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Title: Omega replacement
Post by: 9jdm on 09 February 2016, 12:57:59
Well guys I have owned the Omega now for 6 years now and it is still going strong. It has had all the usual problems but with the help of this forum they have been resolved. Without doubt this forum is the best I have used. Quality info from a great community and well presented. I bought the car because it was cheap and luxurious and the drive is very good. The only real fault is the economy. So to the difficult question which can't be put off much longer. Where next? They aren't getting any younger and the prices are rock bottom. I want something with luxury that is cheap, not so old and with good forum back up. I have thought of an Elite Insignia. What do forum members plan to move on to? Your thoughts are welcomed
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 09 February 2016, 13:45:14
Sadly I wouldn't bother with anything 'similar' from Vauxhall. Insignias don't do (for me) anything that the Omega doesn't. When my old girl becomes the 'weekend' or 'second' car, we'll be getting a coupe, or something wholly un-Omega-like. The only true Omega replacement choice from Luton is the VXR8, but as they're only sold in the UK as leery track machines, this may not be what you're looking for.


If I were to stick with the nice saloon idea, for not-too much money, maybe an XF, or Volvo. Skoda Superb, perhaps. Thereabouts.  :)
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: biggriffin on 09 February 2016, 14:13:00
Sadly I wouldn't bother with anything 'similar' from Vauxhall. Insignias don't do (for me) anything that the Omega doesn't. When my old girl becomes the 'weekend' or 'second' car, we'll be getting a coupe, or something wholly un-Omega-like. The only true Omega replacement choice from Luton is the VXR8, but as they're only sold in the UK as  :D track machines, this may not be what you're looking for.


If I were to stick with the nice saloon idea, for not-too much money, maybe an XF, or Volvo. Skoda Superb, perhaps. Thereabouts.  :)

Wong.
Vxr8 built in Australia, and isn't leery till you abuse the right pedal.

The Volvo and Skoda are wwd.
And the xf is Dutch, and assembled in Preston. ;) and a bit large for most driveways
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Nick W on 09 February 2016, 14:19:49
For a large, luxurious and cheap saloon there is only one real alternative: 400 series Lexus. Early ones are contemporaries of Omegas(but are easier to find) and are still in production. One big thing in their favour is that they are badge-engineered Toyotas, with all that entails for reliability, durability and ease of maintenance.


If I had to replace my estate now, I 'd search for another as they're not hard to find. In another 2 or 3 years, that won't be the case and I'll switch to a Volvo - which was also the alternative when I bought this car 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 09 February 2016, 14:38:13
Sadly I wouldn't bother with anything 'similar' from Vauxhall. Insignias don't do (for me) anything that the Omega doesn't. When my old girl becomes the 'weekend' or 'second' car, we'll be getting a coupe, or something wholly un-Omega-like. The only true Omega replacement choice from Luton is the VXR8, but as they're only sold in the UK as  :D track machines, this may not be what you're looking for.


If I were to stick with the nice saloon idea, for not-too much money, maybe an XF, or Volvo. Skoda Superb, perhaps. Thereabouts.  :)

Wong.
Vxr8 built in Australia, and isn't leery till you abuse the right pedal.

The Volvo and Skoda are wwd.
And the xf is Dutch, and assembled in Preston. ;) and a bit large for most driveways


sigh. When I said 'from Luton' I didn't mean 'built in Luton' I meant 'from Luton aka Griffin House aka the Vauxhall Stable'


Also, who's Wong? It was Chinese New Year yesterday!  :)
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Entwood on 09 February 2016, 14:45:34
For a large, luxurious and cheap saloon there is only one real alternative: 400 series Lexus. Early ones are contemporaries of Omegas(but are easier to find) and are still in production. One big thing in their favour is that they are badge-engineered Toyotas, with all that entails for reliability, durability and ease of maintenance.


If I had to replace my estate now, I 'd search for another as they're not hard to find. In another 2 or 3 years, that won't be the case and I'll switch to a Volvo - which was also the alternative when I bought this car 5 years ago.

LS460 is certainly an extremely nice motor... on the "possibles" list for me .. :)
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 February 2016, 17:37:07
For a large, luxurious and cheap saloon there is only one real alternative: 400 series Lexus. Early ones are contemporaries of Omegas(but are easier to find) and are still in production. One big thing in their favour is that they are badge-engineered Toyotas, with all that entails for reliability, durability and ease of maintenance.


