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Title: Brakes crap again
Post by: grifter on 26 September 2019, 08:07:25
Hi

So a couple of months ago I changed the fluid, replaced back discs pads, gave the rear pistons a freeing off, not that they were seized per say, mainly gave them a bit of movement to keep them free moving - the old inny outy!. I also found the slider on F/N/S caliper a bit stuck so freed that off and checked other side, which was ok. After this the brakes had a nice sharp bite to them, for a couple of weeks, then one day it went back to how they were before i.e pedal goes quite far down before bite and more of a shove to stop.

I have noticed on very rare occasion they are back to being good i.e. firm pedal. Could it be air still in the system. I used a ezi-bleed to change fluid.

Cheers
Andrew
Title: Re: Brakes crap again
Post by: Jan Suhr on 26 September 2019, 09:21:06
I would start with bleeding them again.
Title: Re: Brakes crap again
Post by: terry paget on 26 September 2019, 09:49:03
I observe that the older the car, the more likely is this phenomenon. I suspect master cylinder wear.
Title: Re: Brakes crap again
Post by: Nick W on 26 September 2019, 12:57:55
I observe that the older the car, the more likely is this phenomenon. I suspect master cylinder wear.


exactly.
Title: Re: Brakes crap again
Post by: johnnydog on 26 September 2019, 13:33:40
When you freed off the sliding calipers, were the boots intact and did you lubricate the sliders - if so what did you use? A firmer than normal pedal could be related to the sliding caliper sticking again. Worth checking first before bleeding or dismantling the master cylinder.
Title: Re: Brakes crap again
Post by: grifter on 26 September 2019, 17:21:44
When you freed off the sliding calipers, were the boots intact and did you lubricate the sliders - if so what did you use? A firmer than normal pedal could be related to the sliding caliper sticking again. Worth checking first before bleeding or dismantling the master cylinder.

Quite sure the boot was intact, I think it had just fallen off it's lip somehow, just the top one. I used some standard grease to lube them up. I'll give it a double check tomorrow.

Title: Re: Brakes crap again
Post by: johnnydog on 27 September 2019, 10:13:23
Don't use copper slip on them  it is an antiseize rather than a lubricant.
Ideally, you need a heat resistant lubricant for the sliders due to the heat that can be generated ftom the brakes. I personally apply a very light smear of a CV joint grease on the slider pins before reassembly - works perfectly for me when overhauling this type of caliper.
Title: Re: Brakes crap again
Post by: grifter on 28 September 2019, 15:36:51
Don't use copper slip on them  it is an antiseize rather than a lubricant.
Ideally, you need a heat resistant lubricant for the sliders due to the heat that can be generated ftom the brakes. I personally apply a very light smear of a CV joint grease on the slider pins before reassembly - works perfectly for me when overhauling this type of caliper.

Wouldn't ever use copperslip on moving part. If I've not got CV grease to hand just use normal grease.
Title: Re: Brakes crap again
Post by: biggriffin on 28 September 2019, 21:11:36
I observe that the older the car, the more likely is this phenomenon. I suspect master cylinder wear.


exactly.

2nd the above....

Also in the older days we use to have a stuff called Hmp grease.