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[STEMO]

Been up since half four this morning, I'm really having trouble sleeping these days. Go off alright (we'll, not bad) and wake up anywhere between 3 and 5. Then spend the day knackered...but not grumpy, like some people.
I'm putting it down to my lad's A levels and off to uni (really worried about that one), but who knows. 
Some people I talk to have been like this for years, but seem to get by on about 4-5 hours. It can't be good for you/me.

[Mister Rog]

It's because she's insatiable and can't leave you alone 

[Viral_Jim]

I understand it's something that can affect you more as you age (sorry Ste). That said, my old man has gone the other way, always slept 3-4.5 hrs a night until he retired, now does 6-7.

TBH I wouldn't worry (it won't help you sleep   ) your lad is heading for one of the biggest challenges of his life so far, and you for one of the biggest changes any parent faces. It's bound to have a short term effect 

Personally, between 3hrs of commuting a day, finishing off renovating the house evenings and weekends, I don't have any trouble getting my allotted 6hrs 

[Varche]

6. .!  Not enough surely.

[Viral_Jim]

Honestly, I could do 10+, every night, easily 

SWMBO knows not to disturb me before 9-9.30 on a weekend, and even then, only if she's bearing a bacon sandwich

[Lincs Robert]

I've found that worry is the biggest issue in not sleeping.

Having had the misfortune to have suffered a couple of periods of unemployment within the last five years, AND oldest son being "deployed" five times - I can see that there is a direct correlation between my worry/stress and not sleeping well. Similar symptoms to those you describe actually - getting off to sleep fairly easily, but then waking up and having stressful thoughts for ages. "What if, why didn't I do so & so etc". So I can see that your lads forthcoming exams could be doing that for you.

The good news is that removing the stress solves the problem almost immediately.

I've found that proper meals and getting decent physical/mental exercise helps a lot - try taking up bellringing  .

[Sir Tigger KC]

I sleep like a bastard, which is strange as I always thought I had some sort of conscience....   

[omegod]

6 hrs no more no less , even if I go earlier I wake up at stupid o'clock

[redelitev6]

Work will affect your sleep pattern , when I'm on early shift I'm always awake before the alarm goes of at 0530 , must be a mental thing about sleeping in ?   

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Been up since half four this morning, I'm really having trouble sleeping these days. Go off alright (we'll, not bad) and wake up anywhere between 3 and 5. Then spend the day knackered...but not grumpy, like some people.
I'm putting it down to my lad's A levels and off to uni (really worried about that one), but who knows. 
Some people I talk to have been like this for years, but seem to get by on about 4-5 hours. It can't be good for you/me.

At your age you will need to take a piss three or four times a night unless you want wet sheets.

This will disrupt your sleep.

I suggest......


1. Sex just before you switch off the light.
2.A hot bath followed by a warm milky drink.
3.Herbal sleep remedy after an energetic day.
4.Excessive alcohol .......although this can lead to a 'wet bed'
5.Die.....from this point on you will have no trouble sleeping
6.Meditation.
7.Yoga.
8.Sleeping pills.
9. Stop worrying.
10.Relaxation tape.

The charge for my advice will be £150 or one puke green Astra and £20.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I sleep like a bastard, which is strange as I always thought I had some sort of conscience....   

Nah.

[STEMO]

Been up since half four this morning, I'm really having trouble sleeping these days. Go off alright (we'll, not bad) and wake up anywhere between 3 and 5. Then spend the day knackered...but not grumpy, like some people.
I'm putting it down to my lad's A levels and off to uni (really worried about that one), but who knows. 
Some people I talk to have been like this for years, but seem to get by on about 4-5 hours. It can't be good for you/me.

At your age you will need to take a piss three or four times a night unless you want wet sheets.

This will disrupt your sleep.

I suggest......


1. Sex just before you switch off the light.
2.A hot bath followed by a warm milky drink.
3.Herbal sleep remedy after an energetic day.
4.Excessive alcohol .......although this can lead to a 'wet bed'
5.Die.....from this point on you will have no trouble sleeping
6.Meditation.
7.Yoga.
8.Sleeping pills.
9. Stop worrying.
10.Relaxation tape.

The charge for my advice will be £150 or one puke green Astra and £20.

Sorry......I chose five so you're gettin nowt. 

[STEMO]

I've found that worry is the biggest issue in not sleeping.

Having had the misfortune to have suffered a couple of periods of unemployment within the last five years, AND oldest son being "deployed" five times - I can see that there is a direct correlation between my worry/stress and not sleeping well. Similar symptoms to those you describe actually - getting off to sleep fairly easily, but then waking up and having stressful thoughts for ages. "What if, why didn't I do so & so etc". So I can see that your lads forthcoming exams could be doing that for you.

