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Are these wishbones any good?
« on: 12 February 2007, 22:26:52 »
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« Reply #1 on: 12 February 2007, 23:41:40 »
Yes they are.

I have bought 5 lots from them now. Always arrive quickly and do the job everytime. Buy with confidence.

(wish I was on commission!!!!!!) ;D

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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
« Reply #2 on: 13 February 2007, 03:05:57 »
Is says on the listing brand new Vauxhall part?

Surely not genuine at that price?

Either way, if they're any good, then it's a bargain....
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
« Reply #3 on: 13 February 2007, 07:57:51 »
Quality wise they are middle of the road....not the best but, not the worst either....they would be rated better if they had the horizontal bush fitted straight!
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« Reply #4 on: 13 February 2007, 08:01:32 »
I wondered why my car went straight and yours pulled to the left mark! :)

No they are NOT genuine Vauxhall ones, they are pattern parts. But they do fit well and have done the job for me on several cars now.
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
« Reply #5 on: 13 February 2007, 08:08:23 »
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I wondered why my car went straight and yours pulled to the left mark! :)


Thats because I spend all my time sorting every body elses car and not my own.... :y

All my tyres are legal and the brakes and headlights work  ;D
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
« Reply #6 on: 13 February 2007, 09:20:57 »
Excellent, that's what I wanted to hear. I knew I wouldn't be getting the best quality at that price, but I can't afford Vauxhall prices at the moment.

Best get a set ordered then.
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
« Reply #7 on: 13 February 2007, 13:38:51 »
Any idea how long these will last?

I'm several months past needing to change mine and I'm considering getting a set of these myself.  I do mostly motorway driving and not too many speedhumps.

Never changed wishbones before, so it'll be a 'learning' experience, but I know there's a guide.  Should be interesting!

How much are the genuine wishbones?  (just out of interest!)
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
« Reply #8 on: 13 February 2007, 15:30:52 »
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As above really.

Are they any good, they're quite cheap aren't they?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Omega-Wishbones-x-2-NEW-PART_W0QQitemZ330086536124QQihZ014QQcategoryZ10404QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Just out of interest would you use new bolts each time you do a Wishbone change as mine will need doing soon, and I guess the alignment would need doing afterwards not just tracking.
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
« Reply #9 on: 13 February 2007, 19:18:34 »
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
« Reply #10 on: 13 February 2007, 19:54:21 »
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Any idea how long these will last?

I'm several months past needing to change mine and I'm considering getting a set of these myself.  I do mostly motorway driving and not too many speedhumps.

Never changed wishbones before, so it'll be a 'learning' experience, but I know there's a guide.  Should be interesting!

How much are the genuine wishbones?  (just out of interest!)
I managed to do mine using the guide on here and one elsewhere. I ended up removing the old drop link, remove the track rod end too, then once the horizontal bush is out this gives you a fair amount of play in the strut so you can then get the wishbone balljoint out of the knuckle. Once that's done you can then hold the strut towards you and wiggle the wishbone free with it horizontal (the vertical bush won't come out otherwise).

Have yet to see how long they last, but I heard Vx wishbones are about £160 EACH  :o
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
« Reply #11 on: 13 February 2007, 21:29:01 »
I have to say the rear vertical bush on one of my VSC wishbones failed after 8,000 miles.

Can't fault VSC otherwise have bought a few bits from them, the prices are good and the parts turn up promptly.

