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[addy]

Hi

I am sure it is somewhere but, I cann't find the post about front brake calipers.   Passenger side the piston has frozen. Undid the hose and it made no difference, it had still locked the disc. I cann't see the reference number on mine. 

Would these calipers fit my 2002 2.6 Auto saloon?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153899073397

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402227466756?fits=Model%3AOmega&epid=1427535446&hash=item5da6a01204:g:nw8AAOSw23lZuoIW

Thanks in advance for any help.
Addy

[TheBoy]

All V6 front calipers are the same (only pre 97 2.0l ones are different).

[addy]

Thanks for the reply. The ones that I have found, on EBAY. I cannot buy as there is something wrong with the company, selling them.

[Mr Skrunts]

Some times they are listed on Euro Car Parts.

Just checked they currently only have the left rear caliper on offer, but maybe worth giving them a ring to see if then can obtain them for you.

[Mr Skrunts]

Pagid Caliper (Rear Left)
Product Code: 133720511
Pagid Caliper (Rear Left)
In StockFree delivery for orders above £25*
£39.59

[Doctor Gollum]

Pagid Caliper (Rear Left)
Product Code: 133720511
Pagid Caliper (Rear Left)
In StockFree delivery for orders above £25*
£39.59

Not suitable for the any vehicle with vented rear discs, including the 2.6/3.2 Omega.

[addy]

Would anyone know, the size and threads of the bleed valves for the LUCAS 2.6 front brakes?  I have got the piston out, and the bore is just dirty so I am going to clean it up. Then get a rebuild kit, with new pistons and seals.

Thanks for any help.

[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

Would anyone know, the size and threads of the bleed valves for the LUCAS 2.6 front brakes?  I have got the piston out, and the bore is just dirty so I am going to clean it up. Then get a rebuild kit, with new pistons and seals.

Thanks for any help.

M8 x 1.25 if memory serves

[addy]

Thanks for that GastronomicKleptomaniac. The piston took ages to come out. The bleed valves are worn, so will replace them.

[Andy B]

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Passenger side the piston has frozen.  ....

seized .... 

[addy]

Andy B. It certainly was seized. No wander the brake was stuck solid. 

[Doctor Gollum]

He was wondering... 

[Andy B]

He was wondering... 

I didn't like to comment ..... 

[addy]

Andy B.
I am not one of those people, who get upset. When someone says something. I am old school everyone has the right, to ask questions. And answer or correct if they can. I am still learning stuff, after the stroke, so please keep doing what you are doing now.

[Doctor Gollum]

No offence meant Addy

It was an easy, friendly jibe at Andy B's preference for East Atlantic english as opposed to West Atlantic english

[addy]

None taken. I have a warped sense of humour. Just ask GastronomicKleptomaniac. Caught him out a few times, but he is getting to know me better now. 

[Andy B]

....
 I am still learning stuff, after the stroke,  .....

Sorry Addy .... I didn't know. 
I know my Father-in-law had problems trying to remember words too after his stroke years back. He got there in the end. 

[addy]

Andy B. No need to apologise. I took it the way that you meant, as fun.   Yep conversations, can be quite fun at times. But I look at it, that at least I can still do stuff unlike some of the patients, in the stroke ward. You keep on having a sense of humour, it is the only way to get through each day, of this crazy world.

Addy

[cam.in.head]

cleaning the piston and bore and then fitting new seal and boot with a good smidging of rubber grease should see the caliper back to full operation for many more years.
may then be best to do the other side as well to get matched performance.
not forgetting the slide pins with the correct silicone grease.

front calipers can and do seize ,usually due to a split boot but its more common for the rear calipers in my experience.

[Andy B]

Andy B. No need to apologise. I took it the way that you meant, as fun.   Yep conversations, can be quite fun at times. But I look at it, that at least I can still do stuff unlike some of the patients, in the stroke ward. You keep on having a sense of humour, it is the only way to get through each day, of this crazy world.

Addy

[Andy B]

cleaning the piston and bore and then fitting new seal and boot with a good smidging of rubber grease should see the caliper back to full operation for many more years.
may then be best to do the other side as well to get matched performance.
not forgetting the slide pins with the correct silicone grease.

front calipers can and do seize ,usually due to a split boot but its more common for the rear calipers in my experience.

I recently replaced the piston & seals in a caliper on my daughter's car. For the £20 or so for the kit, it didn't seem worth even trying to clean the piston up. The kit came from Brakes International  ...

