Topic: Ive discovered why my 2.2 has been missing (Read 5422 times)

Taxi_Driver · « **on:** 28 December 2006, 12:48:16 »

In another thread i mentioned my 2.2 has been missing when cold on lpg.....and said i was going to change the plugs........well this morning i started to change em.....took em out....and now i dont know what to do.......coz this will be the reason for the missing.....

The very covered in oil plug

was the second one back from the front.

Any suggestions ?? HELP

Markjay · « **Reply #1 on:** 28 December 2006, 12:51:37 »

Was there oil on the tip of the plug, or did it get contaminated when you pulled it out?

If only on the outside, then look for the leak and fix it.... if the tip was oily, this is not good news, compression test would be the next stage.

Also, was the oily plug loose compared to the others?

Incidentally, the other three seem to be running a bit lean - is this because of the LPG?

Phil · « **Reply #2 on:** 28 December 2006, 12:52:22 »

First suggestion is you should NEVER start and run a car from cold on LPG.

It dries out the heads and causes alot of damage, which it would appear is going your way.

This is why a decent LPG conversion will always start on petrol and 'flip over' once warm

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #3 on:** 28 December 2006, 12:58:50 »

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Was there oil on the tip of the plug, or did it get contaminated when you pulled it out?

If only on the outside, then look for the leak and fix it.... if the tip was oily, this is not good news, compression test would be the next stage.

Incidentally, the other three seem to be running a bit lean - is this because of the LPG?

Also, was the oily plug loose compared to the others?

The tip was oily......ive check the coil pack and theres no oil on the outside of the rubber sleeve only on the very end of it......so suggests to me oil has come from inside to me :-/

TheBoy · « **Reply #4 on:** 28 December 2006, 13:00:53 »

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Was there oil on the tip of the plug, or did it get contaminated when you pulled it out?

If only on the outside, then look for the leak and fix it.... if the tip was oily, this is not good news, compression test would be the next stage.

Incidentally, the other three seem to be running a bit lean - is this because of the LPG?

Also, was the oily plug loose compared to the others?

The tip was oily......ive check the coil pack and theres no oil on the outside of the rubber sleeve only on the very end of it......so suggests to me oil has come from inside to me :-/

Not necessarily.... ....I would still be looking for an oil leak around the head...

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #5 on:** 28 December 2006, 13:01:14 »

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First suggestion is you should NEVER start and run a car from cold on LPG.

It dries out the heads and causes alot of damage, which it would appear is going your way.

This is why a decent LPG conversion will always start on petrol and 'flip over' once warm

It doesnt start on lpg.....it starts on petrol.....and auto switches to lpg when water temp is about 40C......it when this temp it misses on lpg ....when it gets to 70+ its ok

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #6 on:** 28 December 2006, 13:03:40 »

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Also, was the oily plug loose compared to the others?

Incidentally, the other three seem to be running a bit lean - is this because of the LPG?

None of them were 'tight' tight but none were loose either

And yes probably is because of lpg the other plugs look like that

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #7 on:** 28 December 2006, 13:36:42 »

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Incidentally, the other three seem to be running a bit lean - is this because of the LPG?

YEs he has same issue as me - lean running on gas

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #8 on:** 28 December 2006, 14:06:41 »

Here are some pics looking down the plug wells....

Plug well nearest the front ...and looks pretty oil free to me

This the one with the oily plug in it

And the rest are diffent pics of the rest of the plugs wells

So im assuming a gasket is on its way out? :-/

Could this be caused by blocked breathers? :-/

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #9 on:** 28 December 2006, 14:20:49 »

Rocker cover gasket, don't forget the o rings, also clean the breathers

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #10 on:** 28 December 2006, 15:09:37 »

Is this what i should be doing then?

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152565472

If so ive read through it, and think i can follow it.

Just need the part no's for the gasket and o rings and sealant

And need to get myself a torque wrench

Marks DTM Calib · « **Reply #11 on:** 28 December 2006, 15:29:55 »

Funny thread this.....seen this one before......

Shall I tell you the answer......or does anybody want to continue guessing incorrectly....

