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Title: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 16:01:17
Hi everyone

spoke with my local mechanic, and he spoke to his mate who has worked for Vauxhall for 30 years, he advised me to take the car to Vauxhall Dealership to run the "diagnostic test" to find the fault with "why i have no heat at all, and only cold Air" because it could be many different problems....
i have just got back from there, cost me £29 to be told that my head gasket has gone on my car, i`m sat here in shock as i loved me little Omega, i have done about 8000 miles in about 6 - 7 years, only use it 2 days a week, maybe slightly more.... normally sat on my drive, has had regular oil changes every 5000 miles, spent a fortune last year on cambelt, water pump, rocker cover gaskets and tons of other stuff on it etc etc etc....#

i asked Vauxhall how much to fix it, they told me 22 hours at £65 an hour, just for the Labour!!
thats £1430 WITHOUT the parts! how much are the parts then?

so, do i scrap the car? sell it on Ebay? how much would i get for it?
its done 68000 miles exactly

does the head gasket just go and its one of them things?
i dont understand how it can just go like this, or have i done it no good by not using it every day?

im totally gutted as im broke and cant afford another car, i wont be buying an Omega again, as much as i loved my car for how plush it was inside, how quiet it is to drive, used to get 33 MPG driving at about 70mph everywhere, the car has served me well... so maybe its just FATE



Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Welung666 on 07 April 2009, 16:03:19
Very rare for the V6's head gaskets to go, I think you're being led up the garden path. What exactly are the symptoms/problems?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: ians on 07 April 2009, 16:04:17
wait a minute.  They diagnosed that becuase you are getting no heat out of the heater?

What were the symptons?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Elite Pete on 07 April 2009, 16:05:10
Does the car use any water and is there any mayo on the dipstick.

Wayne you should know better than to listen to your Vauxhall Dealer before asking the question on here ::)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: kingplym on 07 April 2009, 16:07:44
that just sounds like a blocked matrix!!! :o
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: RobG on 07 April 2009, 16:09:46
Head gasket sound like VX 'dangle berries'. Get your symptons posted Wayne
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 16:11:06
i was simply told that the first thing that was run was a "pressure test" and that this showed that the head gasket was gone...

i basically got up this morning, headed to Vauxhall because i had NO heat coming from my heater, only cold air...even when set to HOT.
half way there i topped up with some coolant and then i had heat!
got to Vauxhall and turnt my heating off and then back on again, and NO heat! checked the coolant level and that was fine

let it with Vauxhall for 30 minutes and thats what they told me, there isnt any gunk on the Dipstick...

how the hell do i know if they are lying?
i cant trust anyone these days, apart from you guys!

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 16:12:55
im praying they are bullshitting me, i will then be able to sleep again

all i want is heat from my heater, it works occassionally and then the next minute it wont give me any heat...then it works, then it dont
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: ians on 07 April 2009, 16:14:06
Is the coolant level dropping significantly?

Have you tried resetting the climate (press Auto and Off for a few seconds)?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 16:15:04
i know some of you guys dont like me posting this, but im willing to pay anyone to sort my heating out and tell me if the head gasket has REALLY gone, im gonna be in Nottingham on Sunday for my gig at Rock City with another Bon Jovi Tribute, were raising money for a cancer charity
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: RobG on 07 April 2009, 16:15:42
Any coolant leaks from rear of engine dripping onto gearbox. :question
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 16:19:01
last Saturday i set off from Nottingham, put the heat on and only cold air come out, i stopped at M1 Leicester South Services, called Green Flag out and they checked the coolant level, said it was fine, i also checked and it was almost Maximum.. they couldnt fix it by the roadside as they had NO idea what it was, great ey ?
got up this morning, started my car up and it said "coolant level low"
i checked and it was just below minimum!  so i put 2 pints of water in it and the heat started to work

got to Vauxhall and it was still working, came out of Vauxhall afer buying some AntiFreeze (thinking it was just low coolant level) and had to turn the car round and take it back to get the diagnostic test done as adding more coolant made no difference as it hadnt gone down at all
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 16:19:41
i cant see anything leaking on my drive or anywhere else

i have also reset the climate control about 20 times, was hoping that would cure it, but no  >:(
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Post by: Elite Pete on 07 April 2009, 16:21:08
Is there antifreeze in the water?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 16:22:56
antifreeze in the water, i think so  lol

shoud i empty the entire contents of the coolant tank and re-fill with 5 litres of VX stuff that i just bought today
(before i knew it was this bullshit head gasket problem)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: ians on 07 April 2009, 16:25:46
2 pints is significant - assuming you check it regularly.

Try sitting in the car with it running up to temperature.  

Then try setting it to min and max temp with AC (Auto) on and off (so 4 combinations in all).   Let it run for a few minutes at each setting, hop out and look for leaks/drips from behind the engine on the drivers side.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Black Knight on 07 April 2009, 16:56:42
I'd be suprised if it was the head gasket at that mileage.

Stick with it mate, I can promise you can sort it for less than what Vx quoted you, probably quite a lot less!!
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 16:58:19
i have no leaks or anything just ckecked

i have emptied the coolant tank completely and am about to re-fill it with 5 litres of the red stuff, do i just puur the whole lot in? how much water do i add once the red stuff is in?

i have also checked the oil dipstick and the oil is simply black, i cant see any creamy gunk on it, what colour is this gunk stuff?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 17:00:29
how do you know IF the head gasket has gone or not?
incase the VX idiots are lying to me

would i get no heat IF there was water in the coolant tank but hardly any anti-freeze? maybe i just need more of the red stuff?

there might be a leak somewhere but i cant see any wetness anywhere, apart from behind my ears!  LOL

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: ians on 07 April 2009, 17:05:26
black is not good, but not as bad as cream coloured - you'll know it if you see it.  (black means you need to do more frquent oil changes ;))

Whilst doing a coolant change is no bad thing, it is unlikely to solve the problem.

To do it thoroughly you need to flush out with fresh water a few times.  Basically the system takes about 10L, but you will only get 5L out - so you need to repeatedly flush with fresh water until whats left in is near as damn it pure water.  Then pour in your can of red stuff - not diluted. You should get all of it in just about.  If a bit more topping up is needed to get it up to the mark then use clean water.

But this is not the solution to your problem..  we need to work out where the coolant is going.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 17:06:55
Vauxhall told me they did that pressure test and IF it goes yellow then it means the gasses are going into the water system, meaning Head Gasket has gone or is going...

i just cant tell if they are lying to me or not

anyone on here work for Vauxhall?

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 17:08:42
can i just stick a hose in the coolant tank with the engine off and flush it out that way until just water comes out?

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: RobG on 07 April 2009, 17:08:44
If no visible leaks I`d suggest another pressure test by someone who know`s what they`re actually doing and more importantly, what they`re looking for.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 17:17:30
where else could i take it for a Pressure test? any garage?
Vauxhall charged me £29 for it,  why would they do this test on my car when i simply took it in for an "im not getting any hot air from my heater only cold"


Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: RobG on 07 April 2009, 17:18:10
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can i just stick a hose in the coolant tank with the engine off and flush it out that way until just water comes out?

Expansion cap OFF. Rad drain valve OPEN. When finished draining, CLOSE rad valve. Fill system, cap ON,heater on HOT, FANS maximum. Run engine few minutes. Keep repeating until you get clear water running from rad valve.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: CBH on 07 April 2009, 17:24:03
I was told by VX that my HG was gone and it was the waterpump shaft slipping, new waterpump fixed it and I have 75K since then.
So don't believe the main steelers.
Keep looking and I sure you will fix it
good luck
cbh
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 18:46:17
guys!!

just done a full coolant flush and re-fill

i have fixed the heat problem and you wont believe how!
doing the coolant change made ZERO difference
still doesn't explain IF my head gasket has gone or is going!
i wish i knew IF Vauxhall were lying or not

anyway, here is what i did to get heat all the time, click here to see that i removed just ONE of the Vacuum Pipes, here you can see it taken off
look through these pictures until you get to the pictures i took of the vacuum pipe taken off,
this particular pipe is the ONLY one that makes a difference when its off!
there are also some pics of my lovely (possibly dead car) in its not bad condition
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=239208&id=623190360&l=c96a13b091

however, why the hell is it that when i re-connect it i don't get any heat at all?
its not my imagination, i have tested it for the 60 minutes, taken it on and off about 25 times!!
when i re-connect the pipe on every occasion and put the heat on, i dont get any at all, when i take the pipe off i get heat everytime!
its just a Vacuum pipe! isnt it?
what does it have to do with the heating system?

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: tunnie on 07 April 2009, 18:48:18
am I the only one thinking hbv? if that's faulty and not sending water to the matrx, that would cause no heat, plus if its leaking....
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 07 April 2009, 19:00:59
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am I the only one thinking hbv? if that's faulty and not sending water to the matrx, that would cause no heat, plus if its leaking....


No you are not Tunnie, and I have been thinking that for most of this thread.  Just a bit scared with me saying HBV everytime a member has water trouble!! ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: tunnie on 07 April 2009, 19:06:02
wayne, do you have any history of the hbv (heater bypass valve) being changed?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 19:10:12
so 2 of you reckon its the HBV then?
Mmmmm, i dont know i aint mechanical, so i cant say anything!
just didnt want to spend out on a car that maybe no good IF it is the damn gasket gone or going

so VX could be lying saying my head gasket has gone?
does that explain when i remove this ONE AND ONLY Vacuum pipe i now get heat, isnt that weird?

if i find out that VX are lying, im going to BBC Watchdog to expose these complete and utter lying "B******S"
they shouldnt be able to lie like that!
other silly people would have paid there 21 hour labour charge when there is ZERO wrong with their vehicles!

HOW DO THESE PEOPLE SLEEP AT NIGHT?
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Post by: HolyCount on 07 April 2009, 19:18:51
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am I the only one thinking hbv? if that's faulty and not sending water to the matrx, that would cause no heat, plus if its leaking....

As you all know, I am mechanicaly inept - but must admit I was thinking alone those lines early on. However I was thrown by this pipe -- haven't studied the pics yet though.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: tunnie on 07 April 2009, 19:23:54
I cannot say for sure, hbv routes water to the heater matrix and around the engine. its common for this to fail, cause leaks and be linked to hg. read the maint guide section and feel around that area for leaks
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Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 19:31:05
Wayne. STOP NOW.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 19:31:57
One very simple question.




Did you ever fix that issue you had last year with a constant vac to HBV, thus no heat?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 19:33:24
just got off the phone from my mate who lives in my village, the guys a bleedin Legend for fixing cars, been on the phone for ages, he definately thinks its the head gasket because of this:

1: when i drove back from Nottingham on Saturday, i had no heat.... when i checked coolant level it was fine..

2: when i got up this morning, the coolant level had dropped from Maximum to Minimum, this surely indicates that its losing water and its mixing with the oil yes? indicating Gasket Failure

3: i have no leaks anywhere, so it MUST be going somewhere, if the coolant level is constantly low every morning, then surely this is a big problem?

he also said that you dont always get symptoms like sludge in the oil straight away and any performance problems, which im not getting either of

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Elite Pete on 07 April 2009, 19:33:56
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Wayne. STOP NOW.
You drama queen ;D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 19:34:27
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One very simple question.




Did you ever fix that issue you had last year with a constant vac to HBV, thus no heat?
Answer?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 19:34:58
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One very simple question.




