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[Sir Tigger KC]

I've been scanning the car ads on Facebook Marketplace and have noticed a few extremely cheap Disco 4's.  Last night for example there was a nice looking 2014 one with about 78,000 miles for £6000 in Barnstable.  Looking at the sellers profile, he appeared to be a dealer with about 20 cars for sale, but all of the cars he had listed were cheap and each car he had listed were photographed in a totally different place, as if the photos were lifted from ads somewhere else. Also he doesn't mention he is a dealer.

A 2014 Disco 4 for £6000 is obviously too good to be true, unless it's nicked or has a seized engine or something, but this is not the first time I have seen this.

So what's the scam? 

[Sir Tigger KC]

This Range Rover Ad is a good example.

It's a crap advert, but a 2009 Range Rover for £4600 in seemingly good condition? 

The MOT history is sketchy to say the least, and the mileage is recorded at 73,875 in April, but that's very cheap!

Check out the seller details and other items. She has 98 listings mostly cars with a few tractors thrown in! 

What's going on? 

[Raeturbo]

Post the link👍

[Doctor Gollum]

Can't view without a Facebook account.

Be fair to say the whole thing is a scam.

[Raeturbo]

Mm👍

[Sir Tigger KC]

Post the link👍

Just did. See above.

[Raeturbo]

I’d love to catch one of these Fu@ckers in the act🔥

[Raeturbo]

Post the link👍

Just did. See above.

                 Ahh I was posting at the time⏱️

[Sir Tigger KC]

Maybe when you go and look at the car, you get kidnapped and sold into slavery or something?   

[STEMO]

This Range Rover Ad is a good example.

It's a crap advert, but a 2009 Range Rover for £4600 in seemingly good condition? 

The MOT history is sketchy to say the least, and the mileage is recorded at 73,875 in April, but that's very cheap!

Check out the seller details and other items. She has 98 listings mostly cars with a few tractors thrown in! 

What's going on? 

The ad says it's only done 4057 miles. That's how far I'd run away from it.

6 owners in 15 years should tell you it's a basket case.

[Rangie]

If it looks to good to be true then avoid at all costs, far too many con artists around now eager to take your hard earned cash.

[Rangie]

This Range Rover Ad is a good example.

It's a crap advert, but a 2009 Range Rover for £4600 in seemingly good condition? 

The MOT history is sketchy to say the least, and the mileage is recorded at 73,875 in April, but that's very cheap!

Check out the seller details and other items. She has 98 listings mostly cars with a few tractors thrown in! 

What's going on? 

The ad says it's only done 4057 miles. That's how far I'd run away from it.

6 owners in 15 years should tell you it's a basket case.

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Looks like a pikey to me.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I was curious about the sellers rather than the cars to be honest.  Even if that Range Rover is a dog, it's still stupidly cheap and look at all the other cars she has for sale. All very cheap. 

This girl is just one of a few like this I've seen advertising cars so cheap you know it's too good to be true. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Here's another example with a different seller. 2014 Discovery 4 with 61,800 miles £7,600. That's a £15k car all day long.    Even if it is brown! 

The sellers profile looks genuine enough, but again he has 100 listings of mostly nice looking but extremely cheap cars for sale.... 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

They can insist on a a cash only sale, then knock you over the head and rob you when you turn up to pay and collect.
Or even get you to do a bank transfer at that point, then smack you on the nose and drive off with the car.
There was quite a lot of it happening around Barking a few years ago.
If it looks far to good to be true, its 99% certain that it is.
Could always arrange to meet outside a Police station if you can find one thats open and manned by officers who arent nodding off in front of a computer screen. 

[STEMO]

They can insist on a a cash only sale, then knock you over the head and rob you when you turn up to pay and collect.
Or even get you to do a bank transfer at that point, then smack you on the nose and drive off with the car.
There was quite a lot of it happening around Barking a few years ago.
If it looks far to good to be true, its 99% certain that it is.
Could always arrange to meet outside a Police station if you can find one thats open and manned by officers who arent nodding off in front of a computer screen. 

We have a local police station about 100 yards away, they sometimes call in for a crap.

[STEMO]

Here's another example with a different seller. 2014 Discovery 4 with 61,800 miles £7,600. That's a £15k car all day long.    Even if it is brown! 

The sellers profile looks genuine enough, but again he has 100 listings of mostly nice looking but extremely cheap cars for sale.... 

Enquire about one and see what they say. The 'she' advertising the cars might be a 6' 6" trans person with a cock the size of your arm 

[YZ250]

They can insist on a a cash only sale, then knock you over the head and rob you when you turn up to pay and collect.
………..