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #12 on:** 28 December 2006, 15:38:59 »

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Funny thread this.....seen this one before......

Shall I tell you the answer......or does anybody want to continue guessing incorrectly....

Any easy answer please Mark

Marks DTM Calib · « **Reply #13 on:** 28 December 2006, 15:45:51 »

I suspect its a nasty case of KHMS......Kack Handed Mechanic Syndrome

The small quantity of oil in a plug near to the oil filler cap is a classic miss the cap slightly when filling it symptom....

The shots suggest its not cam cover gasket and the breathers are clear (seem to recall them being cleared out in the past) and hence the small amount around number two which indicates possibly a right handed person (would have the can over the cam cover when pouring).

As for the oil coming from the bore.....if the plugs not a gas tight seal...you would know!

So, my recommendation, clean the plug bore and coil pack up well and check it again on a few thousand miles....

TheBoy · « **Reply #14 on:** 28 December 2006, 15:53:55 »

LOL, I guess its one of those only reconised when its been seem before. So, Mark, do you suffer from KHMS?

Marks DTM Calib · « **Reply #15 on:** 28 December 2006, 15:59:19 »

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LOL, I guess its one of those only reconised when its been seem before. So, Mark, do you suffer from KHMS?

I only do V6's.....and wrap a cloth around the oil filler to catch any spillage....

TheBoy · « **Reply #16 on:** 28 December 2006, 16:02:18 »

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LOL, I guess its one of those only reconised when its been seem before. So, Mark, do you suffer from KHMS?

I only do V6's.....and wrap a cloth around the oil filler to catch any spillage....

Most of time, I use a funnel coz I'm a chicken

Failing that, shed loads of kitchen roll, much to Mrs TheBoy's frustration...

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #17 on:** 28 December 2006, 16:23:38 »

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I suspect its a nasty case of KHMS......Kack Handed Mechanic Syndrome

The small quantity of oil in a plug near to the oil filler cap is a classic miss the cap slightly when filling it symptom....

The shots suggest its not cam cover gasket and the breathers are clear (seem to recall them being cleared out in the past) and hence the small amount around number two which indicates possibly a right handed person (would have the can over the cam cover when pouring).

As for the oil coming from the bore.....if the plugs not a gas tight seal...you would know!

So, my recommendation, clean the plug bore and coil pack up well and check it again on a few thousand miles....

Dont understand how the oil could have got there......if its spillage from filling it with oil.......as i dont change the oil myself....garage does....but they dont do the plugs.....i do.....so if they did spill oil when they changed the oil last......it would have spilt on the ecotech plastic strip and yes could have seeped down but surely would have been trapped in the gulleys as theres a lip around the plugs wells.....plus theres a coil pack sitting on top of the plugs as well....sealing the plugs off.

Its only the plug well nearest the front that was dry of oil, the other 3 had oil in them

Oh and never done the breathers

Earlier when i was putting it all back together before it got dark....i noticed something else....the gearbox casing on rhs of engine is covered in oil.....not dripping off but definately oil staining.....somewhere else it leaking or connected? :-/

Auto Addict · « **Reply #18 on:** 28 December 2006, 17:53:54 »

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Oh and never done the breathers

Auto Addict · « **Reply #19 on:** 28 December 2006, 18:09:56 »

Mark could be right, but I would have expected both the second and third plugs to have oil on them.

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #20 on:** 28 December 2006, 18:59:18 »

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Oh and never done the breathers

I know AA

Was meaning to do them then the weather got a bit cold

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #21 on:** 29 December 2006, 15:35:17 »

Right.....i cleaned the plug wells best i could and popped in new plugs yesterday.

Today I have done 220 miles so had another peer down the plug wells.....must admit none of them any large amount in them......in fact very similar to the pics of them i took yesterday.....altho there is trace of oil on top of the plug wells and in the plug well that was the worse on yesterday you can see it starting to fall down the plug well.

Heres a couple more pics of guess where this oil has come from??