Did you ever fix that issue you had last year with a constant vac to HBV, thus no heat?

no i didnt, i never replaced the HBV
i dont even understand your question, speak English mate  ;D

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 19:37:15
i didnt come on here for any abuse, im more worried about the head gasket problem now and whether or not i should drive the damn thing, and no i dont know why the heat is now working with 1 stupid vac pipe taken off
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 19:37:35
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Quote
One very simple question.




Did you ever fix that issue you had last year with a constant vac to HBV, thus no heat?

no i didnt, i never replaced the HBV
i dont even understand your question, speak English mate  ;D

vac solenoid behind glovebox we diagnosed last year?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: tunnie on 07 April 2009, 19:38:03
hummmmmm!!
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 19:40:23
i dont even know what that is, i know you diagnosed something but we never did get round to getting together to do it, and you said you wouldnt do it anyway, LOL

so i wouldnt of been any further forward  :(
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: jonathanh on 07 April 2009, 20:31:48
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i didnt come on here for any abuse, im more worried about the head gasket problem now and whether or not i should drive the damn thing, and no i dont know why the heat is now working with 1 stupid vac pipe taken off

take it easy please.  you're not getting abuse from here.  there are lots of people trying to help!

Right, let me see if I can explain...

The omega cooling/heating set up is complex.  on the V6, there are lots of bits that can go wrong.  Very rarely do you ever get a head gasket failure but unless you are very familiar with the vauxhall V6 powerplants fitted the omega you will often suspect the HG when it is in fact something else.  So, onto what the something else could be

The HBV is a Heater Bypass Valve.  this is a little plastic valve that sits on the back of the engine that diverts hot water away from your heater matrix when vacuum is applied to it.  Now i cannot see your pictures on facebook but I am guessing the vacuum pipe you removed is connected to this valve.  removing the pipe, means that the valve no longer diverts and hey presto, hot water flows to the heater matrix - you get heat.

the solenoid referred to by TB is a switch that turns the vacuum on - if this fails then you have a permenant vacuum and the bypass valve is always diverting heat from the matrix.  i'm not surprised that TB said he would not fix it, it is a real pain to do!  if you had fixed it, you would have been further forward - your heating would work properly

Now it seems like you have a water leak somewhere, so this needs to be traced.  It could easily be something simply like a water pump failing or even a small leak in a pipe.  you need someone to carefully examine the car  when it is hot for any trace of a leak

good luck
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Post by: Kaycee on 07 April 2009, 20:32:16
Its got to be HBV valve
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Kaycee on 07 April 2009, 20:41:18
just  one point tho the mechanics at vauxhall dont have much experience with the omega now as its been finished since 2002/3 its a classic answer so you walk away as they dont want the job 2 years ago  i went to perrys in doncaster for a oill leak which i thought was  cam covers a friend did them first but was still leaking they said it was head gasket " if i was you sir ide  scap it " " we could do it but would cost £2000" not likely says i My friend had another go and lo and behold found leaking oil cooler pipe he charged me £20 was ok till i got rid of it for the elite Do not trust the stealers

Robert
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 07 April 2009, 20:47:19
Wayne, please check the oil level in your engine. ;) ;)

If it is between minimum and maximum then water is not cascading into the sump.  If the HG has perished on the side of a block, not only would water but also oil would be trickling / blowing out. ( But you have said nothing, as far as I can see, on losing oil as you would with a major HG failure).

If none of this applies, then it is looking more and more like the HBV or a water pipe that is causing the problem. ;)

I know you are in an depressed mood (often been there) but all of us who can will try and help you on here! :y :y
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Post by: Welung666 on 07 April 2009, 21:03:08
Tell you what Wayne, I'll give you £100 for it ;) :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: jemis on 07 April 2009, 21:07:32
Sure fire way to find out if your HG has failed is get a compression test done on each cylinder, if the the gasket has gone one or two will be lower than the rest. The water could be leaking into the cylinder there for no external leaks will be noticed and performance might not be affected however usually your car would suffer from poor idle.
The test the dealers are saying they have done is called a sniff test by most where they are checking for exhaust gases in the coolant.
Get the test done and then you will no for certain.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 21:23:00
There is some confusion on this thread. Perhaps Wayne could confirm my understanding of the symptoms:

Its not losing coolant
Its not losing oil
No Water in Oil
No oil in coolant
Temp gauge normal
Only issue is no heat in cabin
Heat comes in cabin when vac pipe controlling hbv is disconnected


A bit of insider info - I know there was a fault on this car where there is a constant vac to hbv last year.


Is that a fair conclusion of symptoms Wayne - sorry, I think there has been some confusion over the past 3 pages of posts?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 21:24:01
And BTW, I don't think your HG has failed going by the symptoms you have described :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 April 2009, 21:40:33
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just got off the phone from my mate who lives in my village, the guys a bleedin Legend for fixing cars, been on the phone for ages, he definately thinks its the head gasket because of this:

1: when i drove back from Nottingham on Saturday, i had no heat.... when i checked coolant level it was fine..

2: when i got up this morning, the coolant level had dropped from Maximum to Minimum, this surely indicates that its losing water and its mixing with the oil yes? indicating Gasket Failure

3: i have no leaks anywhere, so it MUST be going somewhere, if the coolant level is constantly low every morning, then surely this is a big problem?

he also said that you dont always get symptoms like sludge in the oil straight away and any performance problems, which im not getting either of


Well hes a tosser who knows nothing then.

a) You cant diagnose a head gasket failure based on symptoms over the phone!

b) If it was head gasket the coolant system would pressurise excessivly

c) The coolant loss would be much greaer and more consistent with poor running and miss fires when starting up.

There was an issue with the vacpipes it would appear.

The whole heating and cooling system is vac operated.

May I sudgest you stop the headless chicken mode and take a deep breath, stop the diagnosis based on hear say and 'legends'.

I suspect you have 2 problems

1) A vaccum issue

2) A coolant leak

It needs proper diagnosis.....not some willy nilly stabs in the dark
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 21:54:11
thanks everyone, and i apologise for shouting my mouth off

i just dont have a lot of money at the moment and im worried im going to have no vehicle

just went out in the car for 20 minutes, heat is working fine since i left that VAC Pipe off

ok,  i done a coolant check... it seems to be still at maximum from when i done a fresh coolant change earlier on today

i will get up in the morning and see if it has sunk from maximum to minimum....  i will let you all know
i had another look and still cant see ANY Leaks
my oil level is perfect, its not black black, but almost in between yellow and black, but none of that gunky crap
its not misfiring at all, she still flies!
though i did have a new RPM sensor fitted 2 weeks ago when the car failed to start at all, this cured it and she starts first time every time, even after being left for a week without using her, wouldnt do that before

Mark - are you FREE or would you look at my car for me?
i`m in Nottingham this Sunday, have to be at ROCK CITY for my gig at 4.30pm

meanwhile, i`m taking the car to be pressure tested by someone else to see if they CONFIRM what VX said, then i will know what's what, does that sound like the thing to do?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 April 2009, 21:57:13
I strongly suspect you have a buggered bypass valve.

This will leak under either a heat or cool setting so not when you cna really see it and will only happen occasionaly.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 April 2009, 21:58:23
Sadly Sunday is not good as I am not around (being easter sunday).

Pressure test will tell very little so not worth the effort unless they can spot the leak (it wont prove anything head gasket related)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 22:03:29
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thanks everyone, and i apologise for shouting my mouth off

i just dont have a lot of money at the moment and im worried im going to have no vehicle

just went out in the car for 20 minutes, heat is working fine since i left that VAC Pipe off

ok,  i done a coolant check... it seems to be still at maximum from when i done a fresh coolant change earlier on today

i will get up in the morning and see if it has sunk from maximum to minimum....  i will let you all know
i had another look and still cant see ANY Leaks
my oil level is perfect, its not black black, but almost in between yellow and black, but none of that gunky crap
its not misfiring at all, she still flies!
though i did have a new RPM sensor fitted 2 weeks ago when the car failed to start at all, this cured it and she starts first time every time, even after being left for a week without using her, wouldnt do that before

Mark - are you FREE or would you look at my car for me?
i`m in Nottingham this Sunday, have to be at ROCK CITY for my gig at 4.30pm

meanwhile, i`m taking the car to be pressure tested by someone else to see if they CONFIRM what VX said, then i will know what's what, does that sound like the thing to do?
don't bother, nothing suggests HG problem.

Ignore your vx dealer, and ignore your local mechanic - I suspect they are morons, sorry.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 22:03:56
Okay then

so in English for a Retard like me

WHY do i have heat when i disconnect this 1 Particular Vac Pipe and what do i need to replace to fix this problem and where should i take it?

and how do i definately make sure the head gasket hasnt gone, so that i can drive the car without worrying about driving it,  i have noticed that when the car is just sat there, the revs do idle a little bit, but i would say only very slightly, is that normal? or should it stay at a certain RPM and not move whatsoever?

and PLEASE PLEASE dont ask me to do any of this by myself, im a Musician, not any good with cars, never have been..
i would rather pay someone to do a good job so i dont have to worry, obviously this wont be bloody VX
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 22:10:51
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Okay then

so in English for a Retard like me

WHY do i have heat when i disconnect this 1 Particular Vac Pipe and what do i need to replace to fix this problem and where should i take it?

and how do i definately make sure the head gasket hasnt gone, so that i can drive the car without worrying about driving it,  i have noticed that when the car is just sat there, the revs do idle a little bit, but i would say only very slightly, is that normal? or should it stay at a certain RPM and not move whatsoever?
The purpose of that valve is not allow hot coolant into heater matrix, so cold air can be cold, rather than warmed, then cooled.  Hence its name - Heater Bypass Valve (HBV).  This is vac operated electronically from climate panel via a solenoid behind glovebox.

In your case, last year, we diagnosed a perment vacuum to the HBV, thus no hot coolant was going through heater matrix, thus no hot air in cabin.  Most likely cause is either some dodgy vac wiring dehind dash, or a faulty vac solenoid behind glovebox.

As previously said, ignore the idiot in the village, he should stick to his BMW Minis (I know of him)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 22:14:24
okay, so the heating thing is no big deal

but PLEASE in Lamens terms, how do i find out about my head gasket and if it has definately gone, thats all i would like to know so that i can keep driving my car, VX have scared the shit out of me, just dont wanna drive it to Nottingham this sunday and then back again, a round trip of 250 miles and break down on the way

where can i take the car to get this solenoid changed, or to sort this VAC Problem out? wanna make sure its getting done properly
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 22:17:43
[/quote]As previously said, ignore the idiot in the village, he should stick to his BMW Minis (I know of him)[/quote]

im not gonna argue on here, the guy does ALL Makes of cars, he is a Genuine mechanic, unlike others i have come across, he doesnt rip you off and charges a good price for the work he does..
he NEVER has cars go back with problems he hasnt sorted after he has done them
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: HCG on 07 April 2009, 22:22:23
Sorry, but this has got to be a wind up. Yearrr mhaann....
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Welung666 on 07 April 2009, 22:22:45
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okay, so the heating thing is no big deal

but PLEASE in Lamens terms, how do i find out about my head gasket and if it has definately gone, thats all i would like to know so that i can keep driving my car, VX have scared the shit out of me, just dont wanna drive it to Nottingham this sunday and then back again, a round trip of 250 miles and break down on the way

where can i take the car to get this solenoid changed, or to sort this VAC Problem out? wanna make sure its getting done properly

Stop off at mine on the way and I'll give you a hand to sort it out.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Welung666 on 07 April 2009, 22:25:12
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As previously said, ignore the idiot in the village, he should stick to his BMW Minis (I know of him)

im not gonna argue on here, the guy does ALL Makes of cars, he is a Genuine mechanic, unlike others i have come across, he doesnt rip you off and charges a good price for the work he does..
he NEVER has cars go back with problems he hasnt sorted after he has done them

Seriously though Wayne your mechanic has it wrong! These guys know their stuff (I.E. namely Omega's) I'd believe them over my regular MOT tester/mechanic!!!!
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 22:27:17
whereabouts are you mate?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 22:28:13
and HCG, what do you mean, this aint NO Wind Up!
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Welung666 on 07 April 2009, 22:29:01
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whereabouts are you mate?