If I had to replace my estate now, I 'd search for another as they're not hard to find. In another 2 or 3 years, that won't be the case and I'll switch to a Volvo - which was also the alternative when I bought this car 5 years ago.

LS460 is certainly an extremely nice motor... on the "possibles" list for me .. :)

I agree.

Some say they look ugly......or worse still bland. I prefer the word discreet. :y

Reasonably priced, too. :y

Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 February 2016, 17:38:24
The OP doesn't say how deep his pockets are.
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: EMD on 09 February 2016, 17:41:29
This Phaeton would be on my list as a definite replacement  :)

VW (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-Phaeton-3-2-V6-auto-Stunning-Car-/262272738363?hash=item3d10ac643b:g:MjcAAOSwd0BV2GZF)
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 February 2016, 18:13:36
How about the Lexus LS600h?

I believe this luxurious means of transport comes with 2 engines.

A 5 litre V8 at the front........... and a milk float engine in the boot to aid economy. ::) ::) :)


Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: STEMO on 09 February 2016, 19:48:53
How about the Lexus LS600h?

I believe this luxurious means of transport comes with 2 engines.

A 5 litre V8 at the front........... and a milk float engine in the boot to aid economy. ::) ::) :)
Depreciation would soon take care of any ideas about economy.
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 February 2016, 20:26:00
How about the Lexus LS600h?

I believe this luxurious means of transport comes with 2 engines.

A 5 litre V8 at the front........... and a milk float engine in the boot to aid economy. ::) ::) :)
Depreciation would soon take care of any ideas about economy.

The idea is to buy at the bottom of the depreciation curve.

This works well, in theory........ ::) ::) ::) :)
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 February 2016, 20:29:52
Been looking wistfully at W220 S classes and Cadillac STSs...

I know the W220 disolves like an unpainted Lancia on a beach, but there are some nice six cylinder ones knocking about...

The Cadillac is clearly an alternative choice, being wwd and otherwise unknown, but there we are ::)
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 February 2016, 20:41:40
Been looking wistfully at W220 S classes and Cadillac STSs...

I know the W220 disolves like an unpainted Lancia on a beach, but there are some nice six cylinder ones knocking about...

The Cadillac is clearly an alternative choice, being wwd and otherwise unknown, but there we are ::)

Yes, Al. Drug dealers 'love em'..... :D ;)

Are they all LHD?
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 February 2016, 22:28:06
Been looking wistfully at W220 S classes and Cadillac STSs...

I know the W220 disolves like an unpainted Lancia on a beach, but there are some nice six cylinder ones knocking about...

The Cadillac is clearly an alternative choice, being wwd and otherwise unknown, but there we are ::)

Yes, Al. Drug dealers 'love em'..... :D ;)

Are they all LHD?
No, was officially sold here in RHD ;)
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: MV6Gaz on 10 February 2016, 00:37:55
Volvo S80, nice interior, all the toys, economical especially in D5 form, fast and comfortable, good forum, cheap and getting cheaper thanks to replacement S90!
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Steve B on 10 February 2016, 00:43:44
You can only replace an Omega with Another Omega.....Anything else is Another car  :y
It may be better,It may be worse,.,.,.,But it wont be like an Omega...

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: biggriffin on 10 February 2016, 06:28:59
Been looking wistfully at W220 S classes and Cadillac STSs...

I know the W220 disolves like an unpainted Lancia on a beach, but there are some nice six cylinder ones knocking about...

The Cadillac is clearly an alternative choice, being wwd and otherwise unknown, but there we are ::)

Yes, Al. Drug dealers 'love em'..... :D ;)

Are they all LHD?
No, was officially sold here in RHD ;)

Mate has one, bit of a mongrel bits of Saab and Vectra, lots of toys, 32mpg, got the 2.0 turbo.
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: 05omegav6 on 10 February 2016, 07:07:58
That's the BLS...

I mean this...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cadillac-seville-sts-northstar-V8-/272121740323?hash=item3f5bb83c23:g:mtQAAOSwXshWr6KQ :y
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 February 2016, 12:03:01
That's the BLS...

I mean this...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cadillac-seville-sts-northstar-V8-/272121740323?hash=item3f5bb83c23:g:mtQAAOSwXshWr6KQ :y

For mid to high three figures I'd take a punt. :y
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: STEMO on 10 February 2016, 13:07:54
That's the BLS...

