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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 June 2023, 14:43:01
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This so called safety aid is utter wank.
At best it is annoying and frustrating, at worst it is dangerous.
I've resorted to the most 'reduced' settings but it still vibrates the wheel as it tries to drag the car where I don't want it to go.
It takes 8 prods of the touch screen to disable each time the car is started......but is back again when the car is next started. I wonder if there is a shortcut I'm not aware of.
Does anyone have experience of this?
I really dislike this electronic nanny. :-X
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Juding by the video on YT it looks like you have done what you can.
Havent flicked through th rest.
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Apparently not. Like start/stop on lesser cars, it is on by default at start up. As you know, you can stop it wrenching the steering wheel from your grasp, but you're still going to get the vibration.
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Could something like Tech 2 be used with the right prgram to dissable it?
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Could something like Tech 2 be used with the right prgram to dissable it?
No, it's a safety feature.
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Could something like Tech 2 be used with the right prgram to dissable it?
I may take an axe to it. ;D
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Could something like Tech 2 be used with the right prgram to dissable it?
No, it's a safety feature.
Safety feature my arse. ::) I think it is more likely to cause an accident rather than prevent one.
If I had to press just one physical button I wouldn't mind, but the way to disable it is buried within menu, sub menu, and more menu because it is all controlled via the touchscreen.
Same with the climate control. What exactly is wrong with buttons. ::)
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Could something like Tech 2 be used with the right prgram to dissable it?
No, it's a safety feature.
Safety feature my arse. ::) I think it is more likely to cause an accident rather than prevent one.
If I had to press just one physical button I wouldn't mind, but the way to disable it is buried within menu, sub menu, and more menu because it is all controlled via the touchscreen.
Same with the climate control. What exactly is wrong with buttons. ::)
Buy a car designed for young, tech savvy people, and this is what you get.
Shame they stopped using the starting handle, eh? ;D
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Stay in the middle of your lane and you'll be fine :-*
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Just a thought....maybe someone in the know could disable the actual device that vibrates the steering wheel. By disable I mean physically cut the wires to the little bastard or something. Not something I'd want to do to a two day old car, but if it's driving you mental....... :-\
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There are usually two levels,
Lane departure warning which should not activate if you are using indicators when changing lane or using a junction...........its a BMW so clearly the indicators are not an option.
The second is an emergency lane departure warning, this one you can't disable as its a 'safety' level feature and all cars must be preset to the mode they passed in at every key on. It can kick in when it thinks you are about to crash off the side of the road or hit a barrier.........of course its an ADAS function so not brilliant
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Just a thought....maybe someone in the know could disable the actual device that vibrates the steering wheel. By disable I mean physically cut the wires to the little bastard or something. Not something I'd want to do to a two day old car, but if it's driving you mental....... :-\
That will be a column or rack mounted motor which also does the equivalent of the powe steering.........so an excellent option >:D
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There are usually two levels,
Lane departure warning which should not activate if you are using indicators when changing lane or using a junction...........its a BMW so clearly the indicators are not an option.
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That’s not the problem on BMW’s Mark, the problem is that the software will see a shiny tarmac repair strip running inline with the road as a white line and physically move the car out of line. It’s downright dangerous, but on the earlier (2020) vehicles fitted with virtual cockpit you can turn it off each time you start up, but not disable it permanently I believe. When turned off, the little green car between the two lines on the display disappears.
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I was gonna buy one of them beemers, glad I didn't bother now ::)
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Her XE, the land assist seems to be sticky, in the it stays off between starts. Actually, I think the shitbox Vauxhall 208 Enterprise keep giving me has a sticky lane assist toggle...
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Presumably it's using an optical sensor to see the white lines. Find the sensor, and stick some tape over it?
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This is an example of what confuses the sensor. The road has multiple repairs and shiny strips of tarmac, so if you want a laugh, let go of the steering wheel and let the car decide where it wants to go. ::) ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/BzqzQkL/IMG-2023-6-12-171104.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1v8vPcZ)
You’ll note that this road has a kerbside white line. It adds to the fun with no kerbside white line. ;D
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I was gonna buy one of them beemers, glad I didn't bother now ::)
I bet you were gonna get a Bell End Purple one, as the residual values are higher because that's what all the drug dealers want? >:D
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Who decided lane assist was so f*ucking necessary to save us all from ourselves?.
I'll wager it was some lentil loving vegan in his twenties from north London with pink hair and pronouns.
I'm pretty sure you have to keep the car on the road to pass the driving test in the first place......and if you can't you shouldn't be on the road.