Not far from juncs. 4, 3 and 2 on the M5.

[edit]Are you about in the daytime?[/edit]
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 22:30:58
yeah, as long as i get my Butt to Nottingham and be there by 4.30pm

im just worried about driving the car thats all, does knowbody understand that!   ::)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: psg150 on 07 April 2009, 22:31:19
Wayne - relax. I have had my share of issues with my meggy and it is rarely as expensive as it can look. My oil pump went last year, the AA and my local mechanic for local people diagnosed Head Gasket. Opinion on here was oil pump. I was bricking it - I couldn't afford to replace the car at the time - but the boys were right. £225 to fix by a different mechanic (who incidentally said HGs VERY RARELY go on Omegas..)

Trust.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 22:31:38
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okay, so the heating thing is no big deal

but PLEASE in Lamens terms, how do i find out about my head gasket and if it has definately gone, thats all i would like to know so that i can keep driving my car, VX have scared the shit out of me, just dont wanna drive it to Nottingham this sunday and then back again, a round trip of 250 miles and break down on the way

where can i take the car to get this solenoid changed, or to sort this VAC Problem out? wanna make sure its getting done properly
nothing has suggested a hg failure. dont worry about it.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: feeutfo on 07 April 2009, 22:32:12
Wayne. Its not a head gaskit problem from what you said. If you want to test anything look for water in the oil shown by white deposits(mayo, similar to that sometimes normally found on the inside of the oil filler cap/neck). Do this by pulling the oil dip stick out and visually check what the oil looks like. Anything from Gold(new oil) to black(old oil)in colour is fine.

If it has any white/grey/caramel colour in it, is thin and milkey, suspect Head Gaskit.



 You say you worried about cost yet your waisting money on a pressure test. The guy who told you the HG had failed was talking 'dangle berries'. He did not do a pressure test, from your description re "turning yellow", this is a sniffer test(for exhaust fumes) and is totally unreliable.


Have been thinking this from the start of your thread and agree with what everyone else is basically saying, that is your HG is fine. You would have other more serious issues if it had failed. Save your money for a new Heater by pass valve. Hth

Above sounds a bit shouty, not ment to be, just factual and to the best of my knowledge.  :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 22:32:55
I forgot to say, i only had my Water Pump replaced with a new one about 18 months ago
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Welung666 on 07 April 2009, 22:34:12
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yeah, as long as i get my Butt to Nottingham and be there by 4.30pm

im just worried about driving the car thats all, does knowbody understand that!   ::)

I meant during this week but hey ho. Just keep a regular check on your coolant level and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 22:34:30
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Wayne. Its not a head gaskit problem from what you said. If you want to test anything look for water in the oil shown by white deposits(mayo, similar to that sometimes normally found on the inside of the oil filler cap/neck). Do this by pulling the oil dip stick out and visually check what the oil looks like. Anything from Gold(new oil) to black(old oil)in colour is fine.

If it has any white/grey/caramel colour in it, is thin and milkey, suspect Head Gaskit.



 You say you worried about cost yet your waisting money on a pressure test. The guy who told you the HG had failed was talking 'dangle berries'. He did not do a pressure test, from your description re "turning yellow", this is a sniffer test(for exhaust fumes) and is totally unreliable.


Have been thinking this from the start of your thread and agree with what everyone else is basically saying, that is your HG is fine. You would have other more serious issues if it had failed. Save your money for a new Heater by pass valve. Hth

Above sounds a bit shouty, not ment to be, just factual and to the best of my knowledge.  :y

yeah, thanks for that, i didn't take it as being snappy, my oil is EXACTLY as you described  ;D
and i think it was a sniffer test! VX just told me that the mechanic done something and the colour turned yellow! whatever that meant!
all i know is that it cost me £29 !
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 22:38:14
i will keep my eye on the coolant level, if it keeps going down i will panic!

if i drive my car and it blows up, i will hunt you all down and kill you all!! JOKE!  :D

a new HBV costs? and the solenoid thingy for my heating costs?
where is the best place to get these 2 items from?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: HCG on 07 April 2009, 22:39:10
and HCG, what do you mean, this aint NO Wind Up!

Ok - then relax a bit - the guys on here will sort you out. VX MD's don't want people bringing 10 year old cars to them with a fault they can't "plug and play" and the last Omega was probably built 7 years ago. They usually guarantee repairs for 12 months so it's a big risk.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 22:40:27
oh i see, well my car is 10 years old, Grrrrrrrrrr   >:(

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: feeutfo on 07 April 2009, 22:41:26
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Sorry, but this has got to be a wind up. Yearrr mhaann....

Have met a few musicians now and worked on their cars, they,as a rule, know as much about fixing cars cars as i do about playing music. break all, much to my embarassment when in thier company. Just different brain wiring thats all.  ;)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 22:43:32
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Sorry, but this has got to be a wind up. Yearrr mhaann....

Have met a few musicians now and worked on their cars, they,as a rule, know as much about fixing cars cars as i do about playing music. break all, much to my embarassment when in thier company. Just different brain wiring thats all.  ;)

thats my whole point Chris!!  ;D

sorry to everyone, but i just aint as handy as any of you on here, i know some of you aren`t fully trained mechanics, and i do appreciate all your advice but i am totally SHITE with cars!
i almost had an orgasm when i managed to do my own coolant change! thats as far as im willing to go,  sorry!
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: RobG on 07 April 2009, 22:50:16
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Sorry, but this has got to be a wind up. Yearrr mhaann....

Have met a few musicians now and worked on their cars, they,as a rule, know as much about fixing cars cars as i do about playing music. break all, much to my embarassment when in thier company. Just different brain wiring thats all.  ;)

thats my whole point Chris!!  ;D

sorry to everyone, but i just aint as handy as any of you on here, i know some of you aren`t fully trained mechanics, and i do appreciate all your advice but i am totally SHITE with cars!
i almost had an orgasm when i managed to do my own coolant change! thats as far as im willing to go,  sorry!
So when all is fixed  (with help from here) you can relax and have multiple orgasms ;D :D
To quote my 8 year old son "Take a chill pill" Wayne.  ;)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: HCG on 07 April 2009, 22:52:07
Wayne - got any sisters?  ;)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: feeutfo on 07 April 2009, 22:52:48
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1) Anything from Gold(new oil) to black(old oil)in colour is fine.

2)If it has any white/grey/caramel colour in it, is thin and milkey, suspect Head Gaskit.

yeah, thanks for that, i didn't take it as being snappy, my oil is EXACTLY as you described  ;D
Just to be sure....
Which of the 2 descriptions mate? First one i hope?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: HCG on 07 April 2009, 22:53:33
Come to think about it - what's Mum like?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 22:55:30
HCG - Where do you live?
maybe i can pay you a vist and express my Kindness and Gratitude ey?   :-X
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Post by: HolyCount on 07 April 2009, 22:56:05
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Sorry, but this has got to be a wind up. Yearrr mhaann....

Have met a few musicians now and worked on their cars, they,as a rule, know as much about fixing cars cars as i do about playing music. break all, much to my embarassment when in thier company. Just different brain wiring thats all.  ;)

thats my whole point Chris!!  ;D

sorry to everyone, but i just aint as handy as any of you on here, i know some of you aren`t fully trained mechanics, and i do appreciate all your advice but i am totally SHITE with cars!
i almost had an orgasm when i managed to do my own coolant change! thats as far as im willing to go,  sorry!

Too much info there Wayne !  :D I, like you, cannot fathom cars, but the guys on here DO know their Omegas!  Unfortunatly I cannot fathom music either!! Am I beyond redemption?

I do know that HG failure on these is as common as rocking horse manure and even I was thinking HBV (I must have picked up something loitering around here!).

Main thing ... don't panic. Breathe deep and slow. And if you want to kill somebody ... nip over to the VX dealer  :y
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Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 22:56:46
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1) Anything from Gold(new oil) to black(old oil)in colour is fine.

2)If it has any white/grey/caramel colour in it, is thin and milkey, suspect Head Gaskit.

yeah, thanks for that, i didn't take it as being snappy, my oil is EXACTLY as you described  ;D
Just to be sure....
Which of the 2 descriptions mate? First one i hope?


my oil is Number 1 mate!!

how about tomorrow, i take a picture of it and show you all on here, dont laugh!!!!
wanna make sure im correct!
did any of you see my facebook pictures? did they work ok ?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 22:58:55
maybe its time to buy a Volvo V70 or a Ford Mondeo ST220 in Estate Form?  are they reliable?  ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: HCG on 07 April 2009, 23:00:24
maybe i can pay you a vist and express my Kindness and Gratitude ey?

FFS - tune in a bit - nobody here means any harm.
Stick with these guys; they are trying to help.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: RobG on 07 April 2009, 23:01:27
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1) Anything from Gold(new oil) to black(old oil)in colour is fine.

2)If it has any white/grey/caramel colour in it, is thin and milkey, suspect Head Gaskit.

yeah, thanks for that, i didn't take it as being snappy, my oil is EXACTLY as you described  ;D
Just to be sure....
Which of the 2 descriptions mate? First one i hope?


my oil is Number 1 mate!!

how about tomorrow, i take a picture of it and show you all on here, dont laugh!!!!
wanna make sure im correct!
did any of you see my facebook pictures? did they work ok ?
Nice looking Miggy Wayne. Too good to "die".  :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: miggcddave on 07 April 2009, 23:02:15
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maybe i can pay you a vist and express my Kindness and Gratitude ey?

FFS - tune in a bit - nobody here means any harm.
Stick with these guys; they are trying to help.
oohhh touched a nerve there mate ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: feeutfo on 07 April 2009, 23:02:36
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maybe i can pay you a vist and express my Kindness and Gratitude ey?

FFS - tune in a bit - nobody here means any harm.
Stick with these guys; they are trying to help.

