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« on: 30 June 2013, 21:53:54 »

Have promised I'd take 3 members of the family to somewhere some 240 miles there and back in the 3.2 (with leather interior) which wouldn't be a problem apart from "the dog" aye yeah it's a small lap dog but still they do have sharp nails and not forgetting the teeth  ;D ... I've tried getting around bringing the dog but its either bring the dog or shit hits the fan...., so my question is how to transport 4 people (me included) and a small dog in a Omega saloon... I've tried mentioning the boot which didn't go down too well.. So the only solution would be in the rear centre if by the windows will most likely go for the windows scratching the hell out of the door card.

Anyone know of anything that could securely hold a King Charles size dog in the centre rear so it doesn't jump about and just encase be waterproof you never know  :o and not too expensive.. Have considered hiring a car like in Top Gear  :P but I'm pretty sure animals arn't aloud I'm them.

Not sure which section to put this in as its kinda car chat and not  :-\

Thanks anyways
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Re: Dilemma..
« Reply #1 on: 30 June 2013, 21:57:13 »

How well behaved is the dog?

Before we got the Estate, the front passenger seat would go all the way back and the dog would go next to the feet of the passenger.

Its by far safest place, a dog sitting on the rear bench is going to go sliding all over the place in the corners. If its in the middle and you have to slam on the brakes for what ever reason, the dog goes flying forwards.
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Re: Dilemma..
« Reply #2 on: 30 June 2013, 21:57:21 »

how about a harness-connected to seat belt--seriously not on illuminati tap water :y
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Re: Dilemma..
« Reply #3 on: 30 June 2013, 22:01:48 »

Footwell or back seat, between passengers on a blanket or towel etc, it shouldn't be a problem if it's owner is going to be with it...... :y :y
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« Reply #4 on: 30 June 2013, 22:02:25 »

Can you not secure it to something, maybe the exhaust manifold, with gaffa tape or suchlike?  ;)

seriously put it in a small cage in the boot behind the seat with the ski hatch open so it can see it's owner and get the odd treat?
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« Reply #5 on: 30 June 2013, 22:07:54 »

If you're that prissy get a van ::)

Failing that, plastic sheet in the boot and fold the centre of the backrest down. If the dog is tethered then it will be able to see out. It won't like it and will create a fuss, and not my first choice.

On the back seat will be fine. If the dog is housetrained then no issues imho :y

But seriously, if it bothers you that much, recind your offer, job done :-\
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Re: Dilemma..
« Reply #6 on: 30 June 2013, 22:10:00 »

Small to Medium size dog harnesses are very cheap and simply plug into the centre seat belt lock( or wherever you want to restrain the dog) :y
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« Reply #7 on: 30 June 2013, 22:13:38 »

Small to Medium size dog harnesses are very cheap and simply plug into the centre seat belt lock( or wherever you want to restrain the dog) :y
thats what I said-but probably thought  I am nuts :-\
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« Reply #8 on: 30 June 2013, 22:15:11 »

How well behaved is the dog?

Very with the owner in close proximity... BUT when on its own or with only strangers mad as hell.. It's a bitch in both definitions of the word  :-X.

Before we got the Estate, the front passenger seat would go all the way back and the dog would go next to the feet of the passenger.

That might work buts its a fussy dog will have to be on her lap or next to her or it wont stop winging and scratching.

Its by far safest place, a dog sitting on the rear bench is going to go sliding all over the place in the corners. If its in the middle and you have to slam on the brakes for what ever reason, the dog goes flying forwards.

True...  :-\
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« Reply #9 on: 30 June 2013, 22:17:10 »

Small to Medium size dog harnesses are very cheap and simply plug into the centre seat belt lock( or wherever you want to restrain the dog) :y
thats what I said-but probably thought  I am nuts :-\

That sounds ideal. Any links to one for this type of dog ?
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« Reply #10 on: 30 June 2013, 22:20:23 »

If you're that prissy get a van ::)

Failing that, plastic sheet in the boot and fold the centre of the backrest down. If the dog is tethered then it will be able to see out. It won't like it and will create a fuss, and not my first choice.

On the back seat will be fine. If the dog is housetrained then no issues imho :y

But seriously, if it bothers you that much, recind your offer, job done :-\

Dog is house trained.

