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Not to mention that it does have some wholly legitimate medical uses, and is far less dangerous than alcohol or tobacco....

Overall I’m really not certain what the rational justification is for keeping it illegal.
Depends on the person.

We all know alcohol impacts people differently, and all know chain smokers, 20 a day, all their life, living into their 90s.

As there are people who are mentally oppsed up through smoking a bit too much weed.

That is not chain smoking TB.  60-80 per day is the measure of true chain smoking.  One of our past company directors smoked at least 60 Capstan Full Strength per day; he was already down to one lung in his 50's, and breathless most of the time retiring early.

One of my uncles, along with my auntie chain smoked to the tune of 80 each per day, being used to duty free cigs when in the Royal Navy.  He lost both legs, and like her died in their late 50's.

I could go on with other family examples with those who smoked constantly when it was once socially acceptable, and "so good for your health" (!!!) to do so, and although I worked in a retail company selling the bloody stuff, but never smoking it myself, I have always wanted to ban tobacco products.

 But that would do no good, no more than the current criminalisation of smoking cannibis. Cannibis (directly or indirectly) tobacco and alcohol all kills or shortens life in the long run, so let the government control cannibis use as it does the rest, produce revenue, and gradually reduce consumption as it has with tobacco and alcohol (yes figures are showing that there has been a drop in youngsters consumption) ,along with an overall decline in public houses. Then the police can target other criminal activity, which often is funded by cannibis production and supply, including the supply and use of class 'A' drugs.

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Go and visit your local mental health hospital and take a bit of time to study the people who have had their brains fried by smoking the shit, then you might see the justification for keeping it illegal.
Many of them will be well below the age of 18 by the way.
This is a subject very close to my heart, and I find it frustrating when people are glib about it.  :-X

It is not a case of being glib about this subject but the fact is the war against the use of cannibis, with cannibis farms apparently in every street, is being lost at great cost.  Why not legalise it and control it's supply, whilst raising £6 billion of revenue to help improve both the NHS and Mental  Heath services. This could reduce the cost of the stuff, making it unviable for criminals to produce and distribute it, let alone controlling the quality of cannibis which is now being produced at far higher strengths than it was. It would also help those that need it for medical reasons.

The truth is that police resources are being wasted by chasing what is a never ending problem, that cannot be overcome without a new approach. Legalisation would also take away any perceived "glamour" and attractiveness of a presently criminal, against the authorities, act that many seem to have (I have myself dealt with many cannibis users and know what goes on in the heads of the young especially). It is a habit which many of the older cannibis users, like acoholics and smokers, would love to lose, so extra funds to the NHS could help their aims without the costs of police time, court services, and prisons. Currently many cannibis users are on on a merry go round of smoking the stuff, being warned / arrested by the police, fined, then back home to smoke it again, with further police action, etc, etc.  The police see this constantly so this cycle must be broken by a new approach to help all. ;)

Let's also recognise that the use of tobacco has fallen dramatically by using a controlled, governmental process since the 1960's, so why not try the same with cannibis.

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I was watching a programme on policing and the attempted control of drugs which ain't working.

It was stated, and I have no way of proving or dis-proving this, that if they legalized cannabis and apply standard rates of sales tax with VAT, no less than £6 billion could be raised.

Just imagine the saving of police time as well!

Just thought this was, if true, a great way of finding more money for the NHS that often has to treat the idiots who smoke the stuff, whilst (perhaps) controlling it's use! 8) :y

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Parental control doesn't exist these days as it's all somebody else that's at fault-how can you make a claim if you admit responsibility for your/your kids actions :D



At 13, you either have common sense or you haven't and the only way you learn about life is to get out and explore and hope it doesnt kill you or anybody else  ;)
Far to old to be tied to mothers apron strings  :)


Needless to say if i'd ended up in that situation and my old man had caught me, i'd have wished i'd have fell off  ;D

Absolutely right :y

Didn't we all climb trees and even a set of rocks?  I did as a girl!! :o :o

So boys will be boys and long may it be so.  That is the way they learn risk.

So often on the OOF members are complaining about the so called "snowflake" generation, but guess what; children are what they have always been when they get out away from the Xboxes!

Only grumpy old men complain about the youngsters of today.  The vast majority are just that, youngsters experimenting with life! :D ;) :y

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General Discussion Area / Re: Sutton bank
« on: 11 May 2018, 12:27:00 »

Looking at the heading . . .

I was thinking NatWest Bank, Barclays Bank, Santander etc etc  . . . . . Sutton ? never heard of it  ::)


I have been wondering myself, so I did a search on "Sutton Vans" that I thought, wrongly, I remembered from childhood, then just "Sutton" to see what came up.