I have now replaced the wishbones with ones from buypartsby.co.uk. I'd say the buypartsby wishbones are slightly better made.
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
« Reply #12 on: 14 February 2007, 07:31:41 »
Aha... I was sure that I remember someone's replacement wishbones failing after only 8,000 miles...  I don't fancy changing wishbones every other oil change  :-/

Anyone else got a rough mileage for their replacement wishbones?
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
« Reply #13 on: 14 February 2007, 09:33:38 »
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Aha... I was sure that I remember someone's replacement wishbones failing after only 8,000 miles...  I don't fancy changing wishbones every other oil change  :-/

Anyone else got a rough mileage for their replacement wishbones?
I changed mine at 104k, now on 139k, M_DTM reckons they still OK.  Mind you, they were genuines, when genuines were £72 retail.....
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
« Reply #14 on: 14 February 2007, 10:53:49 »
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Aha... I was sure that I remember someone's replacement wishbones failing after only 8,000 miles...  I don't fancy changing wishbones every other oil change  :-/

Anyone else got a rough mileage for their replacement wishbones?
I changed mine at 104k, now on 139k, M_DTM reckons they still OK.  Mind you, they were genuines, when genuines were £72 retail.....

Mine want changing @ 41K :(

How much are genuines now? (TC price).
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
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Aha... I was sure that I remember someone's replacement wishbones failing after only 8,000 miles...  I don't fancy changing wishbones every other oil change  :-/

Anyone else got a rough mileage for their replacement wishbones?
I changed mine at 104k, now on 139k, M_DTM reckons they still OK.  Mind you, they were genuines, when genuines were £72 retail.....

Mine want changing @ 41K :(

How much are genuines now? (TC price).
£170ish each, not TC item any more...
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Aha... I was sure that I remember someone's replacement wishbones failing after only 8,000 miles...  I don't fancy changing wishbones every other oil change  :-/

Anyone else got a rough mileage for their replacement wishbones?
I changed mine at 104k, now on 139k, M_DTM reckons they still OK.  Mind you, they were genuines, when genuines were £72 retail.....

Mine want changing @ 41K :(

How much are genuines now? (TC price).
£170ish each, not TC item any more...

Going for a lie down in a dark room :(
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
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Aha... I was sure that I remember someone's replacement wishbones failing after only 8,000 miles...  I don't fancy changing wishbones every other oil change  :-/

Anyone else got a rough mileage for their replacement wishbones?
I changed mine at 104k, now on 139k, M_DTM reckons they still OK.  Mind you, they were genuines, when genuines were £72 retail.....

Mine want changing @ 41K :(

How much are genuines now? (TC price).
£170ish each, not TC item any more...
If pattern parts last 40K how long would those have to last to be worthwhile?  :o

Rhetorical question, I can do math ::)
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
« Reply #18 on: 14 February 2007, 12:51:37 »
Isn't it cheaper to change the bushes?

There's only one bush gone on mine.
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
« Reply #19 on: 14 February 2007, 13:39:20 »
I've just spoken to Autovaux for a price of the wishbones, and they want £45 each. They're not GM but they are made by the same manufacturer.
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« Reply #20 on: 14 February 2007, 13:54:39 »
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They're not GM but they are made by the same manufacturer.
HP beans are made by HJ Heinz, but they're different!!  ::)
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« Reply #21 on: 14 February 2007, 16:18:56 »
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They're not GM but they are made by the same manufacturer.
HP beans are made by HJ Heinz, but they're different!!  ::)
yep, kinda like Bosal make OEM exhausts and aftermarket replacements - only the OEM ones tend to be double-skinned, replacements only single skinned ... having said that though, I did replace the track rods on my old miggy with parts from Autovaux and it has to be said that the replacement parts looked identical to the originals (mind you though they themselves could have been replacements I guess !!!)
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They're not GM but they are made by the same manufacturer.
HP beans are made by HJ Heinz, but they're different!!  ::)
yep, kinda like Bosal make OEM exhausts and aftermarket replacements - only the OEM ones tend to be double-skinned, replacements only single skinned ... having said that though, I did replace the track rods on my old miggy with parts from Autovaux and it has to be said that the replacement parts looked identical to the originals (mind you though they themselves could have been replacements I guess !!!)

