actually enjoyed working on it, and no cambelts to worry about     

[EMD]

.... 
 .... apparently there was a 4.0l one though, 268bhp .

There is/was one in the ABS

This should have been put in the Omega

[ted_one]

This will be right up Webby's strasse,let's hope he's up for it

[Keith ABS]

  There is an ABS member who is looking into putting a 12V engine into an Omega as he prefers the bullet proofness of that engine over the 24V unit

Keith ABS