Just look at this gem about transport around Sutton that came up:
http://www.friendsofhoneywood.co.uk/Transport/1950s.htm

It is amazing what a search can do on Google!! :o :o :D :D :y

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General Discussion Area / Re: nice plate for a female member
« on: 10 May 2018, 17:29:12 »
With all these plates it should always be remembered, to avoid failing the MOT or, worse still, incurring a fine of up to £1,000, that your plate should be correctly used as per DVLA regulations, with the proper size, type, and spacing of letters and numbers.

I know some (rich sods) risk all this, but the chances of being pulled for it, especially if you commit another traffic offence, is always there. ;)

I personally cannot see why anyone would want to spend the like of £3,500 for a "special" registration, when there is always better SHOES to spend that kind of money on!

I did, in 1971, actually sell my number plate 1721 JW to someone who was ahead of the game in the then new market of special plates.  He paid me £15, the actual cost of me buying my Austin A40!  Happy days! ;D ;D ;D ;)

fixed.  ::)

Well done Migv6, absolutely right!! ;D ;D ;D ;D :y

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General Discussion Area / Re: Picture hosting sites
« on: 10 May 2018, 14:40:15 »
Right, i've uploaded a bunch of pictures to the site.
Picked one then pressed the share button ................
I now have a list of 8 links  ???
Which one do I copy and paste into the oof box ?

With you now posting a picture in the Test thread I take it all is now well :y :y

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General Discussion Area / Re: nice plate for a female member
« on: 10 May 2018, 13:37:57 »
With all these plates it should always be remembered, to avoid failing the MOT or, worse still, incurring a fine of up to £1,000, that your plate should be correctly used as per DVLA regulations, with the proper size, type, and spacing of letters and numbers.

I know some (rich sods) risk all this, but the chances of being pulled for it, especially if you commit another traffic offence, is always there. ;)

I personally cannot see why anyone would want to spend the like of £3,500 for a "special" registration, when there is always better things to spend that kind of money on!

I did, in 1971, actually sell my number plate 1721 JW to someone who was ahead of the game in the then new market of special plates.  He paid me £15, the actual cost of me buying my Austin A40!  Happy days! ;D ;D ;D ;)

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General Discussion Area / Re: Picture hosting sites
« on: 10 May 2018, 13:28:34 »
I'm no expert on this that's for sure, but Photobucket is not worth using now, even if you are prepared to pay for the privilege.  The site, due to constant advert pop-ups is unusable.

Following the advice of another member I have now registered with the free hosting site Postimage and the rare times I have used it have found it very good ;)

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General Discussion Area / Re: PC gone mad
« on: 07 May 2018, 18:16:06 »
No morality or boundaries?  Of course there is: the society in which the advertising is being conducted in has it's own morality and boundaries.  Try advertising anything that relates to Fascism or racism, let alone anything that belittle's women!  Sales go "up by x10?  Oh, sure! 
 ;)

Lizzie, I must take issue with you on this aspect of what you posted; it isn't always about women, much as the media try to make it so nowadays.
I would urge you to look objectively at the TV adverts in particular which really do belittle men.
I said objectively, and not with your feminist's glasses on!

Also, we have reversed racism to such an extent that it is rare to see an advert without an ethnic in it. How do you spell over-represented?

Ron.
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I was not saying that Ron.  I was making the point, using just three examples, of how an advertiser could damage his business by offending potential customers by straying into those areas with inappropriate advertising campaigns.   The relevance to women though is that for most retailers it is that gender who offer the greatest potential for sales, but upset women and just watch your business fade, with especially the power of social media nowadays doing it's damage.

My point is that there are constraints of morality and boundaries on advertising agencies/manufactures/retailers in what you 'put out there' to promote the business contrary to the statement by Rod, who in any case contradicted himself in the same sentence.  The silent majority of joe public will always make that so in 2018, just like it did in 1968 reflecting current social thinking. To clarify that, I mean what was acceptable in 1968 controlled the media just as what is acceptable now dictates how far any business can go in 2018;)

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General Discussion Area / Re: PC gone mad
« on: 07 May 2018, 12:49:45 »
Seeing how rare good specialists shops are these days especially butchers and green grocers, any retailer that manages to stay open with a slightly different inoffensive advertising and marketing angle in my view is to be applauded. :y

Anybody that has employed, advertising & marketing agencies, I done both, quickly understands there in no morality or boundaries, until the ASA cliups an advertisers wings following a complaint when the standard reply by the company paying for the campaign is: "No offence meant and it was all just a bit of fun" when the ASA makes them modify or withdraw the advert, which due to the extra publicity means their sales have just gone up by x10. UK and European advertising is tame where is the US it is a blood sport where you openly slag off your competitors.


Pardon?! :o :o :o ::)

No morality or boundaries?  Of course there is: the society in which the advertising is being conducted in has it's own morality and boundaries.  Try advertising anything that relates to Fascism or racism, let alone anything that belittle's women!  