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[Kevin Wood]

.. if you use a couple of shopping cars to make your comparison.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7635303.stm

Surprise, surprise. Putting super unleaded in a Ford Focus 1.6 makes bu66er all difference!

.. and why is this a "Row over quality of super fuels "? They said all fuels tested were "up to the job". Surely it's the Retailers' claims rather than the quality of the fuel that's being disputed?

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Kevin

[Martin_1962]

It is Which and their tests are usually rubbish

[PaulW]

However, putting BP Ultimate or VPower in my little CG125 makes considerable difference

I can actually reach 65mph instead of just 60mph, and it also starts better too when cold

[Kevin Wood]

It is Which and their tests are usually rubbish

That and the BBC's reporting.  

Why don't they get someone who knows their onions to do their testing? That way they can offer sensible advice rather than branding it all a con (which it is, of course, but only in part) and having people whose cars probably rely on super running around on supermarket 95 RON just because it was good enough for Which's Ford Focus.

It seems Which have a policy of making sure their test are carried out by people who haven't got the a clue what they're dealing with.

Kevin

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Cofiming what I always thought.
Expensive petrol has a placebo effect only.

[Lazydocker]

As I have said before... In a standard car there is little or no noticeable difference.  In a high performance/motorcycle application I have noticed a difference.

Of course it's not going to make a difference in a Ford Focus

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

As I have said before... In a standard car there is little or no noticeable difference.  In a high performance/motorcycle application I have noticed a difference.

Of course it's not going to make a difference in a Ford Focus

Yeah....should have said placebo effect in every day cars......Probably of some use in high performance cars.

[cem_devecioglu]

if I'm not wrong modern ECU's anyway compansates the octane differences .. :-/

[jereboam]

It is Which and their tests are usually rubbish

That and the BBC's reporting.  

Why don't they get someone who knows their onions to do their testing? That way they can offer sensible advice rather than branding it all a con (which it is, of course, but only in part) and having people whose cars probably rely on super running around on supermarket 95 RON just because it was good enough for Which's Ford Focus.

It seems Which have a policy of making sure their test are carried out by people who haven't got the a clue what they're dealing with.

Kevin

I was a Which? subscriber for years, and relied on their reports for all my major purchases.  I didn't follow them regardless, because sometimes it was obvious that what they recommended just wasn't for me.  But I always took note of what they said.

Then they started testing computers and the bits that go with them.  While I am definitely not a PC wizard, I've been using all sorts of computers both professionally and privately since I left college in 1966.  After a couple of Which? PC reviews, I cancelled my subscription, and was left wondering how much crap I had believed and how many crap products I had bought on their recommendation.

The level of expertise demonstrated by the Which? testers was abysmal, and it really wasn't clear to me what they thought people used computers for.  

On the other hand, without any technical knowledge whatsoever, I am completely certain that premium fuels are a completely waste of time and money for ordinary road-legal cars.

[Kevin Wood]

I hope people carry on believing it's great for their 1.6 Focus, though, because Super is nice and widely available now, and my fun car pinks a bit on 95 RON .

Then again, maybe less Super pumps would make way for more LPG. :-/

Oh, and I fully agree regarding Which? They seem to deliberately approach products as a dumb consumer and dish out flawed advice as a result. I'm already a dumb consumer, so that's of limited use. If advice isn't from someone who knows what he's talking about it's only useful when printed on rolls of Andrex, IMHO.

Kevin

[theolodian]

My company sled goes from 34mpg on Shell 95 to 37mpg on V-power on the motorway.  Seems pretty clear to me!

[STMO123]

My company sled goes from 34mpg on Shell 95 to 37mpg on V-power on the motorway.  Seems pretty clear to me!

Yeah. But surely the additional mpg is cancelled out by the extra £sd.

[tunnie]

Cofiming what I always thought.
Expensive petrol has a placebo effect only.

Not my experiance!

I had a noticable improvement in performance, and mpg.

Also idle was a LOT smoother.

It is better fuel, Which? always talk 'dangle berries'

[Martin_1962]

Which are known for rubbish opinions

[Lizzie_Zoom]

.. if you use a couple of shopping cars to make your comparison.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7635303.stm

Surprise, surprise. Putting super unleaded in a Ford Focus 1.6 makes bu66er all difference!

.. and why is this a "Row over quality of super fuels "? They said all fuels tested were "up to the job". Surely it's the Retailers' claims rather than the quality of the fuel that's being disputed?

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Kevin

That has really been known for years as any car that is not "high performance" does not benefit from the extra octane.

The last car I put it into on a regular basis was my 3.0 Senator CD, but even then I had real doubts about the benefits of using it in it and when I bought my 3.0 Omega Elite I stopped using the stuff as recommended then by my Vx dealer.

Saved myself a fortune overnight and suffered no loss of performance. 8-) 8-) 8-)