Should point out as its not very clear in the above pic......you see the horizontal ridge under the vertical green line......thats wet oil....not staining.....if you look closely you can just about see it start to run down

As you can see thats the heat shield on the exhaust manifold to the left so top pic is basically above lower pic. If i put my hand round the back of the cam cover i end up with oily fingers

Oh and yes i had noticed someone has snapped a stud of the heat shield......

STMO123 · « **Reply #22 on:** 29 December 2006, 15:39:30 »

rather breathers. rather pain in the ars*

Breathers AND cam cover TD?

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #23 on:** 29 December 2006, 16:03:27 »

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rather breathers. rather pain in the ars*

Breathers AND cam cover TD?

Thats what i reckon m8......i know Mark reckons its spilt oil.....but it seems to be everywhere i look.

Anyway carnt do any harm.....well spose i could break it totally

So im off down to vx dealer for...

Breather sump gasket
Cam cover gasket
4 'O' rings
And black gasket sealant

Halfrauds for a torque wrench

If I follow the how to's I reckon I should be able to give it a good go

Marks DTM Calib · « **Reply #24 on:** 29 December 2006, 16:07:25 »

Look like breathers and cam cover gasket then.....its always best to rule out the obvious first.....

Markjay · « **Reply #25 on:** 29 December 2006, 16:59:35 »

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...Halfrauds for a torque wrench...

It's 8NM so you will need to look for one that starts low....

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #26 on:** 29 December 2006, 17:09:40 »

Just back from vx dealer..

cam gasket not in stock....be in tuesday

gasket for sump breather not in stock either....be in tuesday

But they did have black gasket sealent

And nobody noticed my deliberate mistake on how many O rings i needed......dunno where i got 4 from!

When i asked for 4 'O' rings......fair play to parts guy.....he said theres 10 bolts sir you need 10 O rings! ....which he had in stock to

Im now the owner of a torque wrench

Halfords Professional 8-60Nm £50, but tenner off with trade card

Actually must be a good one as it looks just like the one AA has

So no excuse for me guessing how much to tighten stuff now

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #27 on:** 29 December 2006, 17:10:21 »

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...Halfrauds for a torque wrench...

It's 8NM so you will need to look for one that starts low....

8-60Nm MJ

Auto Addict · « **Reply #28 on:** 29 December 2006, 17:12:26 »

Best of luck TD

They always seem to have to order the sump breather gasket, so I order them in 2's.

Markjay · « **Reply #29 on:** 29 December 2006, 17:13:00 »

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Best of luck TD

...indeed.

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #30 on:** 29 December 2006, 17:29:56 »

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Best of luck TD

...indeed.

Cheers guys....but wont be able to have a go until tue/wed next depending on weather :-/

Plus thanks to AA for doing the breather guide and Mark for doing the cam gasket change.....without it would have been a garage job......but i feel confident with guides on doing the jobs

Vx dealer must love me at the mo......i spent just over £100 on parts/stuff yesterday......now today.....dunno how much....as parts guy said pay on tuesday when you come back.

Auto Addict · « **Reply #31 on:** 29 December 2006, 17:35:52 »

If you need a hand I could be free on Wednesday, weather permitting.

TheBoy · « **Reply #32 on:** 29 December 2006, 17:36:56 »

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Best of luck TD

...indeed.

Cheers guys....but wont be able to have a go until tue/wed next depending on weather :-/

Plus thanks to AA for doing the breather guide and Mark for doing the cam gasket change.....without it would have been a garage job......but i feel confident with guides on doing the jobs

Vx dealer must love me at the mo......i spent just over £100 on parts/stuff yesterday......now today.....dunno how much....as parts guy said pay on tuesday when you come back.

Fancy doing some piccies so we can add to how2?

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #33 on:** 29 December 2006, 17:48:43 »

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Best of luck TD

...indeed.

Cheers guys....but wont be able to have a go until tue/wed next depending on weather :-/

Plus thanks to AA for doing the breather guide and Mark for doing the cam gasket change.....without it would have been a garage job......but i feel confident with guides on doing the jobs

Vx dealer must love me at the mo......i spent just over £100 on parts/stuff yesterday......now today.....dunno how much....as parts guy said pay on tuesday when you come back.
Fancy doing some piccies so we can add to how2?