A winde up per chance... ;D ;)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: HolyCount on 07 April 2009, 23:03:44
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maybe its time to buy a Volvo V70 or a Ford Mondeo ST220 in Estate Form?  are they reliable?  ha ha ha ha

When I ran a mobile disco in the 70's (I know ... "Keep Music Live" and al that  :) ) we ran around in ex Securicor transits --- got erm ... interesting at times, but always got us there and home again. Modern cars are a right royal fur lined pain in the derriere!
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: feeutfo on 07 April 2009, 23:04:53
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maybe its time to buy a Volvo V70 or a Ford Mondeo ST220 in Estate Form?  are they reliable?  ha ha ha ha

NO! ;D

And their "wiring" is far too boring for you....

on a serious note, neither of those two cars will do anywhere near the mileage of your omega. My father in laws C70 (same engine family) has 113k on it and has had 3 throttle bodys at 600 a pop and is now on my drive with auto box issues. I had a mondeo which was shagged out by 90k with buggered clutch and gear box.
Keep your omega.
Most people on here carry a spare crank sensor, esp if the car is still on its original, and an HBV is a good idea, stick em both in the boot, Mr green flag should be able to change them at the road side. ;)

In your immediate case i would also carry a good amount of coolant(ready mixed antifreeze or what ever is the same colour as whats in the bottle now)only use water as last resort/emergency.

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: HCG on 07 April 2009, 23:05:59
Do you think so?
Not so sure. Wrong attitude. Banter? Que?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 23:07:26
HCG   - got ya!

i want you all the my Rock City gig in Nottingham this sunday!
while im on stage playing to 3000 punters, you can all fix my car for me  ;D

deal or NO Deal?   :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: HCG on 07 April 2009, 23:11:55
Ha,  8-)  Ok, as long as you are more RELAXED.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 23:14:29
So guys, tell me more about this crappy so called sniffer test that VX done on my car today and then told me The Lies,  why the hell when i took it in for the heating problem would the mechanic even plug it in to tell me the HG Problem

and YES, i will be going there when i find out its not the HG i can assure you! i intend to be VERY Loud in the main reception

they cant be allowed to get away with this bullshit
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Andy B on 07 April 2009, 23:22:40
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a new HBV costs?  ......

About £30 and an to fit it.  :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 07 April 2009, 23:23:00
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So guys, tell me more about this crappy so called sniffer test that VX done on my car today and then told me The Lies,  why the hell when i took it in for the heating problem would the mechanic even plug it in to tell me the HG Problem

and YES, i will be going there when i find out its not the HG i can assure you! i intend to be VERY Loud in the main reception

they cant be allowed to get away with this bullshit

Because they don't know..... they aren't proper Mechanics.
Being fair Wayne, I have just read this thread all through and if you had this problem last year why didn't you get it fixed then?
If you have had no warmth in your car for a year what suddenly made you think it was the Head Gasket?
Also you have had loads of people giving you correct information and it seems you don't believe them? if your mate is a Legend Mechanic why not go and tell him what the replies have been and see if he can do it for you? :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 23:28:14
because the heating has been fine since then, its only suddenly started playing up..

i never even wanted to think about Head Gasket, i only added it on here because of what VX said, that's what freaked me out, if they hadn't have told me i wouldn't have stressed out about the HG
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 07 April 2009, 23:34:45
I can understand you getting stressed at the thought of the head gasket going it is an expensive job wherever you take it. But from what you have explained you don't seem to have that problem. :y
The idea behind this forum is that when people have problems there are people on here willing to give excellent information for free, even how to's etc so you will be able to have ago yourself. I know you are saying that you no nothing about cars but there a hell of a lot of us that are in the same boat as yourself who have tried, then come back on here saying what they have done, or that they can't do such a thing, got the info they needed and gone out and done it saving theirselves a small fortune, and a sense of well being.
This is what makes this Forum such a Great one mate  :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: feeutfo on 07 April 2009, 23:35:02
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maybe its time to buy a Volvo V70 or a Ford Mondeo ST220 in Estate Form?  are they reliable?  ha ha ha ha

NO! ;D

And their "wiring" is far too boring for you....

on a serious note, neither of those two cars will do anywhere near the mileage of your omega. My father in laws C70 (same engine family) has 113k on it and has had 3 throttle bodys at 600 a pop and is now on my drive with auto box issues. I had a mondeo which was shagged out by 90k with buggered clutch and gear box.
Keep your omega.
Most people on here carry a spare crank sensor, esp if the car is still on its original, and an HBV is a good idea, stick em both in the boot, Mr green flag should be able to change them at the road side. ;)

In your immediate case i would also carry a good amount of coolant(ready mixed antifreeze or what ever is the same colour as whats in the bottle now)only use water as last resort/emergency.

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 08 April 2009, 07:42:17
morning!

i forgot to ask, is that sniffer test the same as a pressure test?
when the receptionsit came out with her "bit of paper" she said the so called mechanic at VX had pressure tested it and water was going into the oil..... then she said it showed yellow,  confused? i am!   >:(

have a good day
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Welung666 on 08 April 2009, 07:45:55
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morning!

i forgot to ask, is that sniffer test the same as a pressure test?
when the receptionsit came out with her "bit of paper" she said the so called mechanic at VX had pressure tested it and water was going into the oil..... then she said it showed yellow,  confused? i am!   >:(

have a good day

Sniffer tests and pressure tests are 2 different ends of a stick matey. Sniffer tests are the proverbial chocolate fireguard. Pressure tests can be useful for finding very hard to find leaks in the cooling system but don't always work. Like I said earlier if you get up this way durning the daytime then stop by mine and I'll have a gander ;) :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 08 April 2009, 07:51:58
Okay buddy, thanks

must have been pressure tested then, that's what she said.. but glad that it doesn't mean for definate that my HG has gone

off to work now, ooooooooh i cant wait!

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: stuart30 on 08 April 2009, 07:57:57
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Wayne. STOP NOW.
You drama queen ;D

TB best becarefull he might get ""shot through the heart"" then he would be "living on a prayer"" and poor old wayne would be ""wanted dead or alive"". ;D

Right back too mien kamp  :-X

Oh regards garages doing head gasket tests...last car i had tested was ""without doubt 100% deffinetely head gasket sir....stake my reputation on it"" or so the garage owner said.

Odd how it turned out too be no gearbox oil/engine oil over filled..... :o

Don't trust these garages simple.!
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 08 April 2009, 08:01:53
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

funny though! i did LARF !!!  lol
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 April 2009, 08:04:01
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As previously said, ignore the idiot in the village, he should stick to his BMW Minis (I know of him)[/quote]

im not gonna argue on here, the guy does ALL Makes of cars, he is a Genuine mechanic, unlike others i have come across, he doesnt rip you off and charges a good price for the work he does..
he NEVER has cars go back with problems he hasnt sorted after he has done them[/quote]

Yes, but hes clearly pretty shite as he cant make a basic accurate diag.

I for one will not be commenting on this thread any longer as you have been told a shite load of times its not head gasket yet headless chicken mode continues!


Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Pitchfork on 08 April 2009, 11:45:29
I too am a musician & replaced my sucession of Volvo V70s with the Omega Estate because it has more load space & the PA just keeps getting bigger!
Arrive at a gig & people cannot beleive that all of that kit came out of 1 car. I use a VX steel dog-guard to prevent it from taking my head off under heavy braking BTW :)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 08 April 2009, 13:54:52
looks i have upset Mark, sorry mate!
im not running round like a headless chicken now! honest!

i bought some VX Red Coolant today and topped my car up this morning, it had dropped down about quarter of a pint, slightly more, no leaks anywhere..... maybe it was just settling itself from when i done the coolant change yesterday?
also topped up the oil with some 10W 40
put about 3 quarters of a litre in it

i also took some pics of the oil filler and cap, no sludge as you can see
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6414349&l=8784f1c8d8&id=623190360

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6414350&id=623190360

and i also took picture of the dipstick and the oil that's on it, i think this is Normal??  yes it is a bit black, lol
or is this the "gunk" you all mean?

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6414351&id=623190360

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6414353&l=969d144209&id=623190360


Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Welung666 on 08 April 2009, 13:57:36
Can't see the pics mate.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: smoothomega on 08 April 2009, 14:00:22
I think you may well be going back to the stealers now wayne for you problems to be sorted, still this thread has helped your post count far more than it has helped you understand that people on here were trying to help you, good luck  ;D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 08 April 2009, 14:09:37
i wont be going back to the stealers mate, have no intention of doing anything to my car, just gonna drive it and top up the coolant until it goes bang
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Welung666 on 08 April 2009, 14:12:19
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i wont be going back to the stealers mate, have no intention of doing anything to my car, just gonna drive it and top up the coolant until it goes bang

Well I've offered to help twice now as I'm 90% certain I know what it is, but hey ho  :-?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: omegadti on 08 April 2009, 15:40:17
I had my dti serviced at "stealers" at 40k, went back the next day to complain about low oil level and they told me I had a faulty engine that was not covered under warranty and would cost £2k to fix - I put a pint of oil in and it was fine!!!!

moral of the story - do not go to main dealers for anything!!!!!
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 April 2009, 16:17:58
Right.....well lets consider a headgasket setup ala this:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b394/Marks_DTM_Calib/Headinfocoloured.jpg)

Which is a V6 head.

Blue - Water cooling jacket - will be at pressure
Brown - Oil return to block - kept at a slight avccum thanks to the engine breather system setup
Red - Oil feed - High pressure.

So, under a head gasket failure we can get a few scenarios.

A) Failed fire rings. This results in exhaust gases in the coolant and major pressurisation plus coolant being pulled into the bore on the inlet stroke.. When turned off, the cylinder pressure drops to atmospheric water (which remain at pressure for some time) will enter the bore. Classic symptoms are miss fires when starting.

B) Failure of the coolant jacket. This results in either a coolant leak external to the block (seen on some V6 engines) or water in the oil (very unusual on the V6 due to the small aand confined areas of the oil returns)

C) Failure of the gasket around the high pressure oil feed. This can result ina  ajor external oil leak (rare) or possibly oil in the water (also very rare). Thsi failure is  unheard of on the V6!


Your symptoms are coolant loss and a non working heater.

The latter we already know is due to a vaccum issue somewhere.

The coolant loss is the one that needs tracking down....it could be a number of things.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 08 April 2009, 16:59:54
Mark - thanks for that mate

im beginning to calm down and not panic after your above posting
i`m now ignoring the VX Basturds!
i just need to run my engine hot and see if i have any leaks, i dont have any ramps to jack it up high enough to see...
i topped up today with more red stuff, will drive her tonight for 10 miles and then look in the morning to see if its gone down again...
even if i have to climb underneath her withour ramps, then so be it

Welung 6666
i haven't forgot mate!
are you free this Friday or Saturday?
i would really appreciate your help !
we gonna do the solenoid vac thingy?

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: VX1 on 08 April 2009, 20:02:38
Wayne................................

[size=24]DO NOT LISTEN TO OR TAKE YOU CAR TO THE DEALERS AS THEY TALK ALOAD OF SHITE. YOUR HEADGASKET IS NOT THE PROBLEM. YOU HAVE A SLIGHT WATER LEAK WHICH NEEDS SORTING. YOUR HEATING PROBLEM IS TO DO WITH YOUR VACUUM SET UP I.E  THE VACUUM PIPES ARE THE WRONG WAY ROUND. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LISTEN TO WHAT THE GUYS ON HERE STATE, THEY KNOW THE OMEGAS INSIDE OUT. YOU HAVE A PROBLEM THEY WILL HELP YOU TO SORT IT OUT. ALWAYS PUT YOUR PROBLEMS THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOUR MIG ON HERE FIRST.[/size]

Sorry to all the others members on here for shouting but I beleive this is the only way that Wayne will take note of what we all are saying.

Paul :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 April 2009, 20:04:01
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Wayne................................

