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[TheBoy]

C5, certainly the 2 hire ones I've had (a 1.8 I think, and a v6 of some description - both returned similar economy of 20mpg) at just too soft in the corners for me.  And the v6 variant was a bit too lary for the chassis - you can get it well rolled over, then it just understeers like a bastid, finishing off with lift off oversteer.

[tunnie]

Not missed RWD myself, how can you realistically use it in a packed commute? Too much traffic around really, so far i've prefered the CCs handling to the Elite. Far less roll into the corners, when just doing normal speeds around a motorway slip for example.

RWD choice is limited these days, many more options if you accept FWD.

For me, the requirement for RWD is predominantly for comfort. To have any kind of useable power in a FWD car by necessity means removing the suspension.

Unfortunately, due to my over enthusiastic attitude at work in my younger days, and then due to a typical VW driver (in a poxy Passat), I have 2 separate injuries to my back that makes it problematic to drive long distances in overly stiff cars.

The VW is firmer, but I've been very surprised with the seats. Very supportive and comfy for me. Big test is week after next, 600 mile return trip up Norf.

It surely has to be a Jag XF for you, plenty of XF-R bits available to make it more you. 

[TheBoy]

The VW is firmer, but I've been very surprised with the seats. Very supportive and comfy for me.

Not that I'd get a VW anyway, but the Passats I've driven have caused discomfort, far too much discomfort to even entertain the idea.

[citroenguy]

The newr ones (2008-on) handle better due to a better chassis with double wishbone up front and multilink rear. And all of them with hydractive has the sport mode for the suspension. Whitch that V6 you owned also had. Engaging the sport mode stiffens it up a bit.

[tunnie]

The VW is firmer, but I've been very surprised with the seats. Very supportive and comfy for me.

Not that I'd get a VW anyway, but the Passats I've driven have caused discomfort, far too much discomfort to even entertain the idea.

Try one with GT spec Leather 

[TheBoy]

The VW is firmer, but I've been very surprised with the seats. Very supportive and comfy for me.

Not that I'd get a VW anyway, but the Passats I've driven have caused discomfort, far too much discomfort to even entertain the idea.

Try one with GT spec Leather 

I think even if I put my armchair in, it wouldn't overcome the harshness of the chassis.

I'd always prefer decent cloth, like vulgarlure

[ronnyd]

I find Frog cars a bit quirky to be honest and have also vowed never to have a Renault after a traumatic car hire experience 

[TheBoy]

I find Frog cars a bit quirky to be honest and have also vowed never to have a Renault after a traumatic car hire experience 

I grew up with big Citroens, as Dad liked them, so their weirdness was all normal to me.  Also taught me a lot about electrics, as being French, the little electric pixies were always on strike

[Lazydocker]

I suspect I will have little say in my next car... but it might be new

[tunnie]

Plenty out there, just on your ban list:

Merc E350 CDI/CLS. (Driven these, CLS was very smooth)
Merc S320 CDI
BMW 535d
BMW 730d
Audi A8 4.0 TD
Porker Turbo (911's)
Jag XF's 3.0d
Jag XJ 2.7d


But all on your banned lised 

[Entwood]

Plenty out there, just on your ban list:

Merc E350 CDI/CLS. (Driven these, CLS was very smooth)
Merc S320 CDI
BMW 535d
BMW 730d
Audi A8 4.0 TD
Porker Turbo (911's)
Jag XF's 3.0d
Jag XJ 2.7d


But all on your banned lised 

Should be on everyone's banned list ... only things should burn fuel oil are boats and trucks ....dirty, smelly, polluting POS ....

[tunnie]

You can't paint diesel with a brush like that, try driving a recent shape Jag XJ V6 Diesel.

Very happy with my Derv 

Over 600 on current tank of juice, range says over 100 left,  suits my driving style of low down torque. Mid range it's not bad, no slouch. Motorway at 70 in 6th just 1,200 rpm. So great cruiser

Father Ts XF diesel is very nice too.

What is a POS, is the 3.2 engine. 

It's not that fast, it's terrible on fuel, DBW V6 idle is rubbish. 3.0 V6 was always far better engine, least that was economical given its power. 3.2 is so much worse, but for what? No gains.

[Entwood]

You can't paint diesel with a brush like that, try driving a recent shape Jag XJ V6 Diesel.

Very happy with my Derv 

Over 600 on current tank of juice, range says over 100 left,  suits my driving style of low down torque. Mid range it's not bad, no slouch. Motorway at 70 in 6th just 1,200 rpm. So great cruiser

Father Ts XF diesel is very nice too.

What is a POS, is the 3.2 engine. 

It's not that fast, it's terrible on fuel, DBW V6 idle is rubbish. 3.0 V6 was always far better engine, least that was economical given its power. 3.2 is so much worse, but for what? No gains.

Oh I can ..

Dirty - requires a bloody great DPF to trap the contamination .. which then burns itself clean so releasing all the contamination on to the poor unsuspecting public, and only if you drive it in a very certain way, otherwise it doesn't work and the system fails .. at great expense

Smelly - No explanation needed .. fuel oil stinks

Polluting - not withstanding the DPF matter .. the NOx levels are so high that the modern engine has to have piss added to it to make it legal ....and if you run out of piss it won't start !!

and even then VW had to lie, lie, and lie again to pass the emissions tests .. so millions of vehicles just like yours are pumping out pollution ...had your recall yet ?? 

and you say fuel oil is good ?

[Mr.OmegaMan]

It's a bit unfair to compare the Omega with anything other than what was available at the same time as the Omega....

[Doctor Gollum]

Following an earlier conversation...

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