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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #675 on: 20 December 2015, 19:42:09 »

And can we also have a discussion on how many RPMs to chuck on when holding the brake in the auto?

I'm presuming the stall speed of 2500rpm? But can I get away with any more and will it actually help?

Presumably, the more the merrier provided it doesn't cause you to break traction.  So, with a 2.5, about 6,000RPM should be just fine.  ;)
Don't. He may break his car and then we'd never know the results of his experiment. Sigh........😞
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #676 on: 20 December 2015, 19:46:45 »

And can we also have a discussion on how many RPMs to chuck on when holding the brake in the auto?

I'm presuming the stall speed of 2500rpm? But can I get away with any more and will it actually help?

Presumably, the more the merrier provided it doesn't cause you to break traction.  So, with a 2.5, about 6,000RPM should be just fine.  ;)

That's kinda why I asked. I remember tb mentioning that to floor it would be to stall it. Though I remember getting rear wheels stuck in some mud on a farm once and I floored it and it wouldn't rev past 2.5k. I think that was the stall speed stopping me from going any further  :-\

So I'm thinking 2.5k rpm???
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #677 on: 20 December 2015, 20:22:10 »

And can we also have a discussion on how many RPMs to chuck on when holding the brake in the auto?

I'm presuming the stall speed of 2500rpm? But can I get away with any more and will it actually help?

Presumably, the more the merrier provided it doesn't cause you to break traction.  So, with a 2.5, about 6,000RPM should be just fine.  ;)


You actually want some wheelspin; so more revs than the stallspeed is necessary. Exactly how much will require experimentation. If you don't launch this way it will just lurch away from the lights and bog-down. You see this all the time at the track.


This is assuming that the car has enough power to overcome the tyres on a prepared surface. That might be asking a bit much from an automatic 2.5.
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #678 on: 20 December 2015, 22:50:27 »

And can we also have a discussion on how many RPMs to chuck on when holding the brake in the auto?

I'm presuming the stall speed of 2500rpm? But can I get away with any more and will it actually help?

Presumably, the more the merrier provided it doesn't cause you to break traction.  So, with a 2.5, about 6,000RPM should be just fine.  ;)


You actually want some wheelspin; so more revs than the stallspeed is necessary. Exactly how much will require experimentation. If you don't launch this way it will just lurch away from the lights and bog-down. You see this all the time at the track.


This is assuming that the car has enough power to overcome the tyres on a prepared surface. That might be asking a bit much from an automatic 2.5.

Hows he going to do that then?,thats the highest revs it can pull in gear with brakes on without moving ???
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #679 on: 21 December 2015, 18:06:13 »

got to say, that was my understanding. I wont be holding on to the brake for too long anyway....as quick as possible actually so as to protect the tranny as much as poss.  :y

if I manage to get a dry day in jan, I want a cold day with no rain, right?
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« Reply #680 on: 22 December 2015, 16:49:46 »

May struggle to find Michelin ps3's for the testing according to our tyre supplier. Anyone know a place that sells them.

Michelin, of their current stock, recommend the 'primacy' for my car. Are these similar tyres to the ps3's?
Double check, but I thought Primacy were their ecowank type tyre, PSx versions were high performance tyres.  If I'm right, they are completely different beasts - eco means no grip.
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #681 on: 22 December 2015, 17:10:12 »

May struggle to find Michelin ps3's for the testing according to our tyre supplier. Anyone know a place that sells them.

Michelin, of their current stock, recommend the 'primacy' for my car. Are these similar tyres to the ps3's?
Double check, but I thought Primacy were their ecowank type tyre, PSx versions were high performance tyres.  If I'm right, they are completely different beasts - eco means no grip.

Ecowank.....It's worth checking the sidewall to see if your tyre is identified in this way. :)
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #682 on: 24 December 2015, 14:09:59 »

Thanks TB/Opti,

definitely cant get hold of PS3s in that size  :'(

what do we think is the nearest substitute for extra sportiness  :y :y :y :y
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #683 on: 24 December 2015, 16:15:26 »

Thanks TB/Opti,

definitely cant get hold of PS3s in that size  :'(

what do we think is the nearest substitute for extra sportiness  :y :y :y :y
The PS3's I had on TBE I wouldn't call "sporty". More "slippery".  But then, they were well over half worn at 5mm when I got them.

Certainly Mr Lazydocker wasn't happy with them from the passenger seat...
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« Reply #684 on: 24 December 2015, 17:28:51 »

Thanks TB/Opti,

definitely cant get hold of PS3s in that size  :'(

what do we think is the nearest substitute for extra sportiness  :y :y :y :y
The PS3's I had on TBE I wouldn't call "sporty". More "slippery".  But then, they were well over half worn at 5mm when I got them.

Certainly Mr Lazydocker wasn't happy with them from the passenger seat...
Has he warmed to the ones on his :-\
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #685 on: 24 December 2015, 18:34:50 »

Well the ballast weight will be in the rear. Hopefully that will compensate for a slippery tyre. Looking forward to the results  :y
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #686 on: 24 December 2015, 18:39:49 »

Ps looks like the primacy hp is the only Michelin available in my size. May stick with my new set
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #687 on: 25 December 2015, 09:40:43 »

Thanks TB/Opti,

definitely cant get hold of PS3s in that size  :'(

what do we think is the nearest substitute for extra sportiness  :y :y :y :y
The PS3's I had on TBE I wouldn't call "sporty". More "slippery".  But then, they were well over half worn at 5mm when I got them.

Certainly Mr Lazydocker wasn't happy with them from the passenger seat...
Has he warmed to the ones on his :-\
Mr Gixer seems to be getting on with his Michelins I believe, though the MPSS is not available in "standard" Omega sizes.
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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #688 on: 25 December 2015, 17:08:07 »

Many moons ago I seem to recall one one of the motoring magazines attempting to improve the 0-60 MPH of a 2 litre Cortina in a novel way.

The back wheels were lifted clear of the ground and spun furiously before  brutally making contact with the road surface again.

The result was a spectacular 'smoky' getaway that reduced the 0-60 MPH by a full second or more.

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Re: Ok, I can officially put this 0-60 'dangle berries' to rest
« Reply #689 on: 28 December 2015, 16:37:31 »

So.

I got everything sorted. Accelerometer en route. Thanks Nick.

As said before I'm going for a cold but dry day in Jan.

One thing that's crossed my mind. How much would a head or tail wind affect the time. Obviously I want the best time possible but I don't want it to be cos of this. So how would it affect it?
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