[size=24]DO NOT LISTEN TO OR TAKE YOU CAR TO THE DEALERS AS THEY TALK ALOAD OF SHITE. YOUR HEADGASKET IS NOT THE PROBLEM. YOU HAVE A SLIGHT WATER LEAK WHICH NEEDS SORTING. YOUR HEATING PROBLEM IS TO DO WITH YOUR VACUUM SET UP I.E  THE VACUUM PIPES ARE THE WRONG WAY ROUND. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LISTEN TO WHAT THE GUYS ON HERE STATE, THEY KNOW THE OMEGAS INSIDE OUT. YOU HAVE A PROBLEM THEY WILL HELP YOU TO SORT IT OUT. ALWAYS PUT YOUR PROBLEMS THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOUR MIG ON HERE FIRST.[/size]

Sorry to all the others members on here for shouting but I beleive this is the only way that Wayne will take note of what we all are saying.

Paul :y

Fear not, we are now on the same wave length  :y :y

Wayne has seen the light  :y :y ;)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Welung666 on 08 April 2009, 20:09:16
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Mark - thanks for that mate

im beginning to calm down and not panic after your above posting
i`m now ignoring the VX Basturds!
i just need to run my engine hot and see if i have any leaks, i dont have any ramps to jack it up high enough to see...
i topped up today with more red stuff, will drive her tonight for 10 miles and then look in the morning to see if its gone down again...
even if i have to climb underneath her withour ramps, then so be it

Welung 6666
i haven't forgot mate!
are you free this Friday or Saturday?
i would really appreciate your help !
we gonna do the solenoid vac thingy?



I should be OK for Friday, I'll have to find out off TB what the Vac solenoid problem was first though.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 April 2009, 20:10:56
What spec is waynes car, does it have climate?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 20:15:56
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What spec is waynes car, does it have climate?
It was last summer I saw it, pretty certain it does, so must be CDX (its not an Elite). Assuming, of course, I'm thinking of the same car (gold minifacelift estate)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Cameron on 08 April 2009, 20:45:48
If I had to guess, I'd hazard the HBV is leaking once the engine has been switched off after a trip.  By the time morning comes round the coolant/water has evaporated or blended into the ground, showing no spillage.

Just my 2p. ;)

(change the HBV)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: HCG on 08 April 2009, 22:08:46
FFS - tune in a bit - nobody here means any harm.
Stick with these guys; they are trying to help.


Are you more relaxed now, Wayne?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 08 April 2009, 22:15:39
sorry chaps!

been on me Piano trying to learn 40 damn songs for my new band!
i give up after 25!

and YES im very relaxed now, i have calmed down to ZERO Stress Level

right, my car is a 1998 S Registration 2.5 V6 CDX Estate in a Lovely Gold Colour  :D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 08 April 2009, 22:17:04
i got some cash ready for the Vac Solenoid and the HBV and some cash if someone can do it, i will help !!!!  :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: feeutfo on 08 April 2009, 23:18:15
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i got some cash ready for the Vac Solenoid and the HBV and some cash if someone can do it, i will help !!!!  :y

Do you think thats wise mate? ;D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 08 April 2009, 23:23:22
probably not! i agree!!  ha ha ha
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Robski on 08 April 2009, 23:30:04
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I can understand you getting stressed at the thought of the head gasket going it is an expensive job wherever you take it. But from what you have explained you don't seem to have that problem. :y
The idea behind this forum is that when people have problems there are people on here willing to give excellent information for free, even how to's etc so you will be able to have ago yourself. I know you are saying that you no nothing about cars but there a hell of a lot of us that are in the same boat as yourself who have tried, then come back on here saying what they have done, or that they can't do such a thing, got the info they needed and gone out and done it saving theirselves a small fortune, and a sense of well being.
This is what makes this Forum such a Great one mate  :y
I for 1 can confirm this,but did have to watch daz a few times to find where things are,just had my EGR off today and gave it a clean as my EML was on,put the EGR back on and the EML went out,and I got the info of what to do off people on here,think Id take advice off here 1st mate and keep well clear of VX dealerships.Only been on here 2/3 weeks with no knowledge of cars myself and now know how to top up gearbox,clean vital parts etc.Stick with these guys Wayne they know there stuff :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 09 April 2009, 08:03:55
[size=22]I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT !!!

I WILL NEVER TRUST VAUXHALL AGAIN, APART FROM BUYING THE RED STUFF FROM THEM!!!

BUNCH OF LYING TOSSERS!!

HEAD GASKET MY ASS !!!

I MUST GO TO WORK NOW, JUST INCASE I SPROUT WINGS AND FLY OFF SOMEWHERE IN A CLOUD OF JOY  ;D[/size]
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: bigdods on 09 April 2009, 09:04:06
This thread is the stuff of legends !

Have you checked the head gasket to see if its ok ?  ::)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: sidewaysmv6 on 09 April 2009, 10:25:43
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This thread is the stuff of legends !

Have you checked the head gasket to see if its ok ?
ffs dont start!!
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: ians on 09 April 2009, 11:01:33
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[size=22]I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT !!!

I WILL NEVER TRUST VAUXHALL AGAIN, APART FROM BUYING THE RED STUFF FROM THEM!!!

BUNCH OF LYING TOSSERS!!

HEAD GASKET MY ASS !!!

I MUST GO TO WORK NOW, JUST INCASE I SPROUT WINGS AND FLY OFF SOMEWHERE IN A CLOUD OF JOY  ;D[/size]

blimey - sounds like you've got religion too.. ::)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Cybertrucker on 09 April 2009, 11:52:21
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blimey - sounds like you've got religion too.. ::)

And lo, it came to pass that there was a blight upon the face of the Earth, and its name was Vauxhall, whose demons spread alarm and despondency among men, saying "Your head gasket has gone, for there is yellow stuff in your red stuff, that's 29 pounds please, thankyou."  Then there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth of one who made music.

But a great light shone forth in the name of OOF, whose ministering angels said "Be not afraid, musicman, for there is no fault with your head gasket.  Put your trust in us and we shall solve your problems", and a great calm fell upon the musician.  The Vauxhall demons, hearing this, were much abashed, saying "Who are these angels, who know so much more of Vauxhalls than we, the anointed ones?"  And they removed their heads from their bottoms and ran off.

Here endeth today's lesson.

 ;D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 April 2009, 11:59:24
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blimey - sounds like you've got religion too.. ::)

And lo, it came to pass that there was a blight upon the face of the Earth, and its name was Vauxhall the modern useless mechanic, whose demons spread alarm and despondency among men, saying "Your head gasket has gone, for there is yellow stuff in your red stuff, that's 29 pounds please, thankyou."  Then there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth of one who made music.

But a great light shone forth in the name of OOF, whose ministering angels said "Be not afraid, musicman, for there is no fault with your head gasket.  Put your trust in us and we shall solve your problems", and a great calm fell upon the musician.  The Vauxhall modern useless mechanic demons, hearing this, were much abashed, saying "Who are these angels, who know so much more of Vauxhalls the basics of how a modern engien works than we, the anointed ones?"  And they removed their heads from their bottoms and ran off.

Here endeth today's lesson.

 ;D


Corrected....... ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: albitz on 09 April 2009, 12:21:21
I would be tempted to ask the stealer for the HG diagnosis in writng,if they are daft enough to do this then go to town on them.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: ians on 09 April 2009, 12:29:23
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Quote
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blimey - sounds like you've got religion too.. ::)

And lo, it came to pass that there was a blight upon the face of the Earth, and its name was Vauxhall the modern useless mechanic, whose demons spread alarm and despondency among men, saying "Your head gasket has gone, for there is yellow stuff in your red stuff, that's 29 pounds please, thankyou."  Then there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth of one who made music.

But a great light shone forth in the name of OOF, whose ministering angels said "Be not afraid, musicman, for there is no fault with your head gasket.  Put your trust in us and we shall solve your problems", and a great calm fell upon the musician.  The Vauxhall modern useless mechanic demons, hearing this, were much abashed, saying "Who are these angels, who know so much more of Vauxhalls the basics of how a modern engien works than we, the anointed ones?"  And they removed their heads from their bottoms and ran off.

Here endeth today's lesson.

 ;D


Corrected....... ;D ;D ;D ;D

Excellent ;D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 09 April 2009, 14:33:40
I was having me break today in a layby, checking me postings on this Forum, i haven't Laughed so much for Bloody Ages! LOL

anyway, just out of interest, did my damn Facebook Pictures work for all of you? it showed my horrid oil and dipstick etc

let me know what you think of it,  and YES i know ! my Head Gasket is fine!   ;D

im very much looking forward to shoving the Solenoid in and fixing me leaky bits, ooo er Missus!
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: ians on 09 April 2009, 14:39:27
I could only see the last one (pic of the dipstick, indicating you need an oil change ;))
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 09 April 2009, 14:44:48
Lol, yes, oil has zero signs of headgasket failure but shows need of a change.

I can also tell that you either dont do short journeys or hav recently done a good long journey.

At least you have a proper gearbox (and not one with the internal workings of a black and decker cordless screwdriver!)

I should add, the method you have used to get heat is not good, you have disconnected the main vac feed to the cabin and multirams.

This will mean:

No direction control of the heater settings
No multiram operation which kills low down torque and mpg

You should disconnect the pipe from the top of the bypass valve and block it off as the temporary fix!

Right so:

1) When did the heating pack up?

2) When did the coolant loss start?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: NiallyV6CDX on 09 April 2009, 14:57:06
I think your heating problem could just be an air lock in the system somewhere. the exact same thing happened on my old 328i a few years back. The solution was this.
1. Turn on engine, set heating to maximum heat, turn engine off.
2. Drain cooling system
3. Refill cooling system with fresh coolant
4. Squeeze the top and bottom radiator hozez (with expansion tank cap OFF) until no more bubbles come up.

Problem solved!!!

Have you tried replacing the coolant yet?

As for the head gasket, if there is no "mayonaise" in the oil filler cap, dipstick or coolant expansion tank, your head gaskets are fine.
How is the engine running generally (poor heating aside)?

Regards, Niall
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Andy B on 09 April 2009, 15:21:08
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.....

And lo, it came to pass that there was a blight upon the face of the Earth, and its name was Vauxhall, whose demons spread alarm and despondency among men, saying "Your head gasket has gone, for there is yellow stuff in your red stuff, that's 29 pounds please, thankyou."  Then there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth of one who made music.

But a great light shone forth in the name of OOF, whose ministering angels said "Be not afraid, musicman, for there is no fault with your head gasket.  Put your trust in us and we shall solve your problems", and a great calm fell upon the musician.  The Vauxhall demons, hearing this, were much abashed, saying "Who are these angels, who know so much more of Vauxhalls than we, the anointed ones?"  And they removed their heads from their bottoms and ran off.

Here endeth today's lesson.

 ;D

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D Brilliant!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 09 April 2009, 16:46:35
hi again, well i got to be honest, i only ever do short journeys in my car, a distance of between 5 - 20 miles max, i use the car on about 2 days of the week, sometimes i dont even use it for a good 7 days as im normally travelling in my big iveco van to our gigs, so no need for my car.  