Don't think the boot is an option tbh would be cruel  :-\
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Re: Dilemma..
« Reply #12 on: 30 June 2013, 22:22:34 »

We used to have an Alsatian who loved to sit in the middle of the back seat watching where she was going. The best bit was the way she used to lean into the bends like a seasoned bike rider.
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« Reply #13 on: 30 June 2013, 22:24:52 »

We used to have an Alsatian who loved to sit in the middle of the back seat watching where she was going. The best bit was the way she used to lean into the bends like a seasoned bike rider.
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+1 they do like to see where they're going :y
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« Reply #14 on: 30 June 2013, 22:25:45 »



Ideal just need to put something underneath to prevent damage to the leather and to stop sliding about.. There will be 2 people in the rear with the dog so should be okay with that harness thingy.
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« Reply #15 on: 30 June 2013, 22:27:34 »

We used to have an Alsatian who loved to sit in the middle of the back seat watching where she was going. The best bit was the way she used to lean into the bends like a seasoned bike rider.
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+1 they do like to see where they're going :y

Yep and they do love sticking their heads out the window well the tall dogs at least  ;D
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« Reply #16 on: 30 June 2013, 22:28:23 »





Ideal just need to put something underneath to prevent damage to the leather and to stop sliding about.. There will be 2 people in the rear with the dog so should be okay with that harness thingy.
how doe he reach the pedals :-\ ------ ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #17 on: 30 June 2013, 22:30:37 »





Ideal just need to put something underneath to prevent damage to the leather and to stop sliding about.. There will be 2 people in the rear with the dog so should be okay with that harness thingy.
how doe he reach the pedals :-\ ------ ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Look at the warning on this website on this product...


 
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« Reply #18 on: 30 June 2013, 22:30:44 »

Anything you put on the seat will slide around ::) be it a mat/rug/person/dog/shopping...basic physics ::)
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« Reply #19 on: 30 June 2013, 22:31:42 »

Some cars arm various airbags if the seat belt is plugged in :y
A very good reason not to put the dog in the front seat with a passenger :y
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« Reply #20 on: 30 June 2013, 22:33:20 »

Anything you put on the seat will slide around ::) be it a mat/rug/person/dog/shopping...basic physics ::)

Something like this then  ;D

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« Reply #21 on: 30 June 2013, 22:34:31 »

Alternatively buy a cloth seat base and fit that ::)
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« Reply #22 on: 30 June 2013, 22:39:58 »

i use a med dog transport cage to carry my cat ozzy about enough room to stand and turn around + room for a litter tray
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« Reply #23 on: 30 June 2013, 22:43:00 »

Anything you put on the seat will slide around ::) be it a mat/rug/person/dog/shopping...basic physics ::)

Something like this then  ;D


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« Reply #27 on: 30 June 2013, 22:57:58 »

thats better to be honest, how about just his/her dogs basket in the middle in the back?

As long as that lead is fairly short.
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Re: Dilemma..
« Reply #28 on: 30 June 2013, 22:58:36 »

or one of these



And to answer a question with a question. If being transported on a plane or train where would it be.
Therefore what is wrong with the boot secured in one of these. It's a dog not a child, would not be "in" any of my cars.
By the way I do like dogs.

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« Reply #29 on: 30 June 2013, 23:00:06 »

Just put the dog in the car and be done with it ::)
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« Reply #30 on: 30 June 2013, 23:00:09 »

thats better to be honest, how about just his/her dogs basket in the middle in the back?

As long as that lead is fairly short.

Should be fine with just the bag but without the seatbelt i presume it will still move unless the owner does something and holds the bag thing should be perfect and its waterproof  :-* ;D
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« Reply #31 on: 30 June 2013, 23:01:32 »

or one of these



And to answer a question with a question. If being transported on a plane or train where would it be.
Therefore what is wrong with the boot secured in one of these. It's a dog not a child, would not be "in" any of my cars.
By the way I do like dogs.

(get's coat and makes quick exit)

Na the winging would do my head in if was in the boot.
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« Reply #32 on: 30 June 2013, 23:03:44 »

Just put the dog in the car and be done with it ::)

Did just that many years ago in a Vectra hatch and the dog was sick all over the boot (was my dog that as well)..
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« Reply #33 on: 30 June 2013, 23:08:07 »

 ::) anything you put on a leather seat will move...

Just put the dog in the car and be done with it ::)

Did just that many years ago in a Vectra hatch and the dog was sick all over the boot (was my dog that as well)..
What do you expect putting the dog in the boot ::)

Seriously, if it is worrying you this much, just don't take them, dog and all.
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« Reply #34 on: 30 June 2013, 23:10:25 »

::) anything you put on a leather seat will move...

Just put the dog in the car and be done with it ::)

Did just that many years ago in a Vectra hatch and the dog was sick all over the boot (was my dog that as well)..
What do you expect putting the dog in the boot ::)

Seriously, if it is worrying you this much, just don't take them, dog and all.