Other than using it to get you home from the pub after 17 pints of Wifebeater ale I can't see the need for it.
I've found a shortcut that can disable it in 4 rather than 8 prods so that is something, I suppose.
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This is an example of what confuses the sensor. The road has multiple repairs and shiny strips of tarmac, so if you want a laugh, let go of the steering wheel and let the car decide where it wants to go. ::) ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/BzqzQkL/IMG-2023-6-12-171104.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1v8vPcZ)
You’ll note that this road has a kerbside white line. It adds to the fun with no kerbside white line. ;D
Pretty sure that the system on my car was braking individual wheels to make the car change direction.
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This 'lane assist' bollix sounds a bit unnerving to me. :-\
Mind you I still think that parking sensors are a technological wonder! ;D
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This 'lane assist' bollix sounds a bit unnerving to me. :-\
Mind you I still think that parking sensors are a technological wonder! ;D
It's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
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I've found a shortcut that can disable it in 4 rather than 8 prods so that is something, I suppose
Shame once it's set that it can't be saved as a driver setting
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This 'lane assist' bollix sounds a bit unnerving to me. :-\
Mind you I still think that parking sensors are a technological wonder! ;D
It's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
Same as leccy parking/hand brakes
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Wanna buy a nice old Omega ? ;D
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Wanna buy a nice old Omega ? ;D
Do you know anyone that's got one? ;D
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Her XE, the land assist seems to be sticky, in the it stays off between starts. Actually, I think the shitbox Vauxhall 208 Enterprise keep giving me has a sticky lane assist toggle...
Yep, mine stays off too, although it only does the vibrate thing. That's annoying enough, and what's the use of a safety feature that relies on road markings being adequately maintained in this country? ;D.
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Wanna buy a nice old Omega ? ;D
Do you know anyone that's got one? ;D
MEEEEEE. :D
Its not for sale though. :)
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There are usually two levels,
Lane departure warning which should not activate if you are using indicators when changing lane or using a junction...........its a BMW so clearly the indicators are not an option.
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That’s not the problem on BMW’s Mark, the problem is that the software will see a shiny tarmac repair strip running inline with the road as a white line and physically move the car out of line. It’s downright dangerous, but on the earlier (2020) vehicles fitted with virtual cockpit you can turn it off each time you start up, but not disable it permanently I believe. When turned off, the little green car between the two lines on the display disappears.
They all do that, they are more than happy to guide you towards the central reservation if they see a long removed contraflow burn strip on the tarmac
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There are usually two levels,
Lane departure warning which should not activate if you are using indicators when changing lane or using a junction...........its a BMW so clearly the indicators are not an option.
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That’s not the problem on BMW’s Mark, the problem is that the software will see a shiny tarmac repair strip running inline with the road as a white line and physically move the car out of line. It’s downright dangerous, but on the earlier (2020) vehicles fitted with virtual cockpit you can turn it off each time you start up, but not disable it permanently I believe. When turned off, the little green car between the two lines on the display disappears.
They all do that, they are more than happy to guide you towards the central reservation if they see a long removed contraflow burn strip on the tarmac
Zackly.... :D >:D
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A bloke at work had an accident in France in his Tesla and blamed tit on the inbuilt lane assist type witchcraft. Apparently he got a broken windscreen out of it that cost £1500 to replace. :-\
No idea what the problem was a couple of weeks ago, when he ran over a cyclist and killed him. :(
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Her XE, the land assist seems to be sticky, in the it stays off between starts. Actually, I think the shitbox Vauxhall 208 Enterprise keep giving me has a sticky lane assist toggle...
Yep, mine stays off too, although it only does the vibrate thing. That's annoying enough, and what's the use of a safety feature that relies on road markings being adequately maintained in this country? ;D.
My dad had Lane Assist back in the 70s....
He used to drive along the cats eyes on the motorway, and he used to say if the car drifted off them, it would wake him up ;D
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My lane assist sits in the passenger seat. :) If she spots any noticeable eye movement when I’m checking my mirrors and my left hand lingering near the sport button, she pipes up ‘We’re not in a hurry, we’re ok in this lane’. ::)
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We are both married to the same woman. :o ;D
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We are both married to the same woman. :o ;D
;D :y
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A bloke at work had an accident in France in his Tesla and blamed tit on the inbuilt lane assist type witchcraft. Apparently he got a broken windscreen out of it that cost £1500 to replace. :-\
No idea what the problem was a couple of weeks ago, when he ran over a cyclist and killed him. :(
That could ruin your day...