Mark, how did you know about my long journey? Your right!
Last saturday, i drove 250 miles in total, so it had a good run i guess?   The heating problem started about 3 weeks before "the boy" looked at it to say about the vac solenoid problem, not sure when that was exactly,  
i only noticed the coolant problem on Tuesday when i set off to vauxhall, up came "coolant low" on my dashboard, never seen that before ever, but have to be brutally honest, i dont check these things when i should!   There wasnt any coolant loss when i was on my way back from nottingham on saturday, though the engine was warmed up, if that makes a difference?  
I have noticed since taking that pipe off, that my car doesnt seem as nippy
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: TheBoy on 09 April 2009, 18:48:43
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blimey - sounds like you've got religion too.. ::)

And lo, it came to pass that there was a blight upon the face of the Earth, and its name was Vauxhall the modern useless mechanic, whose demons spread alarm and despondency among men, saying "Your head gasket has gone, for there is yellow stuff in your red stuff, that's 29 pounds please, thankyou."  Then there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth of one who made music.

But a great light shone forth in the name of OOF, whose ministering angels said "Be not afraid, musicman, for there is no fault with your head gasket.  Put your trust in us and we shall solve your problems", and a great calm fell upon the musician.  The Vauxhall modern useless mechanic demons, hearing this, were much abashed, saying "Who are these angels, who know so much more of Vauxhalls the basics of how a modern engien works than we, the anointed ones?"  And they removed their heads from their bottoms and ran off.

Here endeth today's lesson.

 ;D


Corrected....... ;D ;D ;D ;D
around here, vauxhall 'mechanics' do seem to be the worse of the lot (or vx cars are more unreliable)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 09 April 2009, 19:36:05
don't all ask me why i did this!
but.... should the oil filler cap and the inside where you pour the oil smell slightly of "petrol"  not much, but ever so slightly,  ::)

i just been outside since i added more coolant yesterday and the level hasnt dropped at all, then again i havent driven it since Tuesday night..
guess that would make a difference to the levels anyway  :)

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: TheBoy on 09 April 2009, 19:45:47
will be a slight fume smell
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 09 April 2009, 19:46:16
.......phew!!!   ha ha ha
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Goonybird on 09 April 2009, 20:42:16
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[size=22]I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT !!!

I WILL NEVER TRUST VAUXHALL AGAIN, APART FROM BUYING THE RED STUFF FROM THEM!!!

BUNCH OF LYING TOSSERS!!

HEAD GASKET MY ASS !!!

I MUST GO TO WORK NOW, JUST INCASE I SPROUT WINGS AND FLY OFF SOMEWHERE IN A CLOUD OF JOY  ;D[/size]


That the lyrics to a new song of yours?  ::)  to the new red bull ad? :D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 09 April 2009, 20:51:07
i have written my own songs, but i have to play this stuff to earn a living, you can see me on me keyboards worrying about IF me head gasket has gone!! he he he he

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Waynester1973&view=videos

oh, and before you ask the bloke playing Guitar with the big arms is my brother! lol

if any of you are FREE This Sunday and live near Nottingham, im doing a gig with another band to raise money for a little boy who sadly passed away last year with Leukaemia, its his Charity event to raise money for a good cause..

its at Rock City in Nottingham, £10 to get in
doors open at 5pm

The Julie Cotton Foundation Proudly Present:
Concert For Life
Bands Performing are as follows

Blaze of Glory (me playing in this band)
Sam Beeton
Modfathers
Baggy Trousers
Confetti Battle of the Bands Winner
Pistola Kicks
Resistance 77
Silent Film Project
Basketcase
Against Spoken Words
Jo Strange
The Phonics

http://www.rock-city.co.uk/new_site/gigs.htm

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: albitz on 09 April 2009, 21:28:15
just watched some of the videos,excellent. :y :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: djm1964 on 09 April 2009, 23:01:29
Your band sounds really tight , great sound , well done

Take care

Dave :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Ian_D on 10 April 2009, 00:58:00
Fantastic band mate!  :y

Like everyone else has said, it doesn't sound like you head gasket at all.

Heater problem sounds like the HBV is always on. Should be an easyish fix.

As for the water leak. My V6 sometimes leaks a small amount of water, I just check it every few weeks, and maybe stick a cup full of antifreeze in if needed. I've never found the leak, and 'think' its leaking from the oil cooler cover plate, its a bit fiddly to get to, so i've left it for now.  ;D My guess is yours could be a similar kind of leak. Basically, the speed which mine leaks, the water just evaporates without trace!  ;D (Must admit, it seems to have sealed itself at the moment!  ::))
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 10 April 2009, 12:56:37
i posted a question on Yahoo before i posted on here, yes!  silly i know!

some geezer just posted this, but i didn't listen because i know you guys know what your talking about!



Wayne

the heating issue is No relation to your head gasket
(unless Vauxhall has some strange scheme going on no one else does - not likely!).
Heat comes from hot coolant from your motor going through a heater core which is where your hot air comes from. No heat means your controls are buggered (the control cable is broken or heater valve is broke or something) or your heater core is clogged or the hoses from your motor to the heater core are pinched or something. NOT your head gasket.

Head gasket problems will give you -
(1) Sludgy Milky Oil.
(2) Bubbles in your radiator - open the cap, unexplained bubbles are a sign (and a good shop can use a sensor to see if it's exhaust gas).
(3) Steam or smoke out the tailpipe.
(4) Missing on one (or more) cylinder.
(5) Hard starting.
(6) oil or water leakage from the head/block separation line down the side (or front or back) of your motor. But NOT cold air from the heater.

Find another shop. And always ASK how they know what the problem is. A good mechanic will tell you. A bad one won't.
Further, ask to have (or at least see) the old parts - so you can see that there *was* a blown gasket (and not one he tore to look blown - you can tell!) and that it confirms the symptom.

BTW - General Motors products *do* have a history of bad head gasket (and head warpage) problems *if* the car was overheated.
So, you *might* have a bad head gasket, but it's NOT related to your heater. Get a second (or 3rd) opinion!! Good luck!
Source(s):
30+ years as a mechanic.


Wayne

The vacuum hose you refer to (I guess), is the control to the three way plastic valve behind the engine. By removing it, you have now allowed the valve to let water through to the matrix.

The V6's do tend to leak a small amount of water from the heads after large mileage which isn't necessarily serious but I'm betting they did a block test to lead them to their diagnosis.
This involves "sniffing" the coolant with a certain liquid that turns from blue to green/yellow when it picks up combustion gases in the water. This is pretty much clear cut and they would be 100% right to assume one or both head gaskets have failed, sorry!
If so, you'll be getting excess pressure by now in the coolant bottle (pressurised after only a minute when started from cold).
Are you losing much water, if any?
They can suffer with leaks from the coolant bridge sealing washers (under the inlet manifold/plenum chamber).

If you have a head gasket failure, it's time to work out whether or not the car is worth repairing because it is a huge job. In fact it is probably easier on the Omega to remove the motor and do it. If you're happy to top it up regularly, you might be better off using it until it gives up altogether.



WHAT A LOAD OF OLD BALLS!

i`m off out in me car now, happy driving!  lol
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 13 April 2009, 21:30:22
just come back from Nottingham, another 230 miles covered in me car

have to check coolant every morning, i am finding i`m needing to top it up about 3 inches per day.. did it this morning when i left Travelodge before i headed back to Oxford

she still drives fine, though doesn't feel as nippy as normal..
probably as i had half a music shop in the back of it! lol

if i have this leak, i was thinking of trying some "Wynns" product in the coolant tank to close the leak, if this stuff actually works?



Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: webby23 on 13 April 2009, 21:40:36
I think Wynns type stuff does work mate, but dont expect it to plug a big hole in the system cos it wont !!!

Worth a crack anyway.......

 :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 13 April 2009, 21:53:46
yeah, thought its worth a try, better than nothing, or should i try the stuff by a company called FORTE?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: tmx on 13 April 2009, 21:54:36
the HBV has been changed aswell then?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 13 April 2009, 22:08:55
not yet matey, i thought it might be a cracked pipe somewhere in the coolant system, which i cant see, EVEN when i get underneath the front of the car
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: feeutfo on 13 April 2009, 22:25:20
3 inches a day is alot. It may not work. Stop leak formulas are last resort as there is a risk of blocking your coolent system, esp if there is another problem you dont know about, like if someone has run it on water in the past and its a bit furred up.

Change the hbv, or gets it changed and go from there. There are other possible areas that can leak but the hbv is most common, easiest and cheapest option. If a stop leak was the best option we would all telling you to do that instead. We're not.

Change the Hbv mate. :-)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 13 April 2009, 22:30:59
I was gonna drive up to someones house on here, but i forgot who it was, lol

they were gonna help me do the vac solenoid and HBV

would the coolant loss be because of the HBV then matey?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 13 April 2009, 22:35:24
okay, now i`m VERY scared, i`m not going to even attempt this on my own

http://www.cavweb-forums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=89567


Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: feeutfo on 13 April 2009, 23:12:00
Wayne. Ffs calm down. Why didnt you ask on here how to change it?
Thats a very long winded version. You only need remove the scuttle imho. The rest is a battle with a pair of molegrips or pliers or what ever you have.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: ali on 14 April 2009, 08:17:42
Just read all 11 pages on this topic as I had the same problem, except my heater now doesnt work at all! It worked on and off for months and I did nothing except put a coat on when drining. Ive paid the price and it died just before the snow came. My car is the same year and model, Ive learnt loads by reading all this. I will ask my question in a new topic.  Im a newbie!!! I cant help with anything technical but hope you get it sorted soon x
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: ians on 14 April 2009, 11:51:59
I don't think that Wynns, Radweld etc will help at all if it is the HBV (or assiociated hose ) that is leaking.   Did you try shining a torch on it.  Should be prettty obvious if it has been leaking - you'll see brownish deposits.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: HCG on 14 April 2009, 22:20:46
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I was gonna drive up to someones house on here, but i forgot who it was, lol

they were gonna help me do the vac solenoid and HBV

would the coolant loss be because of the HBV then matey?
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Yep - it's a wind up!

No one could be so daft!
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Ian_D on 14 April 2009, 22:32:40
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I was gonna drive up to someones house on here, but i forgot who it was, lol

they were gonna help me do the vac solenoid and HBV

would the coolant loss be because of the HBV then matey?
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Yep - it's a wind up!

No one could be so daft!
Dont set him off again!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: HCG on 14 April 2009, 22:40:47
My money is on ......................



hairdresser.  :-*
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: GG on 14 April 2009, 22:59:28
To me it seems simple he just need some hands on help. He is lost. Like me his knowledge of this sort of thing is close to zero.  :)

If someone is willing and can help him rather than keep posting they should P.M. him and give him a hand  :y

No offense meant, but those of us who have limited mechanical knowledge need as much help as we can get, I have spent a fortune on mechanics because of my lack of knowledge, despite lots of willing help on posts  :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: dbug on 14 April 2009, 23:25:33
FFS - What a DramaQueen!!!!!!

Advice on here is to change HBV - just change it and don't go on for 12 rather pages >:(

If you ask for advice - take it when given.  My advice is sell your Omega and buy a push bike ;)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: GG on 14 April 2009, 23:43:28
or may be a nice kia (uuurrgghh) with a nice warranty.  :o :( >:( :-[

For me I am not the best with mechanics and the guides often lose my poor tech ability, but I love my miggy so I pay fair minded mechanics (never vauxhall) to sort it out for me.