Aye  :-\
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« Reply #35 on: 30 June 2013, 23:28:22 »

I can type it bigger if it helps, but the words will stay the same...
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« Reply #36 on: 30 June 2013, 23:33:35 »

I can type it bigger if it helps, but the words will stay the same...

Which what when how  ???  ;D

Seriously. I'll just have to get something like that dog bag pouch and be done with it everything else is set in motion apart from this dog seating arrangement set back.
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« Reply #37 on: 01 July 2013, 00:08:39 »

Sure, if you want the dog to overheat a puke all over the place, then putting it in a bag/box in the middle of the car and away from the windows will be fine ::)
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« Reply #38 on: 01 July 2013, 00:12:07 »

I really do think this problem is being over thought..... ::) ::) If the dog is housetrained and with it's owner, what is the problem, from what you have said it is likely to sit on owners knee; if you really want to solve the problem go and buy an estate..... ::) ::) ::)
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« Reply #39 on: 01 July 2013, 00:14:25 »

I really do think this problem is being over thought..... ::) ::) If the dog is housetrained and with it's owner, what is the problem, from what you have said it is likely to sit on owners knee; if you really want to solve the problem go and buy an estate..... ::) ::) ::)

Glad it's not just me ::)
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« Reply #40 on: 01 July 2013, 00:15:33 »

Sure, if you want the dog to overheat a puke all over the place, then putting it in a bag/box in the middle of the car and away from the windows will be fine ::)

Leave the air con on should be cold enough for it.
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« Reply #41 on: 01 July 2013, 00:17:00 »

Don't get me started on the hairs they leave behind  ;)

Thanks for the input guys, I like the idea of the harness combined with the bag pouch thing  :y
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« Reply #42 on: 01 July 2013, 00:21:45 »

Sure, if you want the dog to overheat a puke all over the place, then putting it in a bag/box in the middle of the car and away from the windows will be fine ::)

Leave the air con on should be cold enough for it.
It is as much about airflow as temperature, starting to worry about the dog now tbh :-\
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« Reply #43 on: 01 July 2013, 00:22:44 »

Don't get me started on the hairs they leave behind  ;)

Thanks for the input guys, I like the idea of the harness combined with the bag pouch thing  :y
Put the dog in a bag, and expect a call from the RSPCA >:(
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« Reply #44 on: 01 July 2013, 00:24:52 »

Don't get me started on the hairs they leave behind  ;)

Thanks for the input guys, I like the idea of the harness combined with the bag pouch thing  :y

You said you had leather seats, not a problem then, try a fat old lab and cloth seats, then you will know about hairs........ :'( :'( :'(
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« Reply #45 on: 01 July 2013, 00:28:44 »

Sure, if you want the dog to overheat a puke all over the place, then putting it in a bag/box in the middle of the car and away from the windows will be fine ::)

Leave the air con on should be cold enough for it.
It is as much about airflow as temperature, starting to worry about the dog now tbh :-\

No need Al. I'll take care of everyone including the dog i live with her and do care for her just dont make it obvious as a King Charles ain't really what youd call a manly dog  :-[ I'm not bloody cruel you know Al just trying to find the best solution to bringing the dog safely along in a saloon obviously an estate would have been more ideal but not so much for a small lapdog dog imo
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« Reply #46 on: 01 July 2013, 00:30:16 »

Don't get me started on the hairs they leave behind  ;)

Thanks for the input guys, I like the idea of the harness combined with the bag pouch thing  :y

You said you had leather seats, not a problem then, try a fat old lab and cloth seats, then you will know about hairs........ :'( :'( :'(

Only pulling a leg not fussed about hairs but yeah fabric seats would gather a few wouldn't they  :o
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« Reply #47 on: 01 July 2013, 00:35:26 »

Don't get me started on the hairs they leave behind  ;)

Thanks for the input guys, I like the idea of the harness combined with the bag pouch thing  :y

You said you had leather seats, not a problem then, try a fat old lab and cloth seats, then you will know about hairs........ :'( :'( :'(

Only pulling a leg not fussed about hairs but yeah fabric seats would gather a few wouldn't they  :o

In that case that's four pages of interweb wasted...
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« Reply #48 on: 01 July 2013, 00:36:14 »

Just threaten to s*&t in the owners bed if they let it poo or pee in your car. Simples  :y :y :y ;D ;D
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« Reply #49 on: 01 July 2013, 00:42:04 »

Don't get me started on the hairs they leave behind  ;)

Thanks for the input guys, I like the idea of the harness combined with the bag pouch thing  :y

You said you had leather seats, not a problem then, try a fat old lab and cloth seats, then you will know about hairs........ :'( :'( :'(

Only pulling a leg not fussed about hairs but yeah fabric seats would gather a few wouldn't they  :o

In that case that's four pages of interweb wasted...