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Her XE, the land assist seems to be sticky, in the it stays off between starts. Actually, I think the shitbox Vauxhall 208 Enterprise keep giving me has a sticky lane assist toggle...
Yep, mine stays off too, although it only does the vibrate thing. That's annoying enough, and what's the use of a safety feature that relies on road markings being adequately maintained in this country? ;D.
Good point this. :)
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Daughter just got back from the States, and the lane deviation on the Caddy she hired caused the driver's seat to vibrate! Could appeal to some I imagine, but it frightened her to death the first time. ;D
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Daughter just got back from the States, and the lane deviation on the Caddy she hired caused the driver's seat to vibrate! Could appeal to some I imagine, but it frightened her to death the first time. ;D
Ah yes, seat shakers, something of a favourite with some manufacturers as it gets around using warning bongs (ASIL B) and info panel (ASIL B) to achieve automated driving assistance functions warnings and meeting the safety needs (Which is ASIL D, made up of two Bs to get redundancy) whilst allowing for the hearing impaired
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The Nissan Altima we had buzzed the steering wheel. More of a distracting irritation than useful.
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I have just spoken with the BMW 'Genius' man.
He confirmed that due to NCAP safety standards the lane assist can't be permanently deleted.
He also confirmed that he has no end of customers asking the same question.
Still, I suppose it enables retards and cretins who are incapable of driving a straight course access to the Kings highway. ::)......and we are all told to be inclusive these days. :-X
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Anyone who needs such tech to wake them up, or remind them they are wandering out of there lane should not be allowed to drive ,they should hand their licence back and use public transport ::)
that said . the shocking. appallingly bad standard of some driving these days :o many people should NOT have a licence ,driver aids or not >:(
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I have just spoken with the BMW 'Genius' man.
He confirmed that due to NCAP safety standards the lane assist can't be permanently deleted.
He also confirmed that he has no end of customers asking the same question.
Still, I suppose it enables retards and cretins who are incapable of driving a straight course access to the Kings highway. ::)......and we are all told to be inclusive these days. :-X
Not to worry, Opti, you get used to it. In fact, you'll probably grow to love it, and wonder how you ever got by without it. Or.......you'll regret ever buying the fickin nannying heap of shite ;D ;D
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I have just spoken with the BMW 'Genius' man.
He confirmed that due to NCAP safety standards the lane assist can't be permanently deleted.
He also confirmed that he has no end of customers asking the same question.
Still, I suppose it enables retards and cretins who are incapable of driving a straight course access to the Kings highway. ::)......and we are all told to be inclusive these days. :-X
Not to worry, Opti, you get used to it. In fact, you'll probably grow to love it, and wonder how you ever got by without it. Or.......you'll regret ever buying the fickin nannying heap of shite ;D ;D
Nope....because I will switch it off. Along with the stop/start system that will save the polar ice from melting. :)
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Anyone who needs such tech to wake them up, or remind them they are wandering out of there lane should not be allowed to drive ,they should hand their licence back and use public transport ::)
that said . the shocking. appallingly bad standard of some driving these days :o many people should NOT have a licence ,driver aids or not >:(
It's amazing how OAP's in their beige Honda Civic manage to end up spearing it through the window of Tesco with all these driver aids. ::) :)
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I have just spoken with the BMW 'Genius' man.
He confirmed that due to NCAP safety standards the lane assist can't be permanently deleted.
He also confirmed that he has no end of customers asking the same question.
Still, I suppose it enables retards and cretins who are incapable of driving a straight course access to the Kings highway. ::)......and we are all told to be inclusive these days. :-X
Not to worry, Opti, you get used to it. In fact, you'll probably grow to love it, and wonder how you ever got by without it. Or.......you'll regret ever buying the fickin nannying heap of shite ;D ;D
Nope....because I will switch it off. Along with the stop/start system that will save the polar ice from melting. :)
How long does it take to turn off all the nannying shite before you head off to Waitrose? ??? ;D
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I'm sure there must be someone out there that can switch it off for good ..... if they're clever enough to write Adblue out & re-map engine ECUs .... give it time ....
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I have just spoken with the BMW 'Genius' man.
He confirmed that due to NCAP safety standards the lane assist can't be permanently deleted.
He also confirmed that he has no end of customers asking the same question.