Okay....well AA's breather guide doesnt need piccies already got them

......but i can take some for Marks cam gasket change

TheBoy · « **Reply #34 on:** 29 December 2006, 17:50:11 »

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i can take some for Marks cam gasket change

Brilliant

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #35 on:** 29 December 2006, 17:56:49 »

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If you need a hand I could be free on Wednesday, weather permitting.

Thats a kind offer AA....

But its quite a distance....Watch for a PM asking for your phone number if i get stuck doing the breathers

Auto Addict · « **Reply #36 on:** 29 December 2006, 17:58:31 »

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If you need a hand I could be free on Wednesday, weather permitting.

Thats a kind offer AA.... But its quite a distance....Watch for a PM asking for your phone number if i get stuck doing the breathers

Not a problem, and I could try out my new SatNav

TheBoy · « **Reply #37 on:** 29 December 2006, 18:01:00 »

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If you need a hand I could be free on Wednesday, weather permitting.

Thats a kind offer AA.... But its quite a distance....Watch for a PM asking for your phone number if i get stuck doing the breathers

Not a problem, and I could try out my new SatNav

The famous magic roundabout in Swindon should give it a good workout

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #38 on:** 29 December 2006, 18:11:34 »

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If you need a hand I could be free on Wednesday, weather permitting.

Thats a kind offer AA.... But its quite a distance....Watch for a PM asking for your phone number if i get stuck doing the breathers

Not a problem, and I could try out my new SatNav
The famous magic roundabout in Swindon should give it a good workout

My old Tomtom go was useless at it.....my tomtom510 knows it 5 roundabouts in one and get its right

Actually sometimes if visitors ask about it when they are in the back....and im going over it anyway....i'll amaze them by going round it clockwise and then go round it anticlockwise

Markjay · « **Reply #39 on:** 29 December 2006, 18:45:39 »

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If you need a hand I could be free on Wednesday, weather permitting.

Thats a kind offer AA.... But its quite a distance....Watch for a PM asking for your phone number if i get stuck doing the breathers

Not a problem, and I could try out my new SatNav
The famous magic roundabout in Swindon should give it a good workout

My old Tomtom go was useless at it.....my tomtom510 knows it 5 roundabouts in one and get its right
Actually sometimes if visitors ask about it when they are in the back....and im going over it anyway....i'll amaze them by going round it clockwise and then go round it anticlockwise

TD – I bet you didn’t think I’ll come-up with a picture, did you?

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #40 on:** 29 December 2006, 18:46:37 »

I had the same but all 4 off my old 2.0

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #41 on:** 29 December 2006, 19:12:31 »

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If you need a hand I could be free on Wednesday, weather permitting.

Thats a kind offer AA.... But its quite a distance....Watch for a PM asking for your phone number if i get stuck doing the breathers

Not a problem, and I could try out my new SatNav
The famous magic roundabout in Swindon should give it a good workout

My old Tomtom go was useless at it.....my tomtom510 knows it 5 roundabouts in one and get its right
Actually sometimes if visitors ask about it when they are in the back....and im going over it anyway....i'll amaze them by going round it clockwise and then go round it anticlockwise

TD – I bet you didn’t think I’ll come-up with a picture, did you?

LOL Very good MJ

......old pics tho.....theres a red light camera now for the pedestrian lights in the top pic......and the only time you ever see it that quiet now is in the middle of the night

Auto Addict · « **Reply #42 on:** 29 December 2006, 20:08:45 »

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If you need a hand I could be free on Wednesday, weather permitting.

Thats a kind offer AA.... But its quite a distance....Watch for a PM asking for your phone number if i get stuck doing the breathers

Not a problem, and I could try out my new SatNav
The famous magic roundabout in Swindon should give it a good workout

My old Tomtom go was useless at it.....my tomtom510 knows it 5 roundabouts in one and get its right
Actually sometimes if visitors ask about it when they are in the back....and im going over it anyway....i'll amaze them by going round it clockwise and then go round it anticlockwise

TD – I bet you didn’t think I’ll come-up with a picture, did you?