I mean this...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cadillac-seville-sts-northstar-V8-/272121740323?hash=item3f5bb83c23:g:mtQAAOSwXshWr6KQ :y
He is selling because he's had it long enough to realise it's a heap of shit he's reducing his collection.  :)
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Entwood on 10 February 2016, 13:20:08
Was having a beer (or three) with fellow caravanners last night, this subject arose ... so now have to remove the Lexus 460 from the "possibles" list ... seems it is NOT, and never will be, cleared for towing !!

Phaeton would still be high up the list IF, big IF, they were not all oil-burners ... seems the petrol option died around 2005 and from then on its all oil .... and I want petrol/lpg .. :(

Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 February 2016, 13:51:34
Was having a beer (or three) with fellow caravanners last night, this subject arose ... so now have to remove the Lexus 460 from the "possibles" list ... seems it is NOT, and never will be, cleared for towing !!

Phaeton would still be high up the list IF, big IF, they were not all oil-burners ... seems the petrol option died around 2005 and from then on its all oil .... and I want petrol/lpg .. :(

Why so?.......Mr Entwood. ???

I like the Phaeton but they really are enormous. Tip the scales at 2.3 tonnes. :o
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: aaronjb on 10 February 2016, 13:58:11
Because Lexus don't see why anyone spending £72000 (new) on a Lexus 460 would want to strap a burger van on the back, and therefore they never bothered Type Approving the vehicle with a towing capacity - therefore it's rated towing capacity is 0 and it would be illegal to add a towbar.
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Viral_Jim on 10 February 2016, 14:38:31
Also, AFAIK, the LS 460 & 600h are direct injection petrol and  no-one has yet done an lpg kit for them.  :(
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 February 2016, 14:53:36
Because Lexus don't see why anyone spending £72000 (new) on a Lexus 460 would want to strap a burger van on the back, and therefore they never bothered Type Approving the vehicle with a towing capacity - therefore it's rated towing capacity is 0 and it would be illegal to add a towbar.

Despite coming from Bracknell you're quite a smart fella. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 10 February 2016, 17:26:18
Lexus LS430 would be attractive for me, despite its unattractive styling. A hell of a lot of car for not much money now.
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: EMD on 10 February 2016, 17:44:14
You can only replace an Omega with Another Omega.....Anything else is Another car  :y
It may be better,It may be worse,.,.,.,But it wont be like an Omega...

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ive been doing that for over 10 years  ;D You just cant beat'em unless its one of those v8 things from over the pond
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: TheBoy on 10 February 2016, 18:09:48
Contemplating what would replace the Bullet on the way in to work today. Drew a big fat blank. Nothing. Zilch.

I have this nagging worry I could end up in a WWD shitbox. And that concerns me.
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: BazaJT on 10 February 2016, 18:20:10
As an outside bet.If you're not squeamish about such things what about an ex-hearse?By their nature they're generally well maintained/looked after and if you get one with the higher than standard rear roofline you'd have more than ample space with or without the "load bed" in place.This would leave the field fairly open as to make/model.
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: YZ250 on 10 February 2016, 18:24:34
As an outside bet.If you're not squeamish about such things what about an ex-hearse?By their nature they're generally well maintained/looked after and if you get one with the higher than standard rear roofline you'd have more than ample space with or without the "load bed" in place.This would leave the field fairly open as to make/model.

We await the ' I wouldn't be seen dead in one of those' comments.  :)
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: omega2018 on 10 February 2016, 19:04:36
what about an s type jag? this one went for £330(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/1EwAAOSwNphWYcyR/$_57.JPG)
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: btc on 10 February 2016, 19:10:37
what about an s type jag? this one went for £330(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/1EwAAOSwNphWYcyR/$_57.JPG)

That's what I went for in the end bought a cheap one to see how I got on with it so far so good bought a 2001 3.0 se sport with histpry for £600 complete with private plate s-tpe
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: nemo on 10 February 2016, 19:49:09
I replaced my elite with a w220 about 3 years ago. It is a 2005 and had 48000 miles on the clock and cost £6500. It is better on fuel than the omega even though it is a 3.7 v6. Only problem has been parking sensors touch wood. It is great to drive but you can't fit a tow bar to it either.
Title: Re: Omega replacement
Post by: 05omegav6 on 11 February 2016, 00:52:18
I replaced my elite with a w220 about 3 years ago. It is a 2005 and had 48000 miles on the clock and cost £6500. It is better on fuel than the omega even though it is a 3.7 v6. Only problem has been parking sensors touch wood. It is great to drive but you can't fit a tow bar to it either.
Since when?