And there is always the deposit scam. You transfer a deposit to secure a vehicle that doesn’t exist and if they do that enough times it’s money for nothing. There should be special consent to take people who do this sort of thing out to the middle of a field and set fire to them. 

[johnnydog]

Usually, when someone enquiries about one of the advertised cars, they come up with an excuse why the car can't be viewed at that time - ie away on holiday, or currently in hospital after an accident, or visiting Great Aunt Bertha who's on her death bed etc etc. The car or any of the ones advertised for that matter don't exist or the photos are lifted from another site. As they are 'away', as YZ250 says, they suggest paying a 'fully refundable' deposit to secure the vehicle by bank transfer until they are back and you can look at the vehicle; at which point your deposit is gone and that's the last you hear of them. It's an old scam, but people must still fall for it for them to continue doing it...

[JamesV6CDX]

This Range Rover Ad is a good example.

It's a crap advert, but a 2009 Range Rover for £4600 in seemingly good condition? 

The MOT history is sketchy to say the least, and the mileage is recorded at 73,875 in April, but that's very cheap!

Check out the seller details and other items. She has 98 listings mostly cars with a few tractors thrown in! 

What's going on? 

My Range Rover is only 7 years older than that one, and I can’t get a grand for it ….

[JamesV6CDX]

But yes. Looks sus to me given her many many car adverts!

[Rangie]

This Range Rover Ad is a good example.

It's a crap advert, but a 2009 Range Rover for £4600 in seemingly good condition? 

The MOT history is sketchy to say the least, and the mileage is recorded at 73,875 in April, but that's very cheap!

Check out the seller details and other items. She has 98 listings mostly cars with a few tractors thrown in! 

What's going on? 

My Range Rover is only 7 years older than that one, and I can’t get a grand for it ….

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Mines a 2007 RRS cost me £7,000 almost 4 years ago with a very comprehensive service history & low ownership was toying with the idea of getting an SVR offered me £5350 trade in ( SVR £57995) was keen until the insurance quote.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

This Range Rover Ad is a good example.

It's a crap advert, but a 2009 Range Rover for £4600 in seemingly good condition? 

The MOT history is sketchy to say the least, and the mileage is recorded at 73,875 in April, but that's very cheap!

Check out the seller details and other items. She has 98 listings mostly cars with a few tractors thrown in! 

What's going on? 

My Range Rover is only 7 years older than that one, and I can’t get a grand for it ….

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Mines a 2007 RRS cost me £7,000 almost 4 years ago with a very comprehensive service history & low ownership was toying with the idea of getting an SVR offered me £5350 trade in ( SVR £57995) was keen until the insurance quote.

You only live once.

[omega2018]

Here's another example with a different seller. 2014 Discovery 4 with 61,800 miles £7,600. That's a £15k car all day long.    Even if it is brown! 

The sellers profile looks genuine enough, but again he has 100 listings of mostly nice looking but extremely cheap cars for sale.... 

The real owner is asking £22K: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306018038946.  You can often locate the original photos used by the fake facebook dealer with a right mouse click, 'search image with google' then 'find image source'.

[JamesV6CDX]

Here's another example with a different seller. 2014 Discovery 4 with 61,800 miles £7,600. That's a £15k car all day long.    Even if it is brown! 

The sellers profile looks genuine enough, but again he has 100 listings of mostly nice looking but extremely cheap cars for sale.... 

The real owner is asking £22K: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306018038946.  You can often locate the original photos used by the fake facebook dealer with a right mouse click, 'search image with google' then 'find image source'.

Reverse image search... love it

[Sir Tigger KC]

Yes clever! 

Thing is, the Facebook profiles seems genuine enough, so either these people are very stupid or the scam is more sophisticated than it appears. 

[omega2018]

I had the reverse problem - car I wanted was 40% overpriced: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1774931636178655 .  Seller wouldn't negotiate at all.  Consequently car has been 'for sale' for a year.  Seller has over 20 cars 'for sale'. What's that about?

At least their cars are all photographed in the same location, albeit a public place.

I think because Facebook ads are free a lot of weird people waste their time and ours on it.

[TheBoy]

Yes clever! 

Thing is, the Facebook profiles seems genuine enough, so either these people are very stupid or the scam is more sophisticated than it appears. 

You'd be surprised how many people fall for very obvious scams, be that "Microsoft calling to fix you computer", "BT calling to fix your broadband", or people buying shit off people who don't own it.

There are tricks, which I can't say I understand, which are essentially a form of hypnosis, that the better scammers can use when they have you in a 1 on 1 conversation (such as a phone call or face to face).  So if they can initially get you on the hook....

