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[STEMO]

Have you considered a big pickup with the crew cab option? Walked past local Mitsubishi stealers this morning and they had some beast or other that said it had a 3 1/2 ton towing capacity. Should be ok for a pikey wagon.

I bet though it would not meet Mr Entwood's objective of being heavier than what he wants to tow though, he wants something heavy and suspect UK pickup's would not fit the bill.

Sure he,s not looking for a unicorn

A unicorn, although heavy, is relatively light compared to a large motor car, ronny.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Have you considered a big pickup with the crew cab option? Walked past local Mitsubishi stealers this morning and they had some beast or other that said it had a 3 1/2 ton towing capacity. Should be ok for a pikey wagon.

I bet though it would not meet Mr Entwood's objective of being heavier than what he wants to tow though, he wants something heavy and suspect UK pickup's would not fit the bill.

Sure he,s not looking for a unicorn

A unicorn, although heavy, is relatively light compared to a large motor car, ronny.

I'd imagine a unicorn would be a tad disgruntled at being hitched up to a pikey wagon like some common or garden shire horse! 

[Kevin Wood]

I'd imagine a unicorn would be a tad disgruntled at being hitched up to a pikey wagon like some common or garden shire horse! 

Problem solved. Cheap fuel, emissions much less offensive than diesel cars, and can be shovelled out of the way if required. Plenty heavy enough.

[aaronjb]

Have you considered a big pickup with the crew cab option? Walked past local Mitsubishi stealers this morning and they had some beast or other that said it had a 3 1/2 ton towing capacity. Should be ok for a pikey wagon.

I bet though it would not meet Mr Entwood's objective of being heavier than what he wants to tow though, he wants something heavy and suspect UK pickup's would not fit the bill.

My Ranger had a kerb weight of 1,968 kg and towed a lot more weight than Entwood's pikey palace* quite happily up the motorway between Bracknell & Northampton

Of course, it's Diesel and there'll be a long string of reasons it doesn't fit the bill but I loved mine - fantastic car and I'd have one again in a heartbeat.

*Probably. We had a car trailer loaded up with the Cobra (incl. engine & gearbox) and the contents of my garage packed in around it! Didn't weigh it, but it can't have been light.

[BazaJT]

Seen a 15 plate crew cab Ranger today[2.2 engine]it had the "old" square section metal hoop on the front end of the load area no side steps and was on 16" steel wheels.It just didn't look right at all especially after seeing most of them with the steps/tubular chrome hoop/big alloys etc.

[Doctor Gollum]

Seen a 15 plate crew cab Ranger today[2.2 engine]it had the "old" square section metal hoop on the front end of the load area no side steps and was on 16" steel wheels.It just didn't look right at all especially after seeing most of them with the steps/tubular chrome hoop/big alloys etc.

The difference between a working vehicle and a poncy, impress the neighbours at any cost, one 

[Viral_Jim]

Seen a 15 plate crew cab Ranger today[2.2 engine]it had the "old" square section metal hoop on the front end of the load area no side steps and was on 16" steel wheels.It just didn't look right at all especially after seeing most of them with the steps/tubular chrome hoop/big alloys etc.

The difference between a working vehicle and a poncy, its a van, honest mr taxman, one 

FTFY 

[STEMO]

Saw a Mercedes ML towing a huge twin wheeler this morning.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Have you considered a big pickup with the crew cab option? Walked past local Mitsubishi stealers this morning and they had some beast or other that said it had a 3 1/2 ton towing capacity. Should be ok for a pikey wagon.

I bet though it would not meet Mr Entwood's objective of being heavier than what he wants to tow though, he wants something heavy and suspect UK pickup's would not fit the bill.

My Ranger had a kerb weight of 1,968 kg and towed a lot more weight than Entwood's pikey palace* quite happily up the motorway between Bracknell & Northampton

Of course, it's Diesel and there'll be a long string of reasons it doesn't fit the bill but I loved mine - fantastic car and I'd have one again in a heartbeat.

*Probably. We had a car trailer loaded up with the Cobra (incl. engine & gearbox) and the contents of my garage packed in around it! Didn't weigh it, but it can't have been light.

Car?......are you sure Aaron?

Pickup truck or 'rubble remover' seems more apt.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I have no idea about the 'pikey van' capacity for my Tata, but I think it would make a reasonable tow car.

It has 500 lb ft of torque available at low revs which should help.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I know less than nothing about towing.

Does law dictate the car has to weigh more than the hot dog wagon it is pulling, for safety reasons?

[STEMO]

Mercedes-Benz  ML 350

Make   Model   Year   Kerb weight (Kg)   85% (Kg)   Towing Capacity (Kg)   Towing Capacity (Lbs)   Caravans Within Capacity
Mercedes-Benz   ML 350   2004   2186   1858.1   2268   4999   Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz   ML 350   2005   2184   1856.4   3365   7418   Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz   ML 350   2006   2184   1856.4   2268   4999   Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz   ML 350   2007   2184   1856.4   2268   4999   Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz   ML 350   2008   2183   1855.55   3266   7199   Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz   ML 350   2009   2184   1856.4   3266   7199   Show Caravans

Bit jumbled up but you can work it out if you're interested enough.

Here's the link: http://www.uktow.com/towing%20capacity.asp?make=Mercedes-Benz&model1=ML%20350

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Mercedes-Benz  ML 350

Make   Model   Year   Kerb weight (Kg)   85% (Kg)   Towing Capacity (Kg)   Towing Capacity (Lbs)   Caravans Within Capacity
Mercedes-Benz   ML 350   2004   2186   1858.1   2268   4999   Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz   ML 350   2005   2184   1856.4   3365   7418   Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz   ML 350   2006   2184   1856.4   2268   4999   Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz   ML 350   2007   2184   1856.4   2268   4999   Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz   ML 350   2008   2183   1855.55   3266   7199   Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz   ML 350   2009   2184   1856.4   3266   7199   Show Caravans

Bit jumbled up but you can work it out if you're interested enough.

Here's the link: http://www.uktow.com/towing%20capacity.asp?make=Mercedes-Benz&model1=ML%20350

Thank you, young Sir.

Sadly I'm too thick to understand it all, but it looks as though 85% of the the weight of the car is the most allowable. I think.

[Viral_Jim]

The 85% "rule" is something the bearded sandal shod folk over at the caravan club came up with. No basis in legality.

Assuming your licence allows you can tow uptown your car's max allowable weight. So a 2.5t range rover towing a 3.5t pikey house would be perfectly legal.

[Doctor Gollum]

The 85% "rule" is something the bearded sandal shod folk over at the caravan club came up with. No basis in legality.

Assuming your licence allows you can tow uptown your car's max allowable weight. So a 2.5t range rover towing a 3.5t pikey house would be perfectly legal.

As long as the Maximum Authorised Mass/ Gross Train Weight aren't exceeded