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[TheBoy]

I'm not sure I could base a decision on car ownership, based on what it needs to do for just few weeks a year.

But given your constant comments about boot space, you already do

In Entwood's case, I think he is a proper Pikey more than "just a few weeks a year" though, so a good towcar is a necessity (irrespective of what sane people think about caravans).

[aaronjb]

In Entwood's case, I think he is a proper Pikey more than "just a few weeks a year" though, so a good towcar is a necessity (irrespective of what sane people think about caravans).

If he was a proper Pikey, he'd be buying a white Transit

Or, based on the ones currently parked in our local park  2014 Mercedes E-class, which I think has already been dismissed. Seems to tow their twin-axle six-berth over very uneven (not designed for vehicles, oddly enough, being a football pitch and park) ground just fine, though.

[tunnie]

In Entwood's case, I think he is a proper Pikey more than "just a few weeks a year" though, so a good towcar is a necessity (irrespective of what sane people think about caravans).

If he was a proper Pikey, he'd be buying a white Transit


Or, based on the ones currently parked in our local park  2014 Mercedes E-class, which I think has already been dismissed. Seems to tow their twin-axle six-berth over very uneven (not designed for vehicles, oddly enough, being a football pitch and park) ground just fine, though.

 

Think E-Class does not fit the basics of being heavier than what he wants to tow....

I'm not sure I could base a decision on car ownership, based on what it needs to do for just few weeks a year.

But given your constant comments about boot space, you already do

Not so, the Zafira tickets mummy bus role. So boot space no longer an issue, to the point I'd consider an Abarth 595 for the commute, but I think I'd get bored of it quickly.

[aaronjb]

Not so, the Zafira tickets mummy bus role. So boot space no longer an issue, to the point I'd consider an Abarth 595 for the commute, but I think I'd get bored of it quickly.

Having driven 'er indoorses Smart, I'd consider a Smart Roadster for my commute .. but at least one of us really needs a car with a boot

[edit] And yep, on the E-class. The trouble Entwood is having, I think, is that manufacturers have been trying desperately to make cars lighter for fuel efficiency, so trying to find a 2+ton barge is hard now, unless you look at one of the things he doesn't want (Range Rover etc, Merc R class) for other reasons.

Or a Transit.

[Andy B]

....

 I'd consider a Smart Roadster for my commute .. but at least one of us really needs a car with a boot

[edit] And yep, on the E-class. The trouble Entwood is having, I think, is that manufacturers have been trying desperately to make cars lighter for fuel efficiency, so trying to find a 2+ton barge is hard now, unless you look at one of the things he doesn't want (Range Rover etc, Merc R class) for other reasons.

Or a Transit.

I can highly recommend them both 

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm not sure about these myself and it's not a saloon, but not a big 4x4 either, nevertheless it's a big heavy car and in petrol guise I'd imagine it's a beast! 

BMW X6?    

[Nick W]

I'm not sure about these myself and it's not a saloon, but not a big 4x4 either, nevertheless it's a big heavy car and in petrol guise I'd imagine it's a beast! 

BMW X6?   

How is an X6 not a big 4x4? It's a tarted up X5 with extra ugly.


As this thread shows, Nigel requirements for a tow car are old fashioned and will be very difficult to fulfil without him compromising. Personally, I'd be looking at a Discovery, as lots of heavy towing is the only reason I could justify such a car. But I'd probably end up with a Volvo estate, as the FWD doesn't compromise everything.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm not sure about these myself and it's not a saloon, but not a big 4x4 either, nevertheless it's a big heavy car and in petrol guise I'd imagine it's a beast! 

BMW X6?   

How is an X6 not a big 4x4? It's a tarted up X5 with extra ugly.


As this thread shows, Nigel requirements for a tow car are old fashioned and will be very difficult to fulfil without him compromising. Personally, I'd be looking at a Discovery, as lots of heavy towing is the only reason I could justify such a car. But I'd probably end up with a Volvo estate, as the FWD doesn't compromise everything.

I agree with you about the ugliness Nick, but the X6 to my mind looks like a big beast of a car rather than a 4x4.    As said I'm not sure about them. 

I suggested a Disco earlier in the thread as I think they are great and want another!    The lack of petrol engines might be a problem for Nige unless he can find a well preserved Disco 3 V8, but they seem like rocking horse shit! 

However the 2.7 TDV6 in the Disco 3 is not as agricultural as you might think, and although I havn't driven one, I expect the 3.0 SDV6 in the Disco 4 is even smoother! 

[Kevin Wood]

As this thread shows, Nigel requirements for a tow car are old fashioned and will be very difficult to fulfil without him compromising. Personally, I'd be looking at a Discovery, as lots of heavy towing is the only reason I could justify such a car. But I'd probably end up with a Volvo estate, as the FWD doesn't compromise everything.

Yep, that might well be next for me given my requirements for a tow car that's not a idiot chariot.

[Doctor Gollum]

As this thread shows, Nigel requirements for a tow car are old fashioned and will be very difficult to fulfil without him compromising. Personally, I'd be looking at a Discovery, as lots of heavy towing is the only reason I could justify such a car. But I'd probably end up with a Volvo estate, as the FWD doesn't compromise everything.

Yep, that might well be next for me given my requirements for a tow car that's not a idiot chariot.

Ex plod T6

[Doctor Gollum]

I'm not sure about these myself and it's not a saloon, but not a big 4x4 either, nevertheless it's a big heavy car and in petrol guise I'd imagine it's a beast! 

BMW X6?    

Hence my 5GT suggestion, it isn't quite so hideous 

[Viral_Jim]

Gah! I can't believe it's taken me 9 pages to remember this!

Volvo S80 V8 AWD. Or T6 AWD

About 100kgs heavier than the omega. Tows up to 2000kgs. Rare as hen's teeth but not expensive if you find one .

That said, the one below IS rather dear, but I've seen them from about £8k upwards.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709089119969?atmobcid=soc3

Ooo, on a roll now, Chrysler 300c in srt V8 guise, 1900kgs, again 2000kgs towing capacity.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201808069182710?atmobcid=soc3

Right, I think that's got to be my best and final answer 

[aaronjb]

Ooo, on a roll now, Chrysler 300c in srt V8 guise, 1900kgs, again 2000kgs towing capacity.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201808069182710?atmobcid=soc3

The closet drug dealer in me rather likes these .. I toyed with the idea of one (LPG converted) to replace the Skoda. Then SWMBO beat sense into me

I still want one, so beatings will continue.

I agree with you about the ugliness Nick, but the X6 to my mind looks like a big beast of a car rather than a 4x4.

From a distance - a BIG distance - I can see what you mean.. up close it becomes hard to ignore the fact that it's 7' tall

[Andy B]

.... up close it becomes hard to ignore the fact that it's 7' tall

and have you seen the size of the tyres rears especially? They look to be a fortune to replace?

[Doctor Gollum]

Gah! I can't believe it's taken me 9 pages to remember this!

Volvo S80 V8 AWD. Or T6 AWD

About 100kgs heavier than the omega. Tows up to 2000kgs. Rare as hen's teeth but not expensive if you find one .

That said, the one below IS rather dear, but I've seen them from about £8k upwards.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709089119969?atmobcid=soc3

Ooo, on a roll now, Chrysler 300c in srt V8 guise, 1900kgs, again 2000kgs towing capacity.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201808069182710?atmobcid=soc3

Right, I think that's got to be my best and final answer 

A V8 E Class would be a better bet in the reliability stakes... Thought the S80 had been previously mentioned, but I had obviously been distracted by a Lexusphobe