Still, I suppose it enables retards and cretins who are incapable of driving a straight course access to the Kings highway. ::)......and we are all told to be inclusive these days. :-X
Not to worry, Opti, you get used to it. In fact, you'll probably grow to love it, and wonder how you ever got by without it. Or.......you'll regret ever buying the fickin nannying heap of shite ;D ;D
Nope....because I will switch it off. Along with the stop/start system that will save the polar ice from melting. :)
How long does it take to turn off all the nannying shite before you head off to Lidl? ??? ;D
FTFY.
Three prods down from eight. :)
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I'm sure there must be someone out there that can switch it off for good ..... if they're clever enough to write Adblue out & re-map engine ECUs .... give it time ....
Some clever bod from The BMW tech team could probably code it out in five minutes flat.....but they won't. :-\
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I'm sure there must be someone out there that can switch it off for good ..... if they're clever enough to write Adblue out & re-map engine ECUs .... give it time ....
Some clever bod from The BMW tech team could probably code it out in five minutes flat.....but they won't. :-\
I wonder if it can be disabled on Carly. :-\
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Since the NCAP update, is it still possible to set it to Individual Mode and untick Steering Intervention. Previously, this left the green light on but stopped it pulling. :-\
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I'm sure there must be someone out there that can switch it off for good ..... if they're clever enough to write Adblue out & re-map engine ECUs .... give it time ....
Some clever bod from The BMW tech team could probably code it out in five minutes flat.....but they won't. :-\
I wonder if it can be disabled on Carly. :-\
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This 'lane assist' bollix sounds a bit unnerving to me. :-\
Mind you I still think that parking sensors are a technological wonder! ;D
It's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
I have onLy read a half of this thread. Welcome to the future!. All vehicles will have to have this feature to facilitate 100%driverless mode. In the meantime , we have to put up with it. On the plus side it may be lives ( yours included) by stopping other vehicles drifting off line as the driver nods off. Big problem on the continent with vast distances with no hold ups or traffic jams
Our car irritates me with beeping to let you know you haven't input to the steering. I.e. you have fallen asleep or driven in a straight line or a constant small turn.
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I'm sure there must be someone out there that can switch it off for good ..... if they're clever enough to write Adblue out & re-map engine ECUs .... give it time ....
Some clever bod from The BMW tech team could probably code it out in five minutes flat.....but they won't. :-\
I wonder if it can be disabled on Carly. :-\
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Carly is an OBD Port Dongle. You load the app on your mobile phone and sign in to pair your phone to the dongle. You then have a choice of pre-proven adaptations or you can long code to change certain things within your car’s software. :y
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Just a thought. When you have your first prang in it lets hope your account bears out what the ECU’s say actually happened.
Suddenly an Omega elite looks good
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Just a thought: If you do manage to totally disable it, which I doubt you can, will you also disable your insurance policy?
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that said . the shocking. appallingly bad standard of some driving these days :o many people should NOT have a licence ,driver aids or not >:(
Steady on, DtB, clearly you haven't discovered how difficult it is to drive whilst updating your arsebook and checking in on idiotter, whilst applying your makeup, and a screen full of gonks with all you tech stuck to the windscreen....
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Just a thought. When you have your first prang in it lets hope your account bears out what the ECU’s say actually happened.
Suddenly an Omega elite looks good
The guy I from work who I mentioned earlier in the thread, who had a fatal coming to ether with a cyclist a few weeks ago had his Tesla taken away by the Police, so they could have it interrogated to see if his story agreed with the info from the car.
He has since been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving.
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The ether won't have helped any >:D
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that said . the shocking. appallingly bad standard of some driving these days :o many people should NOT have a licence ,driver aids or not >:(
Steady on, DtB, clearly you haven't discovered how difficult it is to drive whilst updating your arsebook and checking in on idiotter, whilst applying your makeup, and a screen full of gonks with all you tech stuck to the windscreen....
True ;D
But then I don't connect my phone to the internet ,I have one of those ye olde computer boxes with a 32" screen for such matters 8)
I did replace the Omega's wax cylinder player with a bluetooth enabled touch screen ,i don't answer calls or texts while driving , if someone has an emergency ,they call call 999 if it's urgent, or leave me a message or text if less urgent and they want to talk to me :P
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This 'lane assist' bollix sounds a bit unnerving to me. :-\
Mind you I still think that parking sensors are a technological wonder! ;D
It's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
I have onLy read a half of this thread. Welcome to the future!. All vehicles will have to have this feature to facilitate 100%driverless mode. In the meantime , we have to put up with it. On the plus side it may be lives ( yours included) by stopping other vehicles drifting off line as the driver nods off. Big problem on the continent with vast distances with no hold ups or traffic jams
Our car irritates me with beeping to let you know you haven't input to the steering. I.e. you have fallen asleep or driven in a straight line or a constant small turn.
