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Title: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 28 May 2022, 15:39:32
I've just been out to pull my Omega forward
sounded like thunder on start up and i kind of knew  >:(
both cats gone ,i need to look how much damage is done ,probably jacking up damage etc too
then check my CCTV
Just what i didn't need right now  :(
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: GrahamK on 28 May 2022, 16:29:40
Sorry to hear that!
What a complete Bas****

Hope you have a clear pic on the CCTV of the responsible scroats.

Good luck.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 May 2022, 18:09:12
That’s a bloody shame, and I hope those responsible get caught (eventually!). >:( >:(
Certainly not what you want anytime, let alone now :(


Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 28 May 2022, 18:26:02
2 blokes at 2.42am . took them 5 mins from pulling up to driving off .
One did the work while the other stood lookout/on guard ,swinging a 2 foot long scaffold tube or similar .
From what i can see (not jacked it up or put on ramps yet) just the main cats ,cut with a shear ( what is left of pipes oval)
looks like about £500 worth for ME to sort with aftermarket shyte  ::)
not much chance of getting genuine though  ;D
days lost waiting for parts ,My mum has dementia ,so i have to visit her a lot . 
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Raeturbo on 28 May 2022, 19:35:46
I really hope there’s some way you can catch them mate,I hate these parasites 😡
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Andy B on 28 May 2022, 19:43:22
 >:( >:( >:( >:(
 
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 28 May 2022, 20:11:09
looks like enough pipe left (once trimmed back to round)  to sleeve where the cats used to be with some old exhaust section and clamps ,maybe  :-\ temporary fix till i get new aftermarket cats , i'll look tomorrow .
If not then i'll be slumming it in an astra  ::)

Thanks for the kind words of support  :)

I hope the thieving scums jack collapses sometime soon ,harsh I know, but i've no time for such selfish ****s  >:(
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: VXL V6 on 28 May 2022, 20:32:32
Probably too far from you and the scrap yard may have already removed / crushed my old daily but I can pass you the phone number of the scrapyard I sold my old daily too if that helps.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 28 May 2022, 20:39:02
Probably too far from you and the scrap yard may have already removed / crushed my old daily but I can pass you the phone number of the scrapyard I sold my old daily too if that helps.
Thanks , It might be worth a call , if you could PM their details that would be great  :)
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 28 May 2022, 20:42:52
You have a PM from me too :y
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 28 May 2022, 20:48:43
You have a PM from me too :y
Thanks , just replied  :)
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 May 2022, 13:29:35
Opportunist Happygolikeys or more organised?  :-\
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: TheBoy on 29 May 2022, 14:58:25
Probably too far from you and the scrap yard may have already removed / crushed my old daily but I can pass you the phone number of the scrapyard I sold my old daily too if that helps.
The 2.6/3.2 are different to the earlier 2.5/3.0l
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: TheBoy on 29 May 2022, 14:59:38
Opportunist Happygolikeys or more organised?  :-\
Guessing organised enough to know that the better 2.5/3.0 cats are worth good money, unlike the crap fitted to later Omegas that probably won't fetch a tenner.


I thought this shit was a thing of the past now :(
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 May 2022, 15:49:06
Opportunist Happygolikeys or more organised?  :-\
Guessing organised enough to know that the better 2.5/3.0 cats are worth good money, unlike the crap fitted to later Omegas that probably won't fetch a tenner.


I thought this shit was a thing of the past now :(
Not even close >:(
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Rangie on 29 May 2022, 16:12:52
Toyotas & Hondas are the main targets in our local area , been several warnings to owners in our area to use a garage at night if you have one but one old dear apparently had hers stolen in a supermarket car park, thieving bastards should have their hands chopped off.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 29 May 2022, 16:40:06
Opportunist Happygolikeys or more organised?  :-\

Organised , took 5 mins to arrive , jack it ,cut the pipes and drive off in what i think is an Audi (still not hosted the footage but will)
the fact they used a hydraulic shear to cut the pipe and the speed shouts they do it all the time .

