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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: woolley11 on 23 February 2021, 19:14:45

Title: Puk code
Post by: woolley11 on 23 February 2021, 19:14:45
Evening - just rendered codes on my CCRT700 after having battery connected.

It’s asking for a PUK code - where do I find this as wish to use the car phone  ?

I’ve got all the code cards etc....

Thanks
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 February 2021, 19:33:42
Isn't that the code to transfer a number from one phone company to another?

Or the pin number for a sim card fitted to the head unit :-\
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: STEMO on 23 February 2021, 19:42:30
Evening - just rendered codes on my CCRT700 after having battery connected.

It’s asking for a PUK code - where do I find this as wish to use the car phone  ?

I’ve got all the code cards etc....

Thanks
Have you actually got a phone in the car?
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: STEMO on 23 February 2021, 19:44:29
Ahhh...on these old girls a sim went in on a credit card sized piece of plastic iirc.
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: woolley11 on 23 February 2021, 19:50:41
Got the credit card size sim slotted in, which is a Vodaphone network.

The previous guy had an 02 sim.

 I just wondered if there was a specific code off the car information, but if it’s a transfer of network I’ll have to investigate further.
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: STEMO on 23 February 2021, 19:53:11
Got the credit card size sim slotted in, which is a Vodaphone network.

The previous guy had an 02 sim.

 I just wondered if there was a specific code off the car information, but if it’s a transfer of network I’ll have to investigate further.
You'll need to get the Puk from Voda.
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: STEMO on 23 February 2021, 19:55:37
Hang on, I think I'm talking rubbish, again. The puk is to unlock a phone, not a sim. I think Jaime is your best bet here.
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: Andy B on 23 February 2021, 19:57:03
you don't need a PUK to fit a SIM in a CCRT head unit. Just fit the full sized SIM .... that's it. I remember flattening my mobile with nothing with me to charge it in the car so swapped the SIM from my phone to the Omega's CCRT (obviously a looong time back) to make the call

As above PUK codes are when you want to swap your mobile number from one net work to AN Other
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: STEMO on 23 February 2021, 19:59:31
you don't need a PUK to fit a SIM in a CCRT head unit. Just fit the full sized SIM .... that's it. I remember flattening my mobile with nothing with me to charge it in the car so swapped the SIM from my phone to the Omega's CCRT (obviously a looong time back) to make the call

As above PUK codes are when you want to swap your mobile number from one net work to AN Other
It is asking for a PUK though. I just can't remember that far back. I had an old Nokia in the cradle, but that's as far as my memory goes  ;D
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: STEMO on 23 February 2021, 20:01:54
Think I'd try an 02 sim.
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: woolley11 on 23 February 2021, 20:13:48
Just rang Vodaphone to get a PUK code.

Says the phone number I’ve entered is no longer recognised on their network.

Given I’ve not used it for about 3.5 years that’s maybe the problem.

For the sake of a new SIM card £20/£10, I’ll get a new number.
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 February 2021, 20:20:55
An EE 99p sim should do the job ;)

I used a (then) T Mobile one in my CCRT2008 and just used to foward my mobile to it when I was driving.
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: Enceladus on 23 February 2021, 21:47:31
A PUK code is a network specific unlock code. If the system is locked to Vodafone then you will need to get the code from Vodafone. A SIM from O2, 3 or EE or any of the virtual operators etc will just trigger a request for the PUK. code.

Try an active Vodafone SIM and then request the PUK.
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: Broomies Mate on 23 February 2021, 21:49:31
No, No, No, NO!  A PAC code is what you'd need to migrate a mobile number from one network to another.

A PUK code is used when a network blocks a SIM (lost, stolen, not used for a very long time).

Bloody Pensioners!  ;D
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: STEMO on 23 February 2021, 21:55:30
No, No, No, NO!  A PAC code is what you'd need to migrate a mobile number from one network to another.

A PUK code is used when a network blocks a SIM (lost, stolen, not used for a very long time).

Bloody Pensioners!  ;D
Yeah, that's it  ;D
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: Enceladus on 24 February 2021, 04:09:37
If the SIM was blocked because it's lost, stolen or not used for a long time it would surely error with 'unregistered' or 'unregistered sim' or similar message.

Since it's asking for a PUK code then it means somebody has entered the SIM PIN incorrectly multiple times. That locks the installed SIM, maybe (hopefully not) also the telephone in the CCRT700 system, until the PUK code is correctly entered. Probably immediately followed by the correct SIM PIN.