Or it may be the cyclist you have just wiped out as you try to pass him but nanny decides you are too far from the kerb. :)
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I did replace the Omega's wax cylinder player with a bluetooth enabled touch screen ,i don't answer calls or texts while driving , .....
Seems like a waste of time & money then buying a bluetooth head unit if you don't answer calls while driving ::) ::)
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I did replace the Omega's wax cylinder player with a bluetooth enabled touch screen ,i don't answer calls or texts while driving , .....
Seems like a waste of time & money then buying a bluetooth head unit if you don't answer calls while driving ::) ::)
all music on a micro SD card and "bucket avoidance rear view camera" ;)
I have enough junk in my car without taking up space with cassette tapes, and 78s to play on the Omega's original radio-gram ;D
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I did replace the Omega's wax cylinder player with a bluetooth enabled touch screen ,i don't answer calls or texts while driving , .....
Seems like a waste of time & money then buying a bluetooth head unit if you don't answer calls while driving ::) ::)
all music on a micro SD card and "bucket avoidance rear view camera" ;)
I have enough junk in my car without taking up space with cassette tapes, and 78s to play on the Omega's original radio-gram ;D
:y :y
I must admit I tend to just have the radio on ..... My ML has a built in 10 Gb hard drive ... there's next to nothing on it
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I did replace the Omega's wax cylinder player with a bluetooth enabled touch screen ,i don't answer calls or texts while driving , .....
Seems like a waste of time & money then buying a bluetooth head unit if you don't answer calls while driving ::) ::)
all music on a micro SD card and "bucket avoidance rear view camera" ;)
I have enough junk in my car without taking up space with cassette tapes, and 78s to play on the Omega's original radio-gram ;D
:y :y
I must admit I tend to just have the radio on ..... My ML has a built in 10 Gb hard drive ... there's next to nothing on it
My old Jag was the same. :y worked pretty well.
No idea how to play music in my new car....other than the radio.
It doesn't appear to to a CD, a cassette tape, an 8 track cartridge, a 45, or a 78. ::) :-X
No doubt it is all related to apps and a smartphone or USB stick in some way. :-X
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I did replace the Omega's wax cylinder player with a bluetooth enabled touch screen ,i don't answer calls or texts while driving , .....
Seems like a waste of time & money then buying a bluetooth head unit if you don't answer calls while driving ::) ::)
all music on a micro SD card and "bucket avoidance rear view camera" ;)
I have enough junk in my car without taking up space with cassette tapes, and 78s to play on the Omega's original radio-gram ;D
:y :y
I must admit I tend to just have the radio on ..... My ML has a built in 10 Gb hard drive ... there's next to nothing on it
My old Jag was the same. :y worked pretty well.
No idea how to play music in my new car....other than the radio.
It doesn't appear to to a CD, a cassette tape, an 8 track cartridge, a 45, or a 78. ::) :-X
No doubt it is all related to apps and a smartphone or USB stick in some way. :-X
Probably similar to my XJ - 40Gb Hard drive, although only 10Gb is reserved for music, which it rips from inserted CDs itself to make a kind of virtual 10 disc CD changer. In addition, a USB key full of music can be plugged in (but the Gen2.1 HD system takes forever to read a USB with more than a few thousand tracks on every time the car starts), an iPod socket, and normal bluetooth music streaming....
...like Andy_B, I tend to just stick to the wireless.
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"wireless" :-\
are you 80 years old Jamie ;D
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In my company vehicle I can switch off, lane assist,hill control, aebs, but they reactivate when you switch off and start again,
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In my company vehicle I can switch off, lane assist,hill control, aebs, but they reactivate when you switch off and start again,
This is because nanny knows best. :-\
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I did replace the Omega's wax cylinder player with a bluetooth enabled touch screen ,i don't answer calls or texts while driving , .....
Seems like a waste of time & money then buying a bluetooth head unit if you don't answer calls while driving ::) ::)
all music on a micro SD card and "bucket avoidance rear view camera" ;)
I have enough junk in my car without taking up space with cassette tapes, and 78s to play on the Omega's original radio-gram ;D
:y :y
I must admit I tend to just have the radio on ..... My ML has a built in 10 Gb hard drive ... there's next to nothing on it
My old Jag was the same. :y worked pretty well.
No idea how to play music in my new car....other than the radio.