(and those who genuinely believe they are immune and can't be fooled are said to be the easiest to reel in, as long as they can be hooked)

[Sir Tigger KC]

Yes clever! 

Thing is, the Facebook profiles seems genuine enough, so either these people are very stupid or the scam is more sophisticated than it appears. 

You'd be surprised how many people fall for very obvious scams, be that "Microsoft calling to fix you computer", "BT calling to fix your broadband", or people buying shit off people who don't own it.

There are tricks, which I can't say I understand, which are essentially a form of hypnosis, that the better scammers can use when they have you in a 1 on 1 conversation (such as a phone call or face to face).  So if they can initially get you on the hook....

(and those who genuinely believe they are immune and can't be fooled are said to be the easiest to reel in, as long as they can be hooked)

Yes I'm a sucker for a cheap car and if I hadn't looked at the sellers profiles and seen all the listings......   

Thing is Range Rovers and Discos have dropped in price recently due to the cost of fuel and no one wants them. There are loads of Range Rovers that have been advertised for months and the sellers have gradually chipped away at the price, so on the face of it, it wasn't that unbelievable that someone might have to unload one quickly with a low price. 

It was the amount of cheap cars suddenly popping up that attracted my attention. 

[TheBoy]

Yeah, if they are sensisble, they will make it look at the lowest end of realistic prices.  And probably choose vehicles that have been for sale for a fair while

[Sir Tigger KC]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/24017550/woman-facebook-hacked-car-advert-scam/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunmaintwitter&utm_source=Twitter

[Doctor Gollum]

Two from what I can see...

First is to hijack a genuine account to give a credible platform for the second.

Secondly, copy and paste genuine adverts and change the prices to attract greedy stupid people. Get them to transfer money then disappear..

Exactly the same ruse that you? uncovered looking at cheap Discoverys.

[Rangie]

Yes clever! 

Thing is, the Facebook profiles seems genuine enough, so either these people are very stupid or the scam is more sophisticated than it appears. 

You'd be surprised how many people fall for very obvious scams, be that "Microsoft calling to fix you computer", "BT calling to fix your broadband", or people buying shit off people who don't own it.

There are tricks, which I can't say I understand, which are essentially a form of hypnosis, that the better scammers can use when they have you in a 1 on 1 conversation (such as a phone call or face to face).  So if they can initially get you on the hook....

(and those who genuinely believe they are immune and can't be fooled are said to be the easiest to reel in, as long as they can be hooked)

Yes I'm a sucker for a cheap car and if I hadn't looked at the sellers profiles and seen all the listings......   

Thing is Range Rovers and Discos have dropped in price recently due to the cost of fuel and no one wants them. There are loads of Range Rovers that have been advertised for months and the sellers have gradually chipped away at the price, so on the face of it, it wasn't that unbelievable that someone might have to unload one quickly with a low price. 

It was the amount of cheap cars suddenly popping up that attracted my attention. 

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On the RR & RRS owners forums the vehicles for sale in the new ULEZ area are going ridiculously cheap , even some really good ones appear to being broken for spares, but several prospective purchasers of parts are issuing warnings re scammers. If I can get 2-3 years more out of mine it won't owe me a penny & it will be the last diesel I ever own.

[ronnyd]

I had one on my mobile phone just this morning. It started..." Mum the battery has just broken on my phone".  Which was odd, 'cause they usually call me Dad. 

[STEMO]

I had one on my mobile phone just this morning. It started..." Mum the battery has just broken on my phone".  Which was odd, 'cause they usually call me Dad. 

They're a bit transphobic then, Ron?

[ronnyd]

I had one on my mobile phone just this morning. It started..." Mum the battery has just broken on my phone".  Which was odd, 'cause they usually call me Dad. 

They're a bit transphobic then, Ron?

Scamming tvvats more like 

[STEMO]

I had one on my mobile phone just this morning. It started..." Mum the battery has just broken on my phone".  Which was odd, 'cause they usually call me Dad. 

They're a bit transphobic then, Ron?

Scamming tvvats more like 

No, I meant your kids 

[ronnyd]

So did i. 

[STEMO]

https://news.sky.com/story/car-buyers-beware-online-scams-are-soaring-with-the-average-victim-losing-1-000-12969868

[dave the builder]

You'd have to be pretty gullible for someone to scam you into buying a ford fiesta 

[ronnyd]

You'd have to be pretty gullible for someone to scam you into buying a ford fiesta 

But are you in the under 34 age bracket Dave? 

[dave the builder]

You'd have to be pretty gullible for someone to scam you into buying a ford fiesta 

But are you in the under 34 age bracket Dave? 

I'm now old enough to be scammed into an "over 50s plan"