I was going to try and get what's left of the pipe round again ,but it's too thick and squashed oval  :(

so it looks like i'll have to buy shyte aftermarket type approved cats, with fitting kits from parts in motion is just shy of £500  :(

left £224.76 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334419301395?hash=item4ddcf19413:g:ilkAAOSw-iVihoCO)

right £222.55  (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234521580655?fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CCars+Type%3A2.6+V6%7CPlat_Gen%3AB%7CCars+Year%3A2003%7CModel%3AOmega%7CVariant%3APetrol+Saloon%7CEngine%3A2597cc+132KW+180HP+Y+26+SE%7CBodyStyle%3ARWD+%28B%29+V94&hash=item369a93546f:g:KMAAAOSwhgpihol7)

plus 2 fitting kits @£15 each

I could buy non type approved (£130 the pair) and graft in just the main cat to mid section ,(using my pre cats ) but then i'd also have to relocate lambdas and snot it all together  ::)
Timing really sucks
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 May 2022, 16:43:06
I would sleeve them for the time being and budget for new cats at the MoT :-\
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 29 May 2022, 16:54:07

I thought this shit was a thing of the past now :(
loads of cats getting stolen at the moment  :(

I just hope they are not stupid enough to steel the aftermarket replacements i fit , because they won't be worth sod all scrap ,despite costing me £500  :-X
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: YZ250 on 29 May 2022, 17:14:06
Sorry to hear about this Dave, it’s bad enough anyway but the thieving bastards don’t give a shit about peoples dependency on that vehicle.  :-\  They also don’t give a shit what they damage when jacking the vehicle up either.
I always want the jack to fall on them and crush the thieving bastards.

A chap I worked with had the cat cut off his Prius. The insurance paid out for a replacement to be fitted but just three weeks later they cut the new one off. As the insurance said that he was on his now he had to fit at his own cost so one of the lads at work suggested fitting it, and then welding toughened steel rods from the cat, and along the pipe a bit on both sides. Seems to have worked as the pipe has wounds on it from attempt number three but is still there.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 29 May 2022, 17:20:49
Sorry to hear about this Dave, it’s bad enough anyway but the thieving bastards don’t give a shit about peoples dependency on that vehicle.  :-\  They also don’t give a shit what they damage when jacking the vehicle up either.
I always want the jack to fall on them and crush the thieving bastards.

A chap I worked with had the cat cut off his Prius. The insurance paid out for a replacement to be fitted but just three weeks later they cut the new one off. As the insurance said that he was on his now he had to fit at his own cost so one of the lads at work suggested fitting it, and then welding toughened steel rods from the cat, and along the pipe a bit on both sides. Seems to have worked as the pipe has wounds on it from attempt number three but is still there.


Thanks  :)
sadly not much you can do to protect Omega cats when they have hydraulic shears  :(
I won't be telling the insurance or police ,waste of time ,and will just cost me even more money  :(
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: YZ250 on 29 May 2022, 17:35:47
Sorry to hear about this Dave, it’s bad enough anyway but the thieving bastards don’t give a shit about peoples dependency on that vehicle.  :-\  They also don’t give a shit what they damage when jacking the vehicle up either.
I always want the jack to fall on them and crush the thieving bastards.

A chap I worked with had the cat cut off his Prius. The insurance paid out for a replacement to be fitted but just three weeks later they cut the new one off. As the insurance said that he was on his now he had to fit at his own cost so one of the lads at work suggested fitting it, and then welding toughened steel rods from the cat, and along the pipe a bit on both sides. Seems to have worked as the pipe has wounds on it from attempt number three but is still there.


Thanks  :)
sadly not much you can do to protect Omega cats when they have hydraulic shears  :(
I won't be telling the insurance or police ,waste of time ,and will just cost me even more money  :( 

Yes, I agree.  :y Just so frustrating.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 May 2022, 18:10:17
I would report it, regardless of what you perceive that they can do, and also regardless of any insurance claim.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 May 2022, 18:11:44
As said, just bodge a bypass with some slightly bigger pipe for the time being, give you chance to see what may turn up.  May the thieves get poisoned from the dust, useless thoughtless  t wats.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 May 2022, 18:13:50
I would report it, regardless of what you perceive that they can do, and also regardless of any insurance claim.
                 Yes at least let the cops have a gander at the cctv they may even recognise them.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 29 May 2022, 18:37:07
I would report it, regardless of what you perceive that they can do, and also regardless of any insurance claim.
it's not just about a car claim ,which increases costs
Ir also increases the crime rate ,though the scum obviously travelled ,not locals
also lowers house prices, increases home insurance etc etc
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 May 2022, 18:42:22
If you report it and they get caught it can be included in their prosecution, especially with evidence.