It doesn't appear to to a CD, a cassette tape, an 8 track cartridge, a 45, or a 78. ::) :-X
No doubt it is all related to apps and a smartphone or USB stick in some way. :-X
Probably similar to my XJ - 40Gb Hard drive, although only 10Gb is reserved for music, which it rips from inserted CDs itself to make a kind of virtual 10 disc CD changer. In addition, a USB key full of music can be plugged in (but the Gen2.1 HD system takes forever to read a USB with more than a few thousand tracks on every time the car starts), an iPod socket, and normal bluetooth music streaming....
...like Andy_B, I tend to just stick to the wireless.
Exactly.
My system was Meridian (I think) with about 18 speakers. If a couple stopped working I doubt I would have noticed.
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I did replace the Omega's wax cylinder player with a bluetooth enabled touch screen ,i don't answer calls or texts while driving , .....
Seems like a waste of time & money then buying a bluetooth head unit if you don't answer calls while driving ::) ::)
all music on a micro SD card and "bucket avoidance rear view camera" ;)
I have enough junk in my car without taking up space with cassette tapes, and 78s to play on the Omega's original radio-gram ;D
:y :y
I must admit I tend to just have the radio on ..... My ML has a built in 10 Gb hard drive ... there's next to nothing on it
My old Jag was the same. :y worked pretty well.
No idea how to play music in my new car....other than the radio.
It doesn't appear to to a CD, a cassette tape, an 8 track cartridge, a 45, or a 78. ::) :-X
No doubt it is all related to apps and a smartphone or USB stick in some way. :-X
Probably similar to my XJ - 40Gb Hard drive, although only 10Gb is reserved for music, which it rips from inserted CDs itself to make a kind of virtual 10 disc CD changer. In addition, a USB key full of music can be plugged in (but the Gen2.1 HD system takes forever to read a USB with more than a few thousand tracks on every time the car starts), an iPod socket, and normal bluetooth music streaming....
...like Andy_B, I tend to just stick to the wireless.
Exactly.
My system was Meridian (I think) with about 18 speakers. If a couple stopped working I doubt I would have noticed.
This is a safeguard, so when you smash out a speaker in anger at some shite on Jeremy Vine, you don't notice you're a speaker (or three) down! :D
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I did replace the Omega's wax cylinder player with a bluetooth enabled touch screen ,i don't answer calls or texts while driving , .....
Seems like a waste of time & money then buying a bluetooth head unit if you don't answer calls while driving ::) ::)
all music on a micro SD card and "bucket avoidance rear view camera" ;)
I have enough junk in my car without taking up space with cassette tapes, and 78s to play on the Omega's original radio-gram ;D
:y :y
I must admit I tend to just have the radio on ..... My ML has a built in 10 Gb hard drive ... there's next to nothing on it
My old Jag was the same. :y worked pretty well.
No idea how to play music in my new car....other than the radio.
It doesn't appear to to a CD, a cassette tape, an 8 track cartridge, a 45, or a 78. ::) :-X
No doubt it is all related to apps and a smartphone or USB stick in some way. :-X
Probably similar to my XJ - 40Gb Hard drive, although only 10Gb is reserved for music, which it rips from inserted CDs itself to make a kind of virtual 10 disc CD changer. In addition, a USB key full of music can be plugged in (but the Gen2.1 HD system takes forever to read a USB with more than a few thousand tracks on every time the car starts), an iPod socket, and normal bluetooth music streaming....
...like Andy_B, I tend to just stick to the wireless.
BMW has Hard drive, USB, Streaming etc. I do have quite a bit of Music stored on the Hard Drive sorted into different directories and find it easy to use when you've exhausted all the DAB stations :y
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I did replace the Omega's wax cylinder player with a bluetooth enabled touch screen ,i don't answer calls or texts while driving , .....
Seems like a waste of time & money then buying a bluetooth head unit if you don't answer calls while driving ::) ::)
all music on a micro SD card and "bucket avoidance rear view camera" ;)
I have enough junk in my car without taking up space with cassette tapes, and 78s to play on the Omega's original radio-gram ;D
:y :y
I must admit I tend to just have the radio on ..... My ML has a built in 10 Gb hard drive ... there's next to nothing on it
My old Jag was the same. :y worked pretty well.
No idea how to play music in my new car....other than the radio.