LOL Very good MJ ......old pics tho.....theres a red light camera now for the pedestrian lights in the top pic......and the only time you ever see it that quiet now is in the middle of the night

Bloody hell! That wasn't there the last time I went to Swindon.

TheBoy · « **Reply #43 on:** 29 December 2006, 20:43:44 »

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If you need a hand I could be free on Wednesday, weather permitting.

Thats a kind offer AA.... But its quite a distance....Watch for a PM asking for your phone number if i get stuck doing the breathers

Not a problem, and I could try out my new SatNav
The famous magic roundabout in Swindon should give it a good workout

My old Tomtom go was useless at it.....my tomtom510 knows it 5 roundabouts in one and get its right
Actually sometimes if visitors ask about it when they are in the back....and im going over it anyway....i'll amaze them by going round it clockwise and then go round it anticlockwise

TD – I bet you didn’t think I’ll come-up with a picture, did you?

LOL Very good MJ ......old pics tho.....theres a red light camera now for the pedestrian lights in the top pic......and the only time you ever see it that quiet now is in the middle of the night

Bloody hell! That wasn't there the last time I went to Swindon.

Probably not, it was built after the war

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #44 on:** 29 December 2006, 20:50:37 »

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If you need a hand I could be free on Wednesday, weather permitting.

Thats a kind offer AA.... But its quite a distance....Watch for a PM asking for your phone number if i get stuck doing the breathers

Not a problem, and I could try out my new SatNav
The famous magic roundabout in Swindon should give it a good workout

My old Tomtom go was useless at it.....my tomtom510 knows it 5 roundabouts in one and get its right
Actually sometimes if visitors ask about it when they are in the back....and im going over it anyway....i'll amaze them by going round it clockwise and then go round it anticlockwise

TD – I bet you didn’t think I’ll come-up with a picture, did you?

LOL Very good MJ ......old pics tho.....theres a red light camera now for the pedestrian lights in the top pic......and the only time you ever see it that quiet now is in the middle of the night

Bloody hell! That wasn't there the last time I went to Swindon.
Probably not, it was built after the war

What the red light camera or the magic roundabout

Markjay · « **Reply #45 on:** 29 December 2006, 20:54:47 »

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If you need a hand I could be free on Wednesday, weather permitting.

Thats a kind offer AA.... But its quite a distance....Watch for a PM asking for your phone number if i get stuck doing the breathers

Not a problem, and I could try out my new SatNav
The famous magic roundabout in Swindon should give it a good workout

My old Tomtom go was useless at it.....my tomtom510 knows it 5 roundabouts in one and get its right
Actually sometimes if visitors ask about it when they are in the back....and im going over it anyway....i'll amaze them by going round it clockwise and then go round it anticlockwise

TD – I bet you didn’t think I’ll come-up with a picture, did you?

LOL Very good MJ ......old pics tho.....theres a red light camera now for the pedestrian lights in the top pic......and the only time you ever see it that quiet now is in the middle of the night

Bloody hell! That wasn't there the last time I went to Swindon.
Probably not, it was built after the war

Markjay · « **Reply #46 on:** 29 December 2006, 21:01:43 »

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LOL Very good MJ ......old pics tho.....theres a red light camera now for the pedestrian lights in the top pic......and the only time you ever see it that quiet now is in the middle of the night

Picky, aren't we? Well here goes with the traffic light:

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #47 on:** 29 December 2006, 21:14:25 »

Thing is.....im amazed really.....that a not even a 4 yo omega that has done 80k.....and servicing history shows 10k oil changes....ok not enuf really....but still twice the oil/filter changes that vx recommend.....that it appears my omega is suffering from blown cam gasket....probably due to blocked breathers.....i carnt understand....not had this before...on any car ive owned

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #48 on:** 29 December 2006, 21:17:45 »

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LOL Very good MJ ......old pics tho.....theres a red light camera now for the pedestrian lights in the top pic......and the only time you ever see it that quiet now is in the middle of the night

Picky, aren't we? Well here goes with the traffic light:

Umm i meant theres a RED light catchy you thingy if you jump the red light....