How do you work that out then. I only mentioned the word hair to brighten the thread.. Sorry I tried.

I never mentioned hairs in the original #1 post  ??? ..

Safety of the dog and to keep her in place to prevent damage to leather , door card etc. that may be caused by the nails was my main goal. And thanks to other members I've found some solutions. Thanks.  :)
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« Reply #50 on: 01 July 2013, 01:34:00 »

Got a towbar mate ?  How fast can it run?  ;) ;) ;)
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« Reply #51 on: 01 July 2013, 01:37:18 »

If you don't want to chance the dog damaging the car, then the easiest thing would simply be not to let it in the car to begin with.

I'd also love to know which hire companies don't allow dogs in their cars.

Got a towbar mate ?  How fast can it run?  ;) ;) ;)

 ;D Nice try, but tongue in cheek efforts are wasted me thinks ::)
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« Reply #52 on: 01 July 2013, 01:39:43 »

Got a towbar mate ?  How fast can it run?  ;) ;) ;)

No towbar on the 3.2  :(  2.2 has one though hmmm.  ::)  ;D
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« Reply #53 on: 01 July 2013, 01:51:43 »

Got a towbar mate ?  How fast can it run?  ;) ;) ;)

No towbar on the 3.2  :(  2.2 has one though hmmm.  ::)  ;D

If you've still got the 2.2 and are genuinely concerned about the dog destroying the Elite, then why not use the 2.2 instead.  :-X
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« Reply #54 on: 01 July 2013, 01:53:14 »

Got a towbar mate ?  How fast can it run?  ;) ;) ;)

No towbar on the 3.2  :(  2.2 has one though hmmm.  ::)  ;D

If you've still got the 2.2 and are genuinely concerned about the dog destroying the Elite, then why not use the 2.2 instead.  :-X

It's off the road atm
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« Reply #55 on: 01 July 2013, 08:02:29 »

What about buying a cheap cloth interior and swap it over :y
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« Reply #56 on: 01 July 2013, 09:17:06 »

You need the Canine Leather Upholstery Protection System available from most decent charity shops!!  :)



Tell the owner that if the dog shits, pisses or in anyway damages your car they're walking home!! Simple!!  ::)  :y

You worry too much.  ;)
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« Reply #57 on: 01 July 2013, 10:10:21 »

What about buying a cheap cloth interior and swap it over :y
suggested that 2 pages ago, but was totally ignored ::) no doubt from some one else it will be a good idea...
Cloth seat bases are ten a penny and take two whole minutes to fit :-X
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« Reply #58 on: 01 July 2013, 10:47:52 »

What about buying a cheap cloth interior and swap it over :y
suggested that 2 pages ago, but was totally ignored ::) no doubt from some one else it will be a good idea...
Cloth seat bases are ten a penny and take two whole minutes to fit :-X
Me not reading through again ;D
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« Reply #59 on: 01 July 2013, 13:22:51 »

What about buying a cheap cloth interior and swap it over :y
suggested that 2 pages ago, but was totally ignored ::) no doubt from some one else it will be a good idea...
Cloth seat bases are ten a penny and take two whole minutes to fit :-X
Me not reading through again ;D

Wasn't a pop at you :y merely an observation...
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« Reply #60 on: 01 July 2013, 13:46:06 »

This type of cover has seat belt holes and fastens behind the rear headrests and won't slide around with passengers sat on it. I have one and it should meet your needs together with a dog harness :y


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HEAVY-DUTY-NEW-PET-CAR-REAR-SEAT-HIGH-GRADE-FULL-PROTECTIVE-COVER-TARTAN-DESIGN-/181130035119?pt=UK_Car_Interior_Accessories&hash=item2a2c30ffaf
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« Reply #61 on: 01 July 2013, 15:14:05 »

This type of cover has seat belt holes and fastens behind the rear headrests and won't slide around with passengers sat on it. I have one and it should meet your needs together with a dog harness :y


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HEAVY-DUTY-NEW-PET-CAR-REAR-SEAT-HIGH-GRADE-FULL-PROTECTIVE-COVER-TARTAN-DESIGN-/181130035119?pt=UK_Car_Interior_Accessories&hash=item2a2c30ffaf

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« Reply #62 on: 01 July 2013, 15:22:25 »

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