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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: john1959 on 27 April 2023, 22:55:01

Title: ncdc2013
Post by: john1959 on 27 April 2023, 22:55:01
just tried replacement ncdc2013 bose as original one knackered.put it in it works great but comes up on screen display safe.dont know what that means ,got the paired screen aswell but  no code,any idea on the way forward?cheers
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 April 2023, 10:15:18
Safe means it's missing the code.

If they're a matched pair the entering the code should make it work.

If they're not, then you have a really bulky coaster.
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: TheBoy on 28 April 2023, 12:39:39
Assuming you dont have a tech2 to hand, and the pairing codes for both the original and replacement, the Headunit (with CD Changer), Screen and Telematics (on 2015) need to be kept together, as they are all security paired to each other.
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: TheBoy on 28 April 2023, 12:40:27
And no code to enter on any component.  The pairing code can only be entered or removed by a tech2 or similar device.
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: john1959 on 28 April 2023, 17:21:25
thanx,i have the code for original but no sound as its kaput thats why i got another ncdc 2013 with screen .head works great but need to change the screen to have them together.dont know how to change screen.then no code for the new pair as they are paired and its colour screen.maybe im going nowhere without the code.
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 April 2023, 17:27:28
If the replacement head unit and screen are paired already then it should just work.

Unless you've locked out the new head unit by connecting it to a different screen.
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: john1959 on 28 April 2023, 17:30:08
i took old head out 1st and put new head in didnt change the screen as i dont know how head worked like new after 3or 4 mins screen showed display safe thats it.but great sound
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: TheBoy on 28 April 2023, 19:16:40
Start at the beginning.

So it originally had an NCDC2013 and what type of screen? Both paired together?

The replacement is an NCDC2013 and a CID, which are paired together?



If yours had a GID (see Display Types in Info sections of forum), then you need to check if you have the CID cable tucked up behind the screen area of dash - usually wrapped in masking tape, but not all have the CID cabling.  If you don't have the CID cabling, it's not hard to fit, but I'm reading between the lines that it may be a struggle for you?  The CID will work without it, but you won't be able to use the map display of the sat nav.

There is a guide how to get the dash out to change the screen.



Option 2, if yous has no sound, swap the lower rear board of the top unit over inside the NCDC.  That board is not coded, so can be swapped at will.  I get a feeling I wrote a guide, but that might have been NCDC CD Charnger board ;D
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: VXL V6 on 28 April 2023, 19:30:48
Option 2, if yous has no sound, swap the lower rear board of the top unit over inside the NCDC.  That board is not coded, so can be swapped at will.  I get a feeling I wrote a guide, but that might have been NCDC CD Charnger board ;D

I think I wrote that one....  ;) ;D
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: TheBoy on 29 April 2023, 08:54:24
Option 2, if yous has no sound, swap the lower rear board of the top unit over inside the NCDC.  That board is not coded, so can be swapped at will.  I get a feeling I wrote a guide, but that might have been NCDC CD Charnger board ;D

I think I wrote that one....  ;) ;D
Ah, possibly ;D.  I know I've seen one ;D, And as you and I are probably the ones with the most in depth knowledge of the NCDC system, it would likely be one of us!
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: john1959 on 29 April 2023, 12:38:58
new ncdc13  and screen colour! sucessfully fitted backs killing me.just need to know where to get the little screws from to secure the head.yes the boy i found the the colour socket behind the dash taped up and fitted it thankyou all for your help. ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: TheBoy on 30 April 2023, 09:36:50
The little grub screws you put in where the extraction keys go?  They are purely aesthetic.  If you want them, they are bog standard grub screws with an allen head, available from just about anywhere.  Not sure of size, as don't have one to measure.


Glad you sorted the issue though :y
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 03 May 2023, 13:36:37
I must have a go at sorting mine out at some point. Several problems have popped up over the last year. CD changer cartridge is stuck and wont come out.
Radio seems to like going to LBC despite me selecting a different station, and sometimes selects NAV when I selected another option.
Could put the original with mono screen back in, but I like the colour screen.
Sourcing another one might actually be the best option I suppose.
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: VXL V6 on 03 May 2023, 19:47:31
I must have a go at sorting mine out at some point. Several problems have popped up over the last year. CD changer cartridge is stuck and wont come out.
Radio seems to like going to LBC despite me selecting a different station, and sometimes selects NAV when I selected another option.
Could put the original with mono screen back in, but I like the colour screen.
Sourcing another one might actually be the best option I suppose.

Does the NCDC2013 paired to the GID work? Easy enough to repair the NCDC2013 paired with the CID if it does.
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 03 May 2023, 20:02:17
It worked fine when I took it out of the car about 6 years ago. Stored in a nice dry place ever since, so hopefully still ok.  :y
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: VXL V6 on 04 May 2023, 09:15:41
In theory its a case of swapping the vertical board in the existing HU CD Changer into the removed HU then slotting that into the car. I would just check with TheBoy in case i'm missing something there.
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: TheBoy on 04 May 2023, 16:49:51
The bits that have to stay together on a NCDC2013 are:
Front board in top half of NCDC2013
Vertical board on CD Changer (bottom half of NCDC2013)
Middle board from CID

If NCDC2015, all the above, and the large board in the telematics.
Title: Re: ncdc2013
Post by: VXL V6 on 04 May 2023, 20:28:31
I forgot the top board doh.

But you have all the bits to make one good unit.