TheBoy · « **Reply #49 on:** 29 December 2006, 21:18:32 »

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Thing is.....im amazed really.....that a not even a 4 yo omega that has done 80k.....and servicing history shows 10k oil changes....ok not enuf really....but still twice the oil/filter changes that vx recommend.....that it appears my omega is suffering from blown cam gasket....probably due to blocked breathers.....i carnt understand....not had this before...on any car ive owned

Do you do a lot of short journeys? If so, do oil far more regular.... ...also, is oil black when changed, if so, you've left it far too long...

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #50 on:** 29 December 2006, 21:42:44 »

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Thing is.....im amazed really.....that a not even a 4 yo omega that has done 80k.....and servicing history shows 10k oil changes....ok not enuf really....but still twice the oil/filter changes that vx recommend.....that it appears my omega is suffering from blown cam gasket....probably due to blocked breathers.....i carnt understand....not had this before...on any car ive owned
Do you do a lot of short journeys? If so, do oil far more regular.... ...also, is oil black when changed, if so, you've left it far too long...

Taxing can be a week of short journeys....then a few runs like this week....merc diesel has done 170k and ok....veccyB has done 170k also ok but did need new gearbox and cluch recently...and does use some oil....VeccyC is only upto 90k....but ok....Omega is far the worst for things going wrong

with only 80k

Markjay · « **Reply #51 on:** 29 December 2006, 22:11:47 »

I understand how you must feel about this, BUT the 4-Pot Ecotec engine is the same one that is also fitted in Astras and Vectras, so it’s just bad luck and you can’t really fault the Omega for this…

Markjay · « **Reply #52 on:** 29 December 2006, 22:18:11 »

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Umm i meant theres a RED light catchy you thingy if you jump the red light....

Happy now???

Chopsdad · « **Reply #53 on:** 29 December 2006, 22:30:00 »

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Thing is.....im amazed really.....that a not even a 4 yo omega that has done 80k.....and servicing history shows 10k oil changes....ok not enuf really....but still twice the oil/filter changes that vx recommend.....that it appears my omega is suffering from blown cam gasket....probably due to blocked breathers.....i carnt understand....not had this before...on any car ive owned
Do you do a lot of short journeys? If so, do oil far more regular.... ...also, is oil black when changed, if so, you've left it far too long...

I changed mine this week TD & oil was black - only covered 5000 miles in 6m but mostly round town & one of my breathers ( the metal one from the sump) was gunked up - so don't leave it too long b4 you clean them - novice scale of difficulty 2/10.

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #54 on:** 30 December 2006, 08:23:25 »

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Umm i meant theres a RED light catchy you thingy if you jump the red light....

Happy now???

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #55 on:** 30 December 2006, 08:26:49 »

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Thing is.....im amazed really.....that a not even a 4 yo omega that has done 80k.....and servicing history shows 10k oil changes....ok not enuf really....but still twice the oil/filter changes that vx recommend.....that it appears my omega is suffering from blown cam gasket....probably due to blocked breathers.....i carnt understand....not had this before...on any car ive owned
Do you do a lot of short journeys? If so, do oil far more regular.... ...also, is oil black when changed, if so, you've left it far too long...

I changed mine this week TD & oil was black - only covered 5000 miles in 6m but mostly round town & one of my breathers ( the metal one from the sump) was gunked up - so don't leave it too long b4 you clean them - novice scale of difficulty 2/10.

Having a go next week....as soon as parts come

TheBoy · « **Reply #56 on:** 30 December 2006, 16:05:10 »

As many here know, I do my oil every 3 - 4k. I will be doing my breathers again in a month or so, so we will see what they look like.....