Many jobs exceed my poor ability, it is not lack of willing, but I am dyslexic and find guides really difficult to follow  :-[, but I learn really well when shown  :-/, sorry but true  :)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 14 April 2009, 23:44:51
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

i was gonna start but im truly too tired to bother

YES, i will be changing the HBV, somehow! not me! and NOT Vauxhall!
if it still leaks, then i will be back!
i did smell anti-freeze the other day, while i was sat in the car, still cant find any leaks anywhere

and i aint no Drama Queen! dont sit and read 12 pages of it if you have better things to do! lol

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: GG on 14 April 2009, 23:44:57
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or may be a nice kia (uuurrgghh) with a nice warranty.  :o :( >:( :-[

For me I am not the best with mechanics and the guides often lose my poor tech ability, but I love my miggy so I pay fair minded mechanics (never vauxhall) to sort it out for me.

Many jobs exceed my poor ability, it is not lack of willing, but I am dyslexic and find guides really difficult to follow  :-[, but I learn really well when shown  :-/, sorry but true  :)


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Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: GG on 14 April 2009, 23:46:00
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


to what ???
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Ian_D on 14 April 2009, 23:53:52
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FFS - What a DramaQueen!!!!!!

Advice on here is to change HBV - just change it and don't go on for 12 rather pages >:(

If you ask for advice - take it when given.  My advice is sell your Omega and buy a push bike ;)
To be honest, Ive been thinking the same for a long time!

I know that cars can be scary things if you dont know what your doing, but if he wont listen to the advice or take his car to a member on here etc, then what more can we do :-?

But at least we tried our best (Over and Over and OVER again...)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 14 April 2009, 23:55:57
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FFS - What a DramaQueen!!!!!!

Advice on here is to change HBV - just change it and don't go on for 12 rather pages >:(

If you ask for advice - take it when given.  My advice is sell your Omega and buy a push bike ;)


i got a push bike, probably worth more than my Omega!

who said i wasn't taking anyones advice!

get off your high horse
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Ian_D on 14 April 2009, 23:56:10
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


to what ???
Prob moan about vauxhall or someone / something!  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: dbug on 15 April 2009, 00:07:35
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FFS - What a DramaQueen!!!!!!

Advice on here is to change HBV - just change it and don't go on for 12 rather pages >:(

If you ask for advice - take it when given.  My advice is sell your Omega and buy a push bike ;)


i got a push bike, probably worth more than my Omega!

who said i wasn't taking anyones advice!

get off your high horse

Not on my high horse just fed up with your continual panic attacks mate.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: GG on 15 April 2009, 00:29:11
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FFS - What a DramaQueen!!!!!!

Advice on here is to change HBV - just change it and don't go on for 12 rather pages >:(

If you ask for advice - take it when given.  My advice is sell your Omega and buy a push bike ;)


i got a push bike, probably worth more than my Omega!

who said i wasn't taking anyones advice!

get off your high horse

Not on my high horse just fed up with your continual panic attacks mate.

Dyslexic me just struggles through all the pages, even I need just a few posts to resolve this, either fix myself or pay :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 15 April 2009, 00:43:07
i am sorting it, i`m ordering the HBV and getting someone to do it
the get VAC Solenoid done, job done!
and yeah, i would like someone who knows what they are doing obviously  :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Ian_D on 15 April 2009, 00:46:07
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i am sorting it, i`m ordering the HBV and getting someone to do it
the get VAC Solenoid done, job done!
and yeah, i would like someone who knows what they are doing obviously  :y
Ace!

I would offer a hand mate, but im a bit far away!  ;D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 15 April 2009, 00:48:35
NEVER SAY NEVER!

i fancy a weekend away, what's York like?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Pitchfork on 15 April 2009, 08:44:54
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NEVER SAY NEVER!

i fancy a weekend away, what's York like?
Cold, Wet & the Beer's very fizzy and bland! ;D ;D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Ian_D on 15 April 2009, 09:56:03
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NEVER SAY NEVER!

i fancy a weekend away, what's York like?
Get yourself to the York meet start of next month!  :y

I would give it a check over for you... and there will be others that would do too! :)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 15 April 2009, 14:54:15
brilliant, where and when is this meet?

if i book now, i can get a Travelodge for £19 !!!! LOL

got in my car this morning after driving to and from Nottingham back to Oxford on Sunday, covered about 230 miles and the coolant has hardly moved, if anything....

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 April 2009, 15:17:13
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brilliant, where and when is this meet?

if i book now, i can get a Travelodge for £19 !!!! LOL

got in my car this morning after driving to and from Nottingham back to Oxford on Sunday, covered about 230 miles and the coolant has hardly moved, if anything....

Which again confirms its likely to be HBV  :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 15 April 2009, 15:37:43
Thanks Mark

i cant wait to get the old HBV off and take a picture of all this staining thats on it, if its leaking, then get VAC Solenoid done, where is it located exactly? in the glovebox? in the inside of the car under the glovebox? i bet its a nightmare to get out, or can a Pratt like me do it?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Welung666 on 15 April 2009, 15:48:19
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Thanks Mark

i cant wait to get the old HBV off and take a picture of all this staining thats on it, if its leaking, then get VAC Solenoid done, where is it located exactly? in the glovebox? in the inside of the car under the glovebox? i bet its a nightmare to get out, or can a Pratt like me do it?

A pratt like you can do it quite easily ;) :y You just gotta take the glovebox out and they are behind it, very accessible with the glovebox out too :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 15 April 2009, 18:32:03
take the glovebox out?
how do you do that? lol
open it up and then remove the door that opens and closes

anyone done this, got any pictures?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Welung666 on 15 April 2009, 18:44:02
Just follow THIS (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1214169060) up as far as the glovebox coming out :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 15 April 2009, 19:56:03
thanks,  then what?
any pictures of what the vac solenoid looks like or where it is underneath  ::)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Welung666 on 15 April 2009, 19:59:31
They're blatantly obvious once you get that far :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Ian_D on 15 April 2009, 23:13:05
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brilliant, where and when is this meet?

if i book now, i can get a Travelodge for £19 !!!! LOL

got in my car this morning after driving to and from Nottingham back to Oxford on Sunday, covered about 230 miles and the coolant has hardly moved, if anything....


No mate, get yourself a tent! And camp out with the rest of us!!!  :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: feeutfo on 16 April 2009, 00:23:50
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brilliant, where and when is this meet?

if i book now, i can get a Travelodge for £19 !!!! LOL

got in my car this morning after driving to and from Nottingham back to Oxford on Sunday, covered about 230 miles and the coolant has hardly moved, if anything....


No mate, get yourself a tent! And camp out with the rest of us!!!  :y

Yeah right, i want to see that video of him putting a tent up  ;D ....  What is it with Waynes?...Met a couple now, all quite similar...(apologies to any Waynes that aren't)  ;)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 16 April 2009, 09:37:23
i think most of you are really very helpful and i will be paying someone to do the work for me, obviously!
i also really do appreciate your advice about doing the change of HBV, the Vac Solenoid and everything else i have ever asked questions about on this forum, i have taken it on board and after this wont be making anymore posts.
then if it is head gasket, which im sure its not now, i will let you all know  ;D

the rest of you are just Nasty and a bunch of piss takers, so what if i`m not mechanically minded, just so i can save a few bob, better than messing the car up isn't it!

as far as being thick as im made out to be on here, i have a degree from the london college of music and also A Level in Music, its how i earn my living, not tinkering with f*****g cars! and yes i can put up a lousy tent

anyway - ta ta for now   :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Elite Pete on 16 April 2009, 09:42:18
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i think most of you are really very helpful and i will be paying someone to do the work for me, obviously!
i also really do appreciate your advice about doing the change of HBV, the Vac Solenoid and everything else i have ever asked questions about on this forum, i have taken it on board and after this wont be making anymore posts.
then if it is head gasket, which im sure its not now, i will let you all know  ;D

the rest of you are just Nasty and a bunch of piss takers, so what if i`m not mechanically minded, just so i can save a few bob, better than messing the car up isn't it!

as far as being thick as im made out to be on here, i have a degree from the london college of music and also A Level in Music, its how i earn my living, not tinkering with f*****g cars! and yes i can put up a lousy tent

anyway - ta ta for now   :y
Take no notice of them Wayne, I think there's something in the water at the moment. I wonder how many of the pi55 takers can read a piece of music ;)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: kris9128 on 16 April 2009, 09:47:06
like pete says wayne. take no notice. it's not normally like this.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: unlucky alf on 16 April 2009, 09:49:51
yup wayne im with you mate, you are right to be cautious going into the unknown, its the same as anything, its called "learning", we all have to start somewhere as nobody on here was born with a spanner in their hands, anyhow before you know it & a bit of confidence youll tackle anything your miggy wants to throw at you,,,, good luck mate :y :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: jjleonard on 16 April 2009, 10:18:44
Agree with the posts above. I've read this thread with interest, and whilst wayne has appeared, in some instances, to be a bit panicky, it's absolutely understandable given his self confessed lack of knowledge about cars.

He has established, through the advice given here, that he has a problem with his HBV, rather than a head gasket problem; that knowledge alone has probably saved him hundreds of pounds of garage costs.

Some of our posters appear to have forgotten that this forum, and the General Help section in particular, exist to help Omega owners with their car problems. Personally, if I can't constructively contribute to a thread, then I won't post in it.

I'm well aware that I'm utterly contradicting myself here, so i'll shut up now.  :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: steverubberduck on 16 April 2009, 19:30:10
I'm glad you have got to the bottom of your problem, or at least you think you have.
Hopefully this will have saved you some money.
As far as some of our other members go, i can't speak for everyone.
All i know is some of our members have started to take it upon themselves to sound a little above other users, just because they have got lots of knowledge, but everybody has to start somewhere.
This site is starting to get overly bitchy, i don't know how it all starts, and i don't know want to know why.
All i do want to know, is that when i'm in this situation there will be somebody on here that can help me.
Otherwise what is the point of being a member on this forum????
 :( :( :(
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Pete Elite on 16 April 2009, 20:00:15
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I'm glad you have got to the bottom of your problem, or at least you think you have.
Hopefully this will have saved you some money.
As far as some of our other members go, i can't speak for everyone.
All i know is some of our members have started to take it upon themselves to sound a little above other users, just because they have got lots of knowledge, but everybody has to start somewhere.
This site is starting to get overly bitchy, i don't know how it all starts, and i don't know want to know why.
All i do want to know, is that when i'm in this situation there will be somebody on here that can help me.
Otherwise what is the point of being a member on this forum????
 :( :( :(

         I quite agree with you there Steve so with a high and mighty attitude as you've got i think you should leave you bitch :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D.
   Only joking Steve :-*.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 16 April 2009, 21:32:36
i`m drunk and i don't care anymore! lol
and i just gave me car a carwash for £6, that will fix everything!! ha ha

also had some good news that my band has secured a huge tour around UK, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Europe!

ROCK !!!!!
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: webby23 on 16 April 2009, 21:36:32
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i`m drunk and i don't care anymore! lol
and i just gave me car a carwash for £6, that will fix everything!! ha ha

also had some good news that my band has secured a huge tour around UK, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Europe!

ROCK !!!!!

Brilliant............

 :)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: GG on 16 April 2009, 21:45:25
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i`m drunk and i don't care anymore! lol
and i just gave me car a carwash for £6, that will fix everything!! ha ha

also had some good news that my band has secured a huge tour around UK, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Europe!

ROCK !!!!!


I am on my way.