The trackrod ends from Autovaux are genuine-GM, as I asked when I was enquiring about prices before.
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« Reply #23 on: 14 February 2007, 22:15:09 »
Trust me. I have used these exact same wishbones and they are fine.
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« Reply #24 on: 14 February 2007, 22:19:32 »
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Trust me. I have used these exact same wishbones and they are fine.
Have you owned one of your 25,000 Omegas long enough to know how they last  :P
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« Reply #25 on: 15 February 2007, 10:05:31 »
Wishbones are covered under his no quibble 12min/12 miles warranty that goes with each car.

Never had a return yet! ;)
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« Reply #26 on: 15 February 2007, 14:56:59 »
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As above really.

Are they any good, they're quite cheap aren't they?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Omega-Wishbones-x-2-NEW-PART_W0QQitemZ330086536124QQihZ014QQcategoryZ10404QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Just out of interest would you use new bolts each time you do a Wishbone change as mine will need doing soon, and I guess the alignment would need doing afterwards not just tracking.

Can anyone confirm/answer my original question as I am tempted to get the garage to do mine again, instead of doing the job myself.

Cheers in advance :y
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Re: Are these wishbones any good?
« Reply #27 on: 15 February 2007, 15:08:41 »
New bolts are NOT required.....
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« Reply #28 on: 15 February 2007, 15:10:29 »
Had the first Omega for about 8 months. Latest one for nearly a year. Both had wishbones immedaietly and both were fine.

Don't need new bolts.

Tracking will need checking.
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« Reply #29 on: 15 February 2007, 15:27:20 »
Cheers for the response back guys :y still  :-/
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« Reply #30 on: 15 February 2007, 18:58:20 »
changing the wishbones isn't too bad to do ... but ...

just one question - when tightening the bolts on the horizontal bush (ie, at the end nearest the front of the car), how are you meant to achieve this with the wheels on the ground if you don't have a pit or 4-poster, 1/2" torque wrenches are pretty long!

is it possible to jack the car, then put an exle stand under the the wishbone (with a block of wood between the two) and then tighten the bolt as the car's weight would then be on the wishbone similar to it being on the ground?  :-?
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« Reply #31 on: 15 February 2007, 19:17:51 »
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changing the wishbones isn't too bad to do ... but ...

just one question - when tightening the bolts on the horizontal bush (ie, at the end nearest the front of the car), how are you meant to achieve this with the wheels on the ground if you don't have a pit or 4-poster, 1/2" torque wrenches are pretty long!

is it possible to jack the car, then put an exle stand under the the wishbone (with a block of wood between the two) and then tighten the bolt as the car's weight would then be on the wishbone similar to it being on the ground?  :-?
I would nip up as tight as poss on ground, then final torquing back up in air...
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« Reply #32 on: 15 February 2007, 19:21:43 »
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I would nip up as tight as poss on ground, then final torquing back up in air...
cool, 'cos that's what I did  :y
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« Reply #33 on: 15 February 2007, 20:50:06 »
You can do that - if you like doing things the hard way. You could also park with one side on a high kerb. Crawl under and tighten, then turn car round and repeat.

Maybe just me, but bloody easy by comparison!
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« Reply #34 on: 15 February 2007, 20:57:44 »
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You can do that - if you like doing things the hard way. You could also park with one side on a high kerb. Crawl under and tighten, then turn car round and repeat.

Maybe just me, but bloody easy by comparison!

Could we add a high kerb to the tool pool? ::)
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« Reply #35 on: 16 February 2007, 10:28:26 »
Use ramps, the weight is still on the wheels and the front of the car will be raised about 20cm.
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« Reply #36 on: 16 February 2007, 18:40:16 »
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Use ramps, the weight is still on the wheels and the front of the car will be raised about 20cm.
yeah ... did consider that one, but it appears most ramps will take tyres up to about 200mm ... the tyres on 17" facelift alloys are 235's ... ??
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« Reply #37 on: 18 February 2007, 21:50:24 »
The ramps I use are as old as the hills (my dad's had them as far back as I can remember), and they work fine for the Omega with 235/45x17 tyres.
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