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #57 on:** 30 December 2006, 17:13:17 »

I was thinking of doing gasket and breathers originally, on Wed next week, then I remembered I'm doing a job on Wednesday.....takes about 5/6 hours and do about 320 miles. So thought Thurs/Fri might be better depending on weather. But now Ive decided that if the weather is ok and parts come in at vx dealer early enough id rather have a go on Tuesday...(as i dont really fancy doing 320miles non stop with cam gasket leaking!)...just on the breathers....coz i dont think i can break anything so i carnt use the car on wed.....and with clear breathers, gasket might stop leaking. :-/ Then do the gasket on Thurs/Fri?

Does this sound a good plan?

I used the car this afternoon, did about 50 miles.....not working tomorrow but will still do about 15 miles in it....but do plan to work NY day.....prolly do about 100 miles.

Just a bit conscious of using it too much with the current prob :-/

Auto Addict · « **Reply #58 on:** 30 December 2006, 18:38:33 »

The breathers and throttle body shouldn't take more than an hour (including fag breaks), and it won't do any harm.

Markjay · « **Reply #59 on:** 30 December 2006, 19:08:17 »

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....and it won't do any harm.

...the fags will...

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #60 on:** 30 December 2006, 20:52:16 »

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(including fag breaks),

Blimey, so 10 mins its done then

Auto Addict · « **Reply #61 on:** 30 December 2006, 21:14:44 »

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....and it won't do any harm.

...the fags will...

...No, they won't clog up the breathers on a 2.2......

Auto Addict · « **Reply #62 on:** 30 December 2006, 21:15:46 »

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(including fag breaks),

Blimey, so 10 mins its done then

Don't forget to clean out the tube on the cam cover.......

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #63 on:** 30 December 2006, 21:29:31 »

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....and it won't do any harm.

...the fags will...

...No, they won't clog up the breathers on a 2.2......

True AA

.....never seen my 2.2 having a crafty ciggie

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #64 on:** 30 December 2006, 21:33:08 »

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(including fag breaks),

Blimey, so 10 mins its done then

Don't forget to clean out the tube on the cam cover.......

Have read and will follow your how to AA.....so unless thats not included in your how to....it will be done

Auto Addict · « **Reply #65 on:** 30 December 2006, 21:43:51 »

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(including fag breaks),

Blimey, so 10 mins its done then

Don't forget to clean out the tube on the cam cover.......

Have read and will follow your how to AA.....so unless thats not included in your how to....it will be done

It's not, se here:-

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1167251454/13#13

mar892ree · « **Reply #66 on:** 31 December 2006, 09:14:29 »

TD the jobs in question are VERY easy mate, and aided by AA's wonderful how to, you cant go wrong mate !

One thing i did notice having done my breathers twice now in 12 months ( oil change intervals) - the first time there was some noticeable crap in them, especially the cam cover to throttle body pipes, second time, there was the slightest of desposits ( but still cleaned them out) . The crankcase to cam cover breather on mine has always remained very clear !

One job that AA did an how to for, has had the biggest impact on my car - cleaning throttle body !

My throttle body always looked loverly and clean ( sitting bolted to the car) but always seemed to have a slight oily despoit around the joint where the air intake tube sits/clamps on top of it !

Off came the throttle body and OH MY GOD , the inside/underneath looked like Sadam Hussiens under pants ! As crapped up as anything i have ever seen ! 1/2 hour later a can of carb clean, some suitable small diameter wire ( to poke out little breather holes) it looked brand new again !
Mounted back on car with new gasket and bolted down , no more oily deposits, so far on out side of throttle body.
AA's how to on this and the breather cleaning is excellent, and doesnt miss anything out ( dont worry you wont discover anything that isnt covered in the how to ), but as also mention in his how to, dont over tighten the throttle body when re-assembling

Good luck mate, although you wont be needing it

Oh - if your breather pipes are quite chocked up, which mine were first time around, use lots of carb cleaner and a coat hanger with a rag on the end of it , or similar to push through the breather hoses ( straightened out of course)

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #67 on:** 31 December 2006, 10:13:57 »

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(including fag breaks),

Blimey, so 10 mins its done then

Don't forget to clean out the tube on the cam cover.......

Have read and will follow your how to AA.....so unless thats not included in your how to....it will be done

It's not, se here:-

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1167251454/13#13

Ah rite, gotcha

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