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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: razzo on 18 July 2021, 19:15:56

Title: Focus ST 225
Post by: razzo on 18 July 2021, 19:15:56
Restoring the Volvo 2.5 5 pot engine in a Focus but have found threads for the offside engine mount to be damaged. To far gone to restore with an m12 x 1.75 tap so will need to be helicoiled, block is Ali so any tips for getting this right first time as it is still in the car & is it worth changing fixing from bolt to stud, head size is 15mm, length is about 50mm & should be torqued to 115nm

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Title: Re: Focus ST 225
Post by: Nick W on 18 July 2021, 19:22:38
You only get one chance of drilling out the hole so that it is where it needs to be, perpendicular to the surface, doesn't break into the rest of the block and the correct size. The existing hole will make that trickier than drilling a new one.


Then you have to do the same thing with the tap.


I would be making a simple jig to align the drill bit and to stop it wandering.
Title: Re: Focus ST 225
Post by: razzo on 19 July 2021, 18:13:12
Thanks Nick, was thinking about a jig but wondered if it’s worth changing thread size to m12x1.25 as that needs a 10.8 mm drill but m12 x1.75 needs a 10.2 mm & changing fixing to stud so may get away with just rethreading rather than drilling?
Title: Re: Focus ST 225
Post by: Nick W on 19 July 2021, 18:21:51
Thanks Nick, was thinking about a jig but wondered if it’s worth changing thread size to m12x1.25 as that needs a 10.8 mm drill but m12 x1.75 needs a 10.2 mm & changing fixing to stud so may get away with just rethreading rather than drilling?


A tapped thread needs to be in a correctly sized and round hole. If you're being really critical, you would drill and ream before tapping. Trying to retap coarse to fine starts with neither of those things, so is going to end in tears. And is one of the reasons why Helicoils(and other similar repairs) are readily available.
Title: Re: Focus ST 225
Post by: biggriffin on 24 July 2021, 12:52:42
1st question? Will they be keeping the car forever? If no,, then use the coarse bolt with a slot cut in, and some epoxy glue,, whack it in job done.  If it's a long term keeper then do as Nickw has advised.
Title: Re: Focus ST 225
Post by: Nick W on 24 July 2021, 21:38:17
1st question? Will they be keeping the car forever? If no,, then use the coarse bolt with a slot cut in, and some epoxy glue,, whack it in job done.  If it's a long term keeper then do as Nickw has advised.


I would buy one of the Loctite products that is designed for that sort of 'repair' rather than epoxy.


Using a fixed stud instead of a bolt is worth considering, but will you then be able to assemble the mount?
Title: Re: Focus ST 225
Post by: razzo on 27 July 2021, 17:28:58
Have managed to get hold of an old engine mount & thinking of cutting it down to use as a jig, with the idea of bolting into one hole & drilling then tapping & helicoiling the other hole, when done swap fixing over to sort original. Helicoil drill belt is a very snug fit in old mount so any other pit falls I need to be aware of?