[biggriffin]

https://www.biggred.co.uk/vehicle/categories

Used these on a few occasions 

[chrisp]

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Passenger side the piston has frozen.  ....

seized .... 

The term "frozen" is used in the US instead of "seized" - apologies if I'm stating the obvious!. The differences between UK and US auto terms are quite numerous. We all know about wings/fenders, bonnets/hoods, boots/trunks but the one that puzzles me is the term "rocker panels" which are the under-door sills in UK terminology. Where did that come from?

[Doctor Gollum]

It's a traditional coach building term

[Andy B]

....
Passenger side the piston has frozen.  ....

seized .... 

The term "frozen" is used in the US instead of "seized" - apologies if I'm stating the obvious!. The differences between UK and US auto terms are quite numerous. We all know about wings/fenders, bonnets/hoods, boots/trunks but the one that puzzles me is the term "rocker panels" which are the under-door sills in UK terminology. Where did that come from?

America & Britain divided by a common language 

[Doctor Gollum]

....
Passenger side the piston has frozen.  ....

seized .... 

The term "frozen" is used in the US instead of "seized" - apologies if I'm stating the obvious!. The differences between UK and US auto terms are quite numerous. We all know about wings/fenders, bonnets/hoods, boots/trunks but the one that puzzles me is the term "rocker panels" which are the under-door sills in UK terminology. Where did that come from?

America & Britain divided by a common language 

And 4,000 kilometres of water

[Andy B]

....
And 4,000 kilometres of water

How far's that in English/American? 

[Doctor Gollum]

....
And 4,000 kilometres of water

How far's that in English/American? 

About twenty-five hundred yards... 

[addy]

Would any body have the exact length of bleed valve that I am looking for? Found different lengths in M8x1.25.

Found this one. Is it correct size length of threads? Just the length of threads on the one from the caliper are 10mm. Overall length is 38mm. Only the last 3mm of thread was inside the bleed hole. Does this sound like the proper factory fitted one? Reason asking is that the outer piston seal is in good condition, but the actual piston is pitted.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362044617197?hash=item544b8a71ed:g:EVMAAOSwOjpZcHvO

Thanks for any help.
Addy

[addy]

The bleed valve from the caliper. I chewed it up getting it out.

[Doctor Gollum]

As long as it seats fully before the running out of thread, then I would think that the length is almost irrelevant.

Obviously using one 100mm long would be ridiculous, but 37-43mm is probably a reasonable range 

[Enceladus]

This post seems to be what you need.

If anyone needs the front brake screws for the Lucas caliper I have found they are M8's, pitch is 1.25 (this is the coarser thread option), the total length is 41.5mm and the spanner size is 9mm.  I couldn't find many people selling the right length but Big Red Ltd sell them on their website and on eBay - their part number is BRB880010.

[addy]

Just a quick update on the Brakes on my 2002 2.6 Auto. The square seal inside the brake caliper piston chamber, was worn also the piston itself was pitted but the actual chamber is damage free. So got new bleeder valves. They are shorter but do shut off the bleed chamber. Also got the Big Red caliper repair kit with new pistons. It only comes with silicone grease in it. I put the caliper to soak in a Electrolysis bath, to remove all the crud, then wire brushed it, also got some soft dremel wire brushes, to clean out both the seal and dust cover slotsnow it looks alot better.

I have a EEZIBLEED KIT, which I understand work great. I was thinking of doing a full flush, on the system. As it just past with 50% breaking efficiency on the MOT. I did seal off the brake hose on the caliper, before removing it. With the EEZIBleed would it be as simple, do the normal bleed routine. If there is any air in the ABS, which I am hoping there isn't. Would the EEZibleed push it out? I do have access to "My Naff Code Reader", that I have read can activate the ABS. But do I need to know anything, like the version of ABS on the car?

1 - Nearside rear
2 - Offside rear
3 - Nearside front
4 - Offside front

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/312585043909
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283288101369

Thanks again for all the help, everyone has given. It is much appreciated.
Addy

[cam.in.head]

eezibleed will work fine but as its a front caliper it will gravity bleed itself slowly without it and you should end up with a perfect pedal as is. then use the eezy bleeder to do all the others especially if thry havnt been done for a year or few.
always worth greasing up the bleeder screws as well whilst theyre ok