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Re: Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« Reply #30 on: 09 November 2016, 20:58:51 »

Realised there was some sort of blockage in the CH system after draining it down, as the system would not refill via the header tank, read somewhere on a plumbers /DIY site that the likely cause could be a pipe blockage somewhere between the CH header tank and pump, and it was likely to be near a bend in the cold feed pipe as it joins the CH hot water part of the circuit - it was, and so chopped out the offending pipe section and was able to unblock it and refit /replace using a couple of compression connectors inclusive of an isolation valve  located above the repair so that it was easier for me to maintain/repair anything else should the need arise at some later point ie replace  ball cock valve and/or connector without the need to drain the system down to work above the repair location.
Did take some photos of the rough job that I did, but its still holding up ok so far
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Re: Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« Reply #31 on: 09 November 2016, 21:22:28 »

I didn't do anything to this today, but I've had a scan of the DIY forums and I think that you're right that this is the cause.  :y

I've been scratching my head as to why there is so much air in the system that I can't bleed out, but if the feed pipe is blocked then air can't escape either as it's a combined feed/vent pipe.  ::)

A good tip on one of the forums was to run a magnet along the pipe as the sludge will attract the magnet and then hopefully you find the blockage.  I guess it's corrosion from the cast iron heat exchanger.  :-\

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Re: Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« Reply #32 on: 09 November 2016, 21:27:06 »

One of my rads is hot at the top and lukewarm at the bottom. Ive bled it several times but it makes no difference.
Any ideas ? Preferably simple ones, as I know three fifths of fick all about heating.  :)
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« Reply #33 on: 09 November 2016, 21:28:10 »

One of my lads is hot at the top and lukewarm at the bottom. Ive bled it several times but it makes no difference.
There...that's much more interesting.
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« Reply #34 on: 09 November 2016, 21:35:11 »

You aint right in the head.  ;D ;D
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Re: Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« Reply #35 on: 09 November 2016, 21:44:56 »

One of my rads is hot at the top and lukewarm at the bottom. Ive bled it several times but it makes no difference.
Any ideas ? Preferably simple ones, as I know three fifths of fick all about heating.  :)

Your rad is probably full of sludge at the bottom. You can turn off both valves and carefully drain the rad by carefully loosening the connector nuts at the rad.  I use a bit of polythene to direct the water into a paint tray and it's a bit of a slow process as you have to tighten up the nut to stop the flow and empty the paint tray into a bucket a few times.  ::)

When it's empty, fully disconnect the pipes, Lift rad off wall, take outside and flush with garden hose in much the same way you would a car rad.  :y

Reassemble, open valves, bleed the rad and hopefully jobs a goodun!  :)

Now someone will come along and tell you a much easier way!!  ;D
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Re: Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« Reply #36 on: 09 November 2016, 21:46:35 »

Brilliant, thanks. I will get straight on it sometime within the next year or two.  :y  :D
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Re: Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« Reply #37 on: 10 November 2016, 08:41:01 »

Brilliant, thanks. I will get straight on it sometime within the next year or two.  :y  :D
No need to rush ;D ;D
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Re: Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« Reply #38 on: 10 November 2016, 13:34:45 »

So it looks as though I've got big problems here.  :( 

I can't drain the system!  As I write I have 2 drain cocks open with hoses going outside with nothing coming out!

If I open bleed valves on the radiators water comes out and I've tried sucking/blowing down the hoses with no success.  It looks like it's clogged up solid... :-\



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« Reply #39 on: 10 November 2016, 13:40:58 »

Make sure the hose on the drain off cock is (very) secure and give it a quick blast from the kitchen tap (mains pressure). It may encourage it to start flowing.
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Re: Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« Reply #40 on: 10 November 2016, 13:47:58 »

Make sure the hose on the drain off cock is (very) secure and give it a quick blast from the kitchen tap (mains pressure). It may encourage it to start flowing.

There is a third drain cock so I'll attach a hose to that and give that a quick blast!  :y

To top it off my dishwasher kakked itself last night!  ::)  The bloody place is falling apart!  :-\  ;D
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Re: Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« Reply #41 on: 10 November 2016, 13:50:51 »

Make sure the hose on the drain off cock is (very) secure and give it a quick blast from the kitchen tap (mains pressure). It may encourage it to start flowing.

There is a third drain cock so I'll attach a hose to that and give that a quick blast!  :y

To top it off my dishwasher kakked itself last night!  ::)  The bloody place is falling apart!  :-\  ;D
Did owning an omega not teach you anything about preventative maintenance?  ;D
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« Reply #42 on: 10 November 2016, 13:52:41 »

I'm the dishwasher in this house and I've been known to cack meself.  ;D
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Re: Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« Reply #43 on: 10 November 2016, 14:02:36 »

I'm the dishwasher in this house and I've been known to cack meself.  ;D

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Re: Central Heating playing up!!! Brrr!!!
« Reply #44 on: 10 November 2016, 15:38:33 »

So it looks as though I've got big problems here.  :( 

I can't drain the system!  As I write I have 2 drain cocks open with hoses going outside with nothing coming out!

If I open bleed valves on the radiators water comes out and I've tried sucking/blowing down the hoses with no success.  It looks like it's clogged up solid... :-\
Very common for the rubber washer in a drain cock to weld itself in place - you might have to pull the guts out with a pair of pliers or mole/vice grips to get things flowing.
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