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[Owen]

Monday I had the car jacked up to change the front and back wheels round for even tyre wear. Since then there is a road noise (very similar to off road tyres on tarmac) and a clanking from the passanger side when going over small bumps as if somthing wasnt tightened up! Just had it up in tha air again and on the passenger wheel has a lot of play in it when you move it from left to right! (Engine off and on the ground) Also you can turn the spring n inch or two each way! The driver side spring has no play in it at all!
Took it down to my local garage with no intention of  letting them do any work on it, just wanted to find out the problem as its scrubbed the tyre down in 24 hours >:

They told me all the knuckles and the bottom end of the suspension were fine on both sides
Also there telling me it needs 2 springs £210 fitted, yea, right! Even though they couldnt find a break in the passanger spring, and went on to tell me the the drivers side spring was fine
Or the top mount on the passanger side! Now I have no idea what this is?
They also said if I dont have the right tools Im gonna have to pay someone to do the job!
And finaly they have told me not to use the car till its fixed, is this nessesary?


So any opinions??? And what is the 'Top Mount'??

[Marks DTM Calib]

Is that a lot of play when gripping the wheel in a 3-9 position?

Any in the 6-12 position?

[Owen]

Is that a lot of play when gripping the wheel in a 3-9 position?

Any in the 6-12 position?

Nothing on 6-12
Just on the 9-3

[Craig_R]

If it is your Top Mounts I have just replaced mine but put the old rubbers back in as only one of the bearnings had gone so i have some new spare top mount rubbers but no bearnings.

Ill upload some photos of top mounts when i get home

[Owen]

Bearings? Top mount sounded to me like somthing I could tighten up with a big spanner!
If they couldnt find a break in the spring then that all it can be??

Is it ok to drive? Have to get my little lad to Oxford tomorow for his post-op stuff!

[Craig_R]

Ill let someone else answer if it fine to drive as i dont know how bad it is and would not like to say if it is or it is not

Photo of top mount Bearnings from the bottom with no bearning cover on

[Marks DTM Calib]

Is the play felt when trying to rotate the wheel about the ball join axis or is it fore and aft?

If its felt when trying to rotate about the axis then check the track rod ends etc, with somebody wiggling the wheel, you should be able to see/feel the play.

As for driving, as long as you take it steady I dont see it as a major problem.

[Owen]

Thanks for the pic

Dunno if it has any bearing, it was like this from the second I took it of the jack for after the wheel change!

Is the pic the underside of this??

[Craig_R]

No Sorry if only it was that easy

One of the members Pete kindly upload a photo of the rubber mount it sits on top of the shock spring as shown in the photo link below the photo i showed You is the underside of the black rubber thing in petes photo on top of the spring

http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/pete1666@btinternet.com/detail_hires?.dir=dfd9re2&.dnm=e79fre2.jpg

hope this helps

[Owen]

I realy have no idea how to do this, dunno what bits I need. Can it be done with parts from the breakers.

I realy need an idiot guide as I dunno where to start, any pointers would be appreciated fellas as I need to get this done sharpish!

[Marks DTM Calib]

Owen, can you please answer my last set of questions.

[Ronald_McBurger]

OR YOU GET A FORUM SLAP!

[Owen]

Is the play felt when trying to rotate the wheel about the ball join axis or is it fore and aft?

If its felt when trying to rotate about the axis then check the track rod ends etc, with somebody wiggling the wheel, you should be able to see/feel the play.

As for driving, as long as you take it steady I dont see it as a major problem.

Right, sorry Mark, well first thing I thought was track rod end, but when they checked it at the garage they said it was all solid!

Sorry Im a donkey, but Im not sure what you mean when you say 'Is the play felt when trying to rotate the wheel about the ball join axis or is it fore and aft?'

[Craig_R]

Owen Before we go down this Route we need to find out that its not your trackrods

I have new rubber mounts for this Dont get them from a scrapper and dont get them from VX they want 140 +vat for the pair

[Marks DTM Calib]

Ok, is the play felt when you grab the wheel at the 3 and 9 Oclock positions and try to rotate it in the direction the steering moves the assembly?

Is it felt on both the drivers and passenger side wheels?