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Author Topic: My astra is killing the planet  (Read 8971 times)

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STEMO

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Re: My astra is killing the planet
« Reply #75 on: 17 January 2020, 11:08:19 »

Surely the same thing can be said of electric vehicles?
No, no! The energy you use for an EV comes from thin air. It's magic, you see. Ask any vegan.

In much the same way that no CO2 is expended in the extraction, transportation, refining or storage of Petrol/Diesel prior to it getting the the filling station forecourt. The fuel faeries are most efficient like that. :y
No one is denying the carbon footprint that petrol/ diesel produces, but greenies would have people think that alternative fuels have virtually no impact.
And what's a faery?  ;D
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Re: My astra is killing the planet
« Reply #76 on: 17 January 2020, 12:24:54 »

There is no vehicle solution which is zero emission, all we have today is the ability to move the emissions to locations away from the tailpipe.
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Re: My astra is killing the planet
« Reply #77 on: 17 January 2020, 12:30:13 »

Yes even cyclists increase their carbon footprint when they start puffing out all that CO2 going up hills.  :P  ;D
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Re: My astra is killing the planet
« Reply #78 on: 17 January 2020, 12:42:57 »


No one is denying the carbon footprint that petrol/ diesel produces, but greenies would have people think that alternative fuels have virtually no impact.
No, but it's misleading to compare tailpipe emissions to ev emissions from the point of generation all the way to the point of use as that isn't like for like. You will often see 'anti greenies' comparing the manufacturers' CO2 figures for a diesel car (which are not even realistically achievable in the real world) to the generation emissions for an ev. Which is nonsense.

And what's a faery?  ;D

Since you asked so nicely  :y
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Re: My astra is killing the planet
« Reply #79 on: 17 January 2020, 14:35:00 »


No one is denying the carbon footprint that petrol/ diesel produces, but greenies would have people think that alternative fuels have virtually no impact.
No, but it's misleading to compare tailpipe emissions to ev emissions from the point of generation all the way to the point of use as that isn't like for like. You will often see 'anti greenies' comparing the manufacturers' CO2 figures for a diesel car (which are not even realistically achievable in the real world) to the generation emissions for an ev. Which is nonsense.

And what's a faery?  ;D

Since you asked so nicely  :y
I see. It's a spelling mistake then  ;D
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Re: My astra is killing the planet
« Reply #80 on: 17 January 2020, 15:35:03 »


No one is denying the carbon footprint that petrol/ diesel produces, but greenies would have people think that alternative fuels have virtually no impact.
No, but it's misleading to compare tailpipe emissions to ev emissions from the point of generation all the way to the point of use as that isn't like for like. You will often see 'anti greenies' comparing the manufacturers' CO2 figures for a diesel car (which are not even realistically achievable in the real world) to the generation emissions for an ev. Which is nonsense.

And what's a faery?  ;D

Since you asked so nicely  :y
I see. It's a spelling mistake then  ;D
Only in certain areas though. ;)
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Re: My astra is killing the planet
« Reply #81 on: 17 January 2020, 19:38:09 »

Surely the same thing can be said of electric vehicles?
No, no! The energy you use for an EV comes from thin air. It's magic, you see. Ask any vegan.

Yep, in the same way that living on beans and pulses cuts your greenhouse gas emissions. ;D
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