If you don't report it it cannot.

Besides, your video footage might just be the missing detail in an ongoing investigation.

But as long as your house doesn't go down in value, 'dangle berries' to everyone else.  ???
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: TheBoy on 29 May 2022, 19:31:57
IME, CCTV footage taken at night is not admissible in court in most cases, so even if the old bill recognise the culprits, they won't proceed with it as the CPA won't run with it.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: LC0112G on 29 May 2022, 19:41:30
If it's any use, I've got 2 genuine Omega B downpipes complete with cats that I removed from my car 18 months ago. The flanges are rusted to bu99ery, but if you've got the tools you might be able to repair them, or somehow sleeve them into place.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 29 May 2022, 20:34:18
video footage  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX3ickl1LGc)
not great footage anyway , cameras needed cleaning BUT i have a complete new CCTV system ,sitting ready to fit when i get chance (better video compression , better quality cameras ) sods law i've been busy and not got round to fitting it in time for the cat theft  ::)

Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 29 May 2022, 20:39:46
If it's any use, I've got 2 genuine Omega B downpipes complete with cats that I removed from my car 18 months ago. The flanges are rusted to bu99ery, but if you've got the tools you might be able to repair them, or somehow sleeve them into place.
Thanks for the offer , i can sleeve cat to mid easy enough
problem is i need to sort the omega pronto (it's my daily )
where about's are you based ? PM a price etc please ?
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Andy B on 29 May 2022, 20:47:48
video footage  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX3ickl1LGc)
not great footage anyway , cameras needed cleaning BUT i have a complete new CCTV system ,sitting ready to fit when i get chance (better video compression , better quality cameras ) sods law i've been busy and not got round to fitting it in time for the cat theft  ::)

your Omega's alarm going off obviously made no difference at all  >:(
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 May 2022, 20:58:05
video footage  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX3ickl1LGc)
not great footage anyway , cameras needed cleaning BUT i have a complete new CCTV system ,sitting ready to fit when i get chance (better video compression , better quality cameras ) sods law i've been busy and not got round to fitting it in time for the cat theft  ::)

your Omega's alarm going off obviously made no difference at all  >:(
That presumes the power sounder/alarm horn are present and functional :-\

Presumably you didn't hear it going off.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 29 May 2022, 21:03:17
sounder was not connected ,BUT ...
they don't care even if the alarm goes off with siren
the bloke with a 2 foot scaffold pole is there to discourage intervention  :-X
alarm triggers at 1 min 50 seconds ,had the sounder made a noise ,that gives me about 2 mins to wake up,dress,and get to them ,by which time ,MY cats are in the boot of their stolen Audi ? :-\ 
not sure what car it was as i don't take any notice of new cars anymore 
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 29 May 2022, 21:07:05
they are quite happy to steal cats in broad daylight too  >:(
lots being stolen apparently .
 
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 29 May 2022, 21:07:29
Looks like a 2 series coupe to my eye. If that helps.

Definitely worth reporting to police, even just online, so they can do some digging. Intel is a big part of things now.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 29 May 2022, 21:12:08
Looks like a STOLEN 2 series coupe WITH FALSE PLATES to my eye. If that helps.