Since the locked SIM is Vodafone the required PUK code would need to come from them.

AIUI the CCRT700 is 2G, single band on 900MHz. That means it will only support Vodafone and O2 and possibly the MVNO's that overlay them.  So try another active Vodafone SIM and see does the PUK request clear. Or try an O2 SIM.

Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: TheBoy on 25 February 2021, 17:24:40
An EE 99p sim should do the job ;)

I used a (then) T Mobile one in my CCRT2008 and just used to foward my mobile to it when I was driving.
Wont work, needs to be 900MHz GSM, which in the UK means O2 or Vodafone, or one of the MVNOs like Tesco, NiffNaff, Asda and so on.

EE MVNOs like T-Mobile, Orange, Virgin (though they are migrating off) and BT Mobile won't work in that unit, as they do not have any 900MHz GSM.
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 February 2021, 21:17:32
An EE 99p sim should do the job ;)

I used a (then) T Mobile one in my CCRT2008 and just used to foward my mobile to it when I was driving.
Wont work, needs to be 900MHz GSM, which in the UK means O2 or Vodafone, or one of the MVNOs like Tesco, NiffNaff, Asda and so on.

EE MVNOs like T-Mobile, Orange, Virgin (though they are migrating off) and BT Mobile won't work in that unit, as they do not have any 900MHz GSM.
Every day is a school day :y

I guess that when the 700 unit was designed, BT Cellnet and Vodachrome where the only two networks available :-\
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: TheBoy on 26 February 2021, 13:25:45
An EE 99p sim should do the job ;)

I used a (then) T Mobile one in my CCRT2008 and just used to foward my mobile to it when I was driving.
Wont work, needs to be 900MHz GSM, which in the UK means O2 or Vodafone, or one of the MVNOs like Tesco, NiffNaff, Asda and so on.

EE MVNOs like T-Mobile, Orange, Virgin (though they are migrating off) and BT Mobile won't work in that unit, as they do not have any 900MHz GSM.
Every day is a school day :y

I guess that when the 700 unit was designed, BT Cellnet and Vodachrome where the only two networks available :-\
Cellnet and Voda.  It didn't become BT Cellnet until BT bought the rest of the company from Securicor in the late 90s.

Orange launched in the UK with a 1800Mhz GSM service in the mid 90s, so possibly was around during most of the development of the CCRT, but likely that a standard 900 GSM chipset was selected early on in development.
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: zirk on 28 February 2021, 12:32:39
CCRT700 are, as said, GSM 900mhz only. The CCRT2008 were Dual Band GSM 900 and PCN 1800mhz ( later to be known as International 2G GSM 1800), so the Orange and T Mobile Sims would also work on the CCRT2008.

Probably also worth mentioning that a lot of the Bandwidth on these Bands have been Re Farmed for 3 and 4G use now, so GSM Coverage now is at its bare minimum requirement and obligations under International Roaming Agreements.

It's also planned to allow the GSM Service to be concluded and switched off by 2025, so potentially limited Life left with these HU's now, although the UK does use this Service for a lot of Meter Readings, Remote Status Messaging for Utilities and Transport, so what the UK may do is still being debated although you don't need Digital Voice Bandwidth just to send a String or a few Packets of Telephone Numbers.

I believe the OP issue is probably using a PAYG SIM that has fallen off the System due to the 6 Month rule of not making s Chargable Call or Text within that period.
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: Andy B on 28 February 2021, 13:50:45
....

I believe the OP issue is probably using a PAYG SIM that has fallen off the System due to the 6 Month rule of not making s Chargable Call or Text within that period.

So those that have a tracker using a PAYG SIM need to trigger the alarm every now & then.  :-\
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: dave the builder on 28 February 2021, 13:56:08
....

I believe the OP issue is probably using a PAYG SIM that has fallen off the System due to the 6 Month rule of not making s Chargable Call or Text within that period.

So those that have a tracker using a PAYG SIM need to trigger the alarm every now & then.  :-\
That's my understanding ,call or text before 6 months is up ,I also top up the minimum every 6 months too
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: zirk on 01 March 2021, 18:20:04
....

I believe the OP issue is probably using a PAYG SIM that has fallen off the System due to the 6 Month rule of not making s Chargable Call or Text within that period.

So those that have a tracker using a PAYG SIM need to trigger the alarm every now & then.  :-\
yep. ;)
Title: Re: Puk code
Post by: woolley11 on 26 March 2021, 11:05:56
Got a new SIM card the other day from Vodaphone.

Once installed and top-up done all works fine 👍