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[Sir Tigger KC]

So start of the school holidays and again there's massive chaos and queues at Dover. 

Frankley I think you want your head read if you even contemplate crossing the Channel on a ferry just at the beginning of any school holiday especially with post Brexit EU passport checks. 

I wonder though, is it any coincidence that French immigration are causing massive queues at Dover the day after Britain announces that it will join the CPTPP? 

A petit le tiff? 

[ronnyd]

So start of the school holidays and again there's massive chaos and queues at Dover. 

Frankley I think you want your head read if you even contemplate crossing the Channel on a ferry just at the beginning of any school holiday especially with post Brexit EU passport checks. 

I wonder though, is it any coincidence that French immigration are causing massive queues at Dover the day after Britain announces that it will join the CPTPP? 

A petit le tiff? 

Obviously concerned about the massive 0.001% winfall the UK will get from that deal.

[Rangie]

Avoid going anywhere during school holidays, been there done that avoid sprogs at all costs works for us.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Brit hating lazy communists across the channel taking the piss again. We still call them our friends though for some unknown reason.

[STEMO]

Brit hating lazy communists across the channel taking the piss again. We still call them our friends though for some unknown reason.

So they only unleash 100,000 illegal migrants on us each year instead of half a million.

[Varche]

It is pretty poor. They have had months to be ready. 

Someone needs a good kicking as they knew it would be bad.

Why wasn’t it on the agenda and wrapped up when Rishi met Macron?

[LC0112G]

The main problem now is that people on coaches (mainly university students off for a weeks skiing) have to get off the coaches and have their passport stamped. Obviously that's 50+ people per coach who in the past would have just been waived through.

The reason they have to get off the coach is that as non EU residents you are only allowed to spend 90 out of any 180 days inside the Schengen zone. The computer system to monitor this isn't yet up and running (and hopefully never will be!), so the only way they know how long you've spent inside the Schengen zone is by counting up the in and out stamp dates. Now generally the French don't care about in and out stamps, but other countries - Germany, Austria, Swizerland - do, and having a mismatch/missing in and out stamps in your passport can cause grief, and potentially get you refused entry. 

This is the first fully non Covid winter since BREXIT. Can't see things getting better any time soon when traveling at peak times over the Channel.

[Nick W]

Brit hating lazy communists across the channel taking the piss again. We still call them our friends though for some unknown reason.

meanwhile, on the other side of the Chanel, this conversation happened:


The British are complaining about how long passport checks are taking.


But why, it's what they said they wanted?


Yes.
 
Yes.


opps'em, they're idiots.


Yes.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Is it unreasonable to expect your neighbouring country to operate it's border posts efficiently?     

[Nick W]

Is it unreasonable to expect your neighbouring country to operate it's border posts efficiently?     

If only there was an organisation we could join which made detailed inspection of already approved passports unnecessary. Then all you'd need would be to wave it under the scanner and be on your way. Just imagine, it could take about sixty seconds to deal with all four people in a car. No, not imagine, remember.


And this is the easy bit of border control; imagine what it's like bringing a forty ton truck loaded with several different consignments. Except you don't have to imagine that either, just go to any port and look at the queues.


Anybody who thought that we were going to 'take back control' of our borders without equal procedures when going the other way was an idiot.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Is it unreasonable to expect your neighbouring country to operate it's border posts efficiently?     

If only there was an organisation we could join which made detailed inspection of already approved passports unnecessary. Then all you'd need would be to wave it under the scanner and be on your way. Just imagine, it could take about sixty seconds to deal with all four people in a car. No, not imagine, remember.


And this is the easy bit of border control; imagine what it's like bringing a forty ton truck loaded with several different consignments. Except you don't have to imagine that either, just go to any port and look at the queues.


Anybody who thought that we were going to 'take back control' of our borders without equal procedures when going the other way was an idiot.

It would cost something in the order of £25bn a year to belong to that rotten corrupt organisation that you allude to. 

So I'll ask you again.

Is it unreasonable to expect your neighbouring country to operate it's border posts efficiently?     

[Kevin Wood]

Is it unreasonable to expect your neighbouring country to operate it's border posts efficiently?     

Depends if they expect us to spend our money holidaying there, propping up their early retirement age. Clearly they aren't that bothered.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Is it unreasonable to expect your neighbouring country to operate it's border posts efficiently?     

If only there was an organisation we could join which made detailed inspection of already approved passports unnecessary. Then all you'd need would be to wave it under the scanner and be on your way. Just imagine, it could take about sixty seconds to deal with all four people in a car. No, not imagine, remember.


And this is the easy bit of border control; imagine what it's like bringing a forty ton truck loaded with several different consignments. Except you don't have to imagine that either, just go to any port and look at the queues.


Anybody who thought that we were going to 'take back control' of our borders without equal procedures when going the other way was an idiot.

It would cost something in the order of £25bn a year to belong to that rotten corrupt organisation that you allude to. 

So I'll ask you again.

Is it unreasonable to expect your neighbouring country to operate it's border posts efficiently?     

Plus the small fact that it isnt an organisation at all, but a political union which is three quarters of the way to its stated destination of a federal union, just like the USA.

[LC0112G]

If you think it's bad now, just wait a few years for when/if they get their computerised system up and running. Then you'll have to pay for a Visa, which is expected to cost about £30-£50 and will last 3 years. You'll also need have biometric information scanned - which means finger prints and photographs taken on first entry/use of the Visa. Just imagine the queues the first Easter/Christmas after that comes in.

One of the reasons for the system is that it's perfectly legal for a UK national to hold 2 UK passports, so counting up the in and out dates via the stamps doesn't work.

It'll be very similar to the US immigration system - if they can ever get it to work. It was supposed to go live last year, but to no-ones surprise hasn't and keeps being pushed back 6 months. Of course EU nationals can just be waived straight through

[Raeturbo]

Fk em, stay in your own country and make it great again, fu(king stinking shithole anyway.