I and other members (I think :-?) meant no offense, we often have a sick sense of humor on here  :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: feeutfo on 16 April 2009, 23:55:09
excellent news Wayne, pleased for you, you must be delighted?

Ps i dont know what this lot are going on about, not being helpfull and all? We just fixed your head gaskits didnt we?  :y
For free as well...  :-) ;D :D
 
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 26 April 2009, 12:21:28
Hi Guys and Gals
 
Got a bit of footage recorded from the gig at Butlins Skegness this weekend
 
2500+ Biker Nutters for the Motorcycle News Bikers show
 
here`s some links of the footage
make sure you click on the HQ symbol on the bottom right of the screen to watch it with better Audio and Picture Quality
didn't actually get any whole songs recorded, but gives you an idea
 
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MiJAzj2CCc
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym1hIM3sLLE
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSIq1wpzJHI
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEpsKFk1G-w
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g5wz-Ffxpc
 
much fun had by all! and my Omega made it the 310 mile round trip without blowing up, lol
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 26 April 2009, 12:32:25
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Hi Guys and Gals
 
Got a bit of footage recorded from the gig at Butlins Skegness this weekend
 
2500+ Biker Nutters for the Motorcycle News Bikers show
 
here`s some links of the footage
make sure you click on the HQ symbol on the bottom right of the screen to watch it with better Audio and Picture Quality
didn't actually get any whole songs recorded, but gives you an idea
 
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MiJAzj2CCc
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym1hIM3sLLE
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSIq1wpzJHI
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEpsKFk1G-w
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g5wz-Ffxpc
 
much fun had by all! and my Omega made it the 310 mile round trip without blowing up, lol


Hi Wayne! :y

This last post I recommend you place into "General Chat" as a new thread, not as a continuation of the old one. ;) ;)

More people will read it then! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: bigboykarl on 26 April 2009, 15:00:43
i just read all the 14 pages of this riveting stuff.......ps might try to catch u in the walkabout in barnsley wayne..but can't help with your car cause i'm mechnicly useless as well ;D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Toponetoe on 26 April 2009, 18:03:27

LOOK, Why dont you go but a hbv relay and a hbv valve and go to the village idiot mechanic, get him to fit your parts, check for a water leak( surely BMW minis have them) and then drive your car as normal and lose headless chicken mode,,,, Job Done
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looks i have upset Mark, sorry mate!
im not running round like a headless chicken now! honest!

i bought some VX Red Coolant today and topped my car up this morning, it had dropped down about quarter of a pint, slightly more, no leaks anywhere..... maybe it was just settling itself from when i done the coolant change yesterday?
also topped up the oil with some 10W 40
put about 3 quarters of a litre in it

i also took some pics of the oil filler and cap, no sludge as you can see
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6414349&l=8784f1c8d8&id=623190360

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6414350&id=623190360

and i also took picture of the dipstick and the oil that's on it, i think this is Normal??  yes it is a bit black, lol
or is this the "gunk" you all mean?

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6414351&id=623190360

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6414353&l=969d144209&id=623190360


Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 26 April 2009, 19:17:34
i`m not running round in headless chicken mode for f***s sake!
i`m driving me car around, it doesn't bother me, haven't lost much coolant recently
i haven't had time to get the shit done as i have been working and gigging......
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Cybertrucker on 26 April 2009, 21:02:19
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LOOK, Why dont you go but a hbv relay and a hbv valve and go to the village idiot mechanic, get him to fit your parts, check for a water leak( surely BMW minis have them) and then drive your car as normal and lose headless chicken mode,,,, Job Done
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looks i have upset Mark, sorry mate!
im not running round like a headless chicken now! honest!

i bought some VX Red Coolant today and topped my car up this morning, it had dropped down about quarter of a pint, slightly more, no leaks anywhere..... maybe it was just settling itself from when i done the coolant change yesterday?
also topped up the oil with some 10W 40
put about 3 quarters of a litre in it

i also took some pics of the oil filler and cap, no sludge as you can see
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6414349&l=8784f1c8d8&id=623190360

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6414350&id=623190360

and i also took picture of the dipstick and the oil that's on it, i think this is Normal??  yes it is a bit black, lol
or is this the "gunk" you all mean?

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6414351&id=623190360

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6414353&l=969d144209&id=623190360


Not entirely sure why someone should use only his fourth ever post, and his first since last December, to launch a rather aggressive attack on Wayne based on a post sent nearly three weeks ago when the problem has already been diagnosed, a fix prescribed, any previous tendencies towards headlessness quelled, and everyone has moved on.  :-?
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: semisheen on 26 April 2009, 21:09:09
Nothing more strange than people is there
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: ali on 27 April 2009, 12:36:18
I have been posting the most basic questions and Im sure they have been read and have been laughed at by some people. But as a girly, I think thats expected so I get away with it ;D ;D ;D Lots of us are here because we need help ::) so keep on with the questions Wayne, just look at how many times your thread has been read :D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: ians on 27 April 2009, 12:54:13
There is nothing wrong with basic questions from anyone.   As someone said, there no such thing as stupid questions, only stupid answers - so fire away, I certainly will.

The frustration (which has long since passed on this this thread) was that the OP appeared to be ignoring the massed advice from the forum in favour of his local tech and Vx dealer.   That is in the past, and noone should be reluctant to ask questions :y

Ian
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: GG on 28 April 2009, 21:39:10
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Hi Guys and Gals
 
Got a bit of footage recorded from the gig at Butlins Skegness this weekend
 
2500+ Biker Nutters for the Motorcycle News Bikers show
 
here`s some links of the footage
make sure you click on the HQ symbol on the bottom right of the screen to watch it with better Audio and Picture Quality
didn't actually get any whole songs recorded, but gives you an idea
 
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MiJAzj2CCc
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym1hIM3sLLE
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSIq1wpzJHI
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEpsKFk1G-w
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g5wz-Ffxpc
 
much fun had by all! and my Omega made it the 310 mile round trip without blowing up, lol

looks like a great gig, right up my street  :y
I used to be drummer once :-[, but to many years have past and can barely play now :o. I miss the rush of performing, it is great  :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: M Kerr on 28 April 2009, 23:48:05
Superb throughout!!!  What entertainment as well as accurate advice.  I recon the BBC should serialise this and replace monarch of the glen or something.

Bravo to the entire cast! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Pitchfork on 29 April 2009, 09:08:11
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Quote
Hi Guys and Gals
 
Got a bit of footage recorded from the gig at Butlins Skegness this weekend
 
2500+ Biker Nutters for the Motorcycle News Bikers show
 
here`s some links of the footage
make sure you click on the HQ symbol on the bottom right of the screen to watch it with better Audio and Picture Quality
didn't actually get any whole songs recorded, but gives you an idea
 
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MiJAzj2CCc
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym1hIM3sLLE
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSIq1wpzJHI
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEpsKFk1G-w
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g5wz-Ffxpc
 
much fun had by all! and my Omega made it the 310 mile round trip without blowing up, lol

looks like a great gig, right up my street  :y
I used to be drummer once :-[, but to many years have past and can barely play now :o. I miss the rush of performing, it is great  :y
Drummers? -Aren't they people who hang around musicians? ;D
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: GG on 07 May 2009, 21:37:46
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Hi Guys and Gals
 
Got a bit of footage recorded from the gig at Butlins Skegness this weekend
 
2500+ Biker Nutters for the Motorcycle News Bikers show
 
here`s some links of the footage
make sure you click on the HQ symbol on the bottom right of the screen to watch it with better Audio and Picture Quality
didn't actually get any whole songs recorded, but gives you an idea
 
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MiJAzj2CCc
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym1hIM3sLLE
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSIq1wpzJHI
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEpsKFk1G-w
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g5wz-Ffxpc
 
much fun had by all! and my Omega made it the 310 mile round trip without blowing up, lol

looks like a great gig, right up my street  :y
I used to be drummer once :-[, but to many years have past and can barely play now :o. I miss the rush of performing, it is great  :y
Drummers? -Aren't they people who hang around musicians? ;D


We do our best - to errrm play  :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 06 June 2009, 11:08:05
Hi Chaps, well.......  after finishing my day job, i have time to get me car done!  yes yes!! i know!! i still haven't had it done!
i have been on the road touring everywhere, no time!

just need to know where to buy a HBV for my V6 Omega, can you tell me where the best place is to get one from? are they expensive?

also, where can i buy a VAC Solenoid that "The Boy" say`s i need to get ?  i want to get these 2 things done and then an oil change and i`m good to go again!  hoorah !
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Andy B on 06 June 2009, 11:29:55
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Hi Chaps, well.......  after finishing my day job, i have time to get me car done!  yes yes!! i know!! i still haven't had it done!
i have been on the road touring everywhere, no time! ......

just need to know where to buy a HBV for my V6 Omega, can you tell me where the best place is to get one from? are they expensive?
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From Vauxhall, they're about £35. Beware of pattern parts, they've been known to fail early.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 06 June 2009, 11:35:36
thanks  mate, just phoned Vauxhall in Kidlington in Oxford and i cant order it as they are stock taking!!! Grrrrrrrr
i think the Part number is 90566947?

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Andy B on 06 June 2009, 11:39:35
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.... I think the Part number is 90566947?


Correct!  :y
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: feeutfo on 06 June 2009, 11:56:22
Hi Wayne. How was the tour?

I suspect the vac solanoid will not be a quick job? Anyone know whats involved? Cant remember if it was discussed in this thread, i aint reading 15 pages again.
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 06 June 2009, 12:04:15
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Hi Wayne. How was the tour?

I suspect the vac solanoid will not be a quick job? Anyone know whats involved? Cant remember if it was discussed in this thread, i aint reading 15 pages again.

lol ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Wayne, you do know that you can start a new thread for the particular difficulties you are facing currently?  It would make it a lot easier for members now to see a very short thread explaining your problems so we can easily and quickly help you. :-* :-* :-* ;) ;)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 06 June 2009, 12:07:28
i didn't want to get a bollocking on starting a new thread, lol 


Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: feeutfo on 06 June 2009, 12:41:03
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i didn't want to get a bollocking on starting a new thread, lol 



Take no notice of the wingers Wayne.
But would suggest a new thread for each topic/issue you may have. I think we are over the head gaskit now. :-)

Also if you fancy, post in general chat re the tour.
Always interested in live music myself. You never know you may get a gig.

Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: odin on 06 June 2009, 13:00:50
if your head gasket had gone you wold have a lot of steam from the exhast and because the system is loosing pressure dosent also mean thats where its being lost at, no water in the oil no oil in the water hmm me thinks thay trying to rip you off
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 06 June 2009, 13:19:11
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i didn't want to get a bollocking on starting a new thread, lol 



Take no notice of the wingers Wayne.
But would suggest a new thread for each topic/issue you may have. I think we are over the head gaskit now. :-)

Also if you fancy, post in general chat re the tour.
Always interested in live music myself. You never know you may get a gig.



Dead right Chris! :y :y  Wayne spread those musical wings and fly into General Chat when you want to. ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: had just about enough now, a sad day for my car!
Post by: Wayne on 06 June 2009, 13:23:43
yeah, i know VX tried to rip me off, and thanks to advice on here, i still been driving my car around and its been fine, just got to get HBV and Vac Solenoid done, then oil and filter change, then try and find someone to do a couple of patches of rust along with fitting a new rear drivers side plastic door trim and i will be happier than a pig in shite, lol