Definitely worth reporting to police, even just online, so they can do some digging. Intel is a big part of things now.
Fixed that for you  ;D

video quality is poor , cams should have been replaced ,or at least cleaned , but that's life  :(
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: STEMO on 29 May 2022, 21:20:32
No one heard the car alarm?
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 29 May 2022, 21:28:44
No one heard the car alarm?
stealth mode  ;) sounder disconnected
though ,had i heard it ,I'd never have go to them before they drove off
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: STEMO on 29 May 2022, 21:32:57
No one heard the car alarm?
stealth mode  ;) sounder disconnected
though ,had i heard it ,I'd never have go to them before they drove off
Sounder disconnected probably means the insurance wouldn't entertain a claim anyway.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 29 May 2022, 21:42:10
No one heard the car alarm?
stealth mode  ;) sounder disconnected
though ,had i heard it ,I'd never have go to them before they drove off
Sounder disconnected probably means the insurance wouldn't entertain a claim anyway.
Good  :) because I won't entertain making one  :D
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: johnnydog on 29 May 2022, 22:05:53
I would definately report it to the Police. There is some considerable footage of the offenders vehicle, and even if the reg plate (whether legit or not) could be partially enhanced, a part reg can be more important than you think. There is distinctive clothing on one offender which is also an important link, and could be invaluable should offenders be stopped checked / detained in relation to other matters. Small pieces of evidence, whilst not sufficient on their own, and may seem insignificant now, as part of on going investigation can be very relevant.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: johnnydog on 29 May 2022, 23:24:09
Plus, as this obviously isn't a one off incident, the combination of seemingly small pieces of evidence from other similar incidents, may help paint a bigger picture to assist identifying the culprits.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 30 May 2022, 04:22:32
Absolute parasites.

Whilst I agree CCTV at night is far less useful, it’s not automatically inadmissible - admissibility of evidence is another ball game. and as others have said, it could be the local plod are investigating a crime series of this nature, and your footage could be the missing piece. Even if faces / indexes are not identifiable, it can (and often is) be used to form circumstantial evidence, especially in a series of similar offences.

I agree - sleeve the pipes for now, and Bide your time for 2 known good, used GM cats, if possible :y



Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 May 2022, 04:34:32
And not to mention that if their car was indeed stolen, then someone will be looking for it, so could potentially incriminate thems as suspects in that matter too.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 May 2022, 04:38:56
As a longer term solution, you could fit a pair of flanges on each pipe just the right size for a pair of universal cats. Fit them for the MoT, and keep the plain inserts for the rest of the time. Obviously not legal, but a bolt in/out solution to prevent it happening again.

Did they leave the precats?  :-\
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 May 2022, 04:44:03
Also, probably a bit late now, but any evidence of hand prints on the car? The chap in red doesn't appear to be wearing gloves... Possible his mate is equally retarded...  :-\
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 30 May 2022, 11:48:40
Cant be too bright if they nicked the cats off a 2.6. They arent worth much anyway.
This would be a good opportunity to fit a pair of 2.5 / 3.0 cats.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: YZ250 on 30 May 2022, 12:56:33
Cant be too bright if they nicked the cats off a 2.6. They arent worth much anyway.
This would be a good opportunity to fit a pair of 2.5 / 3.0 cats.

They’d have got a shock if they’d nicked the cat off my son’s old truck, as it was completely hollow.  ;D
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 31 May 2022, 16:16:45
Cant be too bright if they nicked the cats off a 2.6. They arent worth much anyway.
This would be a good opportunity to fit a pair of 2.5 / 3.0 cats.
Maybe , but my emissions at MOT since i owned it have been ZERO CO and very low HCs
I doubt i'll get that with aftermarket cats .
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: annihilator on 31 May 2022, 17:26:20
Priced the scrap price of 3.2 cats last month and was quoted £350 for all 4,for some strange reason the pre cats have there own part number although not available separately.
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 May 2022, 18:09:37
Christ ! Istr they used to be almost worthless, when 2.5 / 3.0 cats were just over £100 a pair for scrap.
Wonder how much the early ones are worth now.  :-\
Title: Re: My Omega's Cats stolen
Post by: dave the builder on 01 June 2022, 18:57:43
The thieving scumbags will have to sell what they steal to a middle man (probably dodgy scrapyard) ,who will then sell on to WARR or similar ,so they won't get much , but do 20 a night ,plus other stuff ,i bet they earn more than me  >:(

I still have the pre-cats , I'll probably buy some main cats and have them welded in , got aftermarket shyte to fit in the mean time ,at least i'll have my onega back and not have to use an Astra  :D