It doesn't appear to to a CD, a cassette tape, an 8 track cartridge, a 45, or a 78. ::) :-X
No doubt it is all related to apps and a smartphone or USB stick in some way. :-X
Probably similar to my XJ - 40Gb Hard drive, although only 10Gb is reserved for music, which it rips from inserted CDs itself to make a kind of virtual 10 disc CD changer. In addition, a USB key full of music can be plugged in (but the Gen2.1 HD system takes forever to read a USB with more than a few thousand tracks on every time the car starts), an iPod socket, and normal bluetooth music streaming....
...like Andy_B, I tend to just stick to the wireless.
BMW has Hard drive, USB, Streaming etc. I do have quite a bit of Music stored on the Hard Drive sorted into different directories and find it easy to use when you've exhausted all the DAB stations :y
Thanks VXL.....but I wish technology would slow down a bit so I can keep up. :y
The old boys on here like STMO and Ronny must be in a permanent state of confusion. ::)
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I did replace the Omega's wax cylinder player with a bluetooth enabled touch screen ,i don't answer calls or texts while driving , .....
Seems like a waste of time & money then buying a bluetooth head unit if you don't answer calls while driving ::) ::)
all music on a micro SD card and "bucket avoidance rear view camera" ;)
I have enough junk in my car without taking up space with cassette tapes, and 78s to play on the Omega's original radio-gram ;D
:y :y
I must admit I tend to just have the radio on ..... My ML has a built in 10 Gb hard drive ... there's next to nothing on it
My old Jag was the same. :y worked pretty well.
No idea how to play music in my new car....other than the radio.
It doesn't appear to to a CD, a cassette tape, an 8 track cartridge, a 45, or a 78. ::) :-X
No doubt it is all related to apps and a smartphone or USB stick in some way. :-X
Probably similar to my XJ - 40Gb Hard drive, although only 10Gb is reserved for music, which it rips from inserted CDs itself to make a kind of virtual 10 disc CD changer. In addition, a USB key full of music can be plugged in (but the Gen2.1 HD system takes forever to read a USB with more than a few thousand tracks on every time the car starts), an iPod socket, and normal bluetooth music streaming....
...like Andy_B, I tend to just stick to the wireless.
BMW has Hard drive, USB, Streaming etc. I do have quite a bit of Music stored on the Hard Drive sorted into different directories and find it easy to use when you've exhausted all the DAB stations :y
Thanks VXL.....but I wish technology would slow down a bit so I can keep up. :y
The old boys on here like STMO and Ronny must be in a permanent state of confusion. ::)
Thing is....I am of the opinion that all of this modern tech is totally unnecessary. I don't need a hard drive to rip 10CDs to, it's quicker, and easier to just have 10 CDs and change them as necessary. There are very few places I can't get close enough to without sat nav. The only thing that confuses me, Opti, is why people would pay so much money for something that is actually taking away from their ability to think for themselves. Your BMW is a great car, but it would be 10 grand cheaper, and better to drive, without all the electronic shite that comes with it.
Ted Kaczinski had it right, social media and the lastest tech is actually making people more backward.
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I did replace the Omega's wax cylinder player with a bluetooth enabled touch screen ,i don't answer calls or texts while driving , .....
Seems like a waste of time & money then buying a bluetooth head unit if you don't answer calls while driving ::) ::)
all music on a micro SD card and "bucket avoidance rear view camera" ;)
I have enough junk in my car without taking up space with cassette tapes, and 78s to play on the Omega's original radio-gram ;D
:y :y
I must admit I tend to just have the radio on ..... My ML has a built in 10 Gb hard drive ... there's next to nothing on it
My old Jag was the same. :y worked pretty well.
No idea how to play music in my new car....other than the radio.
It doesn't appear to to a CD, a cassette tape, an 8 track cartridge, a 45, or a 78. ::) :-X
No doubt it is all related to apps and a smartphone or USB stick in some way. :-X
Probably similar to my XJ - 40Gb Hard drive, although only 10Gb is reserved for music, which it rips from inserted CDs itself to make a kind of virtual 10 disc CD changer. In addition, a USB key full of music can be plugged in (but the Gen2.1 HD system takes forever to read a USB with more than a few thousand tracks on every time the car starts), an iPod socket, and normal bluetooth music streaming....
...like Andy_B, I tend to just stick to the wireless.