The good news is that removing the stress solves the problem almost immediately.

I've found that proper meals and getting decent physical/mental exercise helps a lot - try taking up bellringing  .

Thanks, Robert. So...I shouldn't worry about not sleeping, because that will stop me from sleeping. 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

My sleeping pattern is haywire due to doing 10 out of every 28 nights (without overtime) on nightshifts. I used to worry a lot about it, but decided to stop worrying and sleep when I'm tired whatever time of the day or night it is. I sleep better now due to not stressing about a lack of sleep.
Easier said than done though, if you have genuine major worries going on. Worrying and fretting doesn't usually help, but its hard not at times.

[TD]

Been up since half four this morning, I'm really having trouble sleeping these days. Go off alright (we'll, not bad) and wake up anywhere between 3 and 5. Then spend the day knackered...but not grumpy, like some people.
I'm putting it down to my lad's A levels and off to uni (really worried about that one), but who knows. 
Some people I talk to have been like this for years, but seem to get by on about 4-5 hours. It can't be good for you/me.

At your age you will need to take a piss three or four times a night unless you want wet sheets.

This will disrupt your sleep.

I suggest......


1. Sex just before you switch off the light.

Its Stemo, even with the light off .. <shudder>..... pass the mind bleach please 

[Shackeng]

Concerning worry, I have long ago conditioned myself only to mither about those things I can affect, anything I can't, such as when will Trump start WW3, I leave to others.

[Doctor Gollum]

I can't sleep before a day shift... Summat to do with an 03:45 alarm  be lucky if I am asleep before 1

Nights... No bother 15:45 is a perfectly reasonable time to arise

[neil74]

I very rarely sleep properly which is why i'm normally looking like death warmed up within a few hours of actually getting up most days. it's been so long now since I've had a decent sleep that if i did get a good night i'd probably die of shock when i realised it..

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I can't sleep before a day shift... Summat to do with an 03:45 alarm  be lucky if I am asleep before 1

Nights... No bother 15:45 is a perfectly reasonable time to arise

I'm exactly the same for some reason. 0615 alarm. 0200 I'm lying in bed looking at the ceiling. Had a good sleep last night. Went to bed at 0140, woke up at 1010. 

[Lizzie Zoom]

I can't sleep before a day shift... Summat to do with an 03:45 alarm  be lucky if I am asleep before 1

Nights... No bother 15:45 is a perfectly reasonable time to arise

I'm exactly the same for some reason. 0615 alarm. 0200 I'm lying in bed looking at the ceiling. Had a good sleep last night. Went to bed at 0140, woke up at 1010. 

When I had a husband that used to happen regularly, but I did sleep well afterwards!!

[TheBoy]

Sleeping loads at the moment (including Sunday afternoon ). Unusual, as I'm normally an insomniac.

I think its the painkillers I'm taking are knocking me out 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I can't sleep before a day shift... Summat to do with an 03:45 alarm  be lucky if I am asleep before 1

Nights... No bother 15:45 is a perfectly reasonable time to arise

I'm exactly the same for some reason. 0615 alarm. 0200 I'm lying in bed looking at the ceiling. Had a good sleep last night. Went to bed at 0140, woke up at 1010. 

When I had a husband that used to happen regularly, but I did sleep well afterwards!!

I'm saying nothing.

[STEMO]

I can't sleep before a day shift... Summat to do with an 03:45 alarm  be lucky if I am asleep before 1

Nights... No bother 15:45 is a perfectly reasonable time to arise

I'm exactly the same for some reason. 0615 alarm. 0200 I'm lying in bed looking at the ceiling. Had a good sleep last night. Went to bed at 0140, woke up at 1010. 

When I had a husband that used to happen regularly, but I did sleep well afterwards!!

I'm saying nothing.

For the best, I think 

[Viral_Jim]

I can't sleep before a day shift... Summat to do with an 03:45 alarm  be lucky if I am asleep before 1

Nights... No bother 15:45 is a perfectly reasonable time to arise

Yup, I'm the same if I ever have to do an early flight, 0315 alarm, never manage to get to sleep at the 2200 allotted time  . Thankfully I only have 1 more of those to go, and that's if BA aren't on strike  . Otherwise I'll be taking the Swede to Poland via the Chunnel. 

[Rods2]

Go through spells of sleeping reasonably well, but having real problems at the moment. Saw sleepless STEMO's post last night where I went to bed feeling tired at midnight, go up where I couldn't sleep at 2:50 am and wide awake, had two cans of beer and back to bed, last time I looked at the clock was gone 4 am, woke up tired and got up at 7:50 am this morning, but did feel much better after a 30-minute nap after lunch.