BMW has Hard drive, USB, Streaming etc. I do have quite a bit of Music stored on the Hard Drive sorted into different directories and find it easy to use when you've exhausted all the DAB stations :y
Thanks VXL.....but I wish technology would slow down a bit so I can keep up. :y
The old boys on here like STMO and Ronny must be in a permanent state of confusion. ::)
Thing is....I am of the opinion that all of this modern tech is totally unnecessary. I don't need a hard drive to rip 10CDs to, it's quicker, and easier to just have 10 CDs and change them as necessary. There are very few places I can't get close enough to without sat nav. The only thing that confuses me, Opti, is why people would pay so much money for something that is actually taking away from their ability to think for themselves. Your BMW is a great car, but it would be 10 grand cheaper, and better to drive, without all the electronic shite that comes with it.
Ted Kaczinski had it right, social media and the lastest tech is actually making people more backward.
Wot he just said! :D
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I find it best just to drive a cheap old car! :y
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I find it best just to drive a cheap old car! :y
Wot he just said. ;D
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I expect Lord Optis car will have a Tuner (which has to include DAB as all tuner equipped cars sold in europe and the uk have to have a DAB tuner if a tuner is fitted...........and tuners might dissappear in the future...), wireless CarPlay/Android auto for phone projection, bluetooth, Nav (althoguh Google Maps/Waze will be better via CarPlay/Android Auto) and USB.
Internal hard drives are dying out, they were mainly flash based (although earlier ones were spinning discs), as they need to be big and it just adds to the wear rate.
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I expect Lord Optis car will have a Tuner (which has to include DAB as all tuner equipped cars sold in europe and the uk have to have a DAB tuner if a tuner is fitted...........and tuners might dissappear in the future...), wireless CarPlay/Android auto for phone projection, bluetooth, Nav (althoguh Google Maps/Waze will be better via CarPlay/Android Auto) and USB.
Internal hard drives are dying out, they were mainly flash based (although earlier ones were spinning discs), as they need to be big and it just adds to the wear rate.
The wife's Astra has a DAB tuner, wired CarPlay/Android, Bluetooth, Nav and USB. It doesn't have lane departure warning though, thank god. ;D
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Wife's Astra, soon to be my Astra.
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Interestingly the NCAP rating is based on it being fitted:
https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/opel%2Fvauxhall/astra/22038
Although it looks like GM may have been telling NCAP porkies:
The autonomous emergency braking system is an option which is expected to be widely sold, so it was included in the assessment.
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Necessary tech is good. Unnecessary tech is a pain in the arse.
Lane assist is unnecessary tech, and Steve Cropley who has been a motoring journalist for 50 year with Autocar magazine spoke out against it this week when he described it as dangerous and the cause of many accidents.
He says it becomes more intrusive with each new advance in technology, and has caused many cars to crash down big potholes the driver was trying to avoid.
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My system was Meridian (I think) with about 18 speakers. If a couple stopped working I doubt I would have noticed.
I've had to change quite a few. Mine is the (supposedly) 1200W version, and she does like a disco when driving, so its not unusual to have blown speakers after she's used it for a few days!
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(although earlier ones were spinning discs)
I think with the selection of IAMs I had off you when I let all the magic smoke out of mine, I should be good for the life of this car :y
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Wife's Astra, soon to be my Astra.
Bit greedy Uncle Stemo ::) you can only drive one at a time :D
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Wife's Astra, soon to be my Astra.
Bit greedy Uncle Stemo ::) you can only drive one at a time :D
Mine's showing it's age, Dave, so it's going to the big webuyanycar in the sky :'(
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Wife's Astra, soon to be my Astra.
Bit greedy Uncle Stemo ::) you can only drive one at a time :D
Mine's showing it's age, Dave, so it's going to the big webuyanycar in the sky :'(
Fairy Nuff :)
your lad not drive :-\
Just think of all the "fun" you could have teaching him :D
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This so called safety aid is utter wank.
At best it is annoying and frustrating, at worst it is dangerous.
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I really dislike this electronic nanny. :-X
If you think lane assist is dangerous, hopefully you haven’t got the collision sensor auto emergency braking system on yours. If you have a flat rectangular sensor in your lower grill beware. If it gets too dirty, or the sun shines on it too brightly, it can throw on the anchors as it thinks it’s going to crash. I gave my daughter my new bmw with all the toys on just over two years ago and in that two years it’s happened around five times. Luckily nobody was that close behind her to cause her to be rear ended. :(
Clever technology but downright dangerous when the sensor misinterprets the signal. ::)
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Wife's new car has lane assist, one long press of a button and it's off :)
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Wife's new car has lane assist, one long press of a button and it's off :)
Same on an Audi, single press on the end of the indicator stalk. :y On my daughter’s bmw it’s a long press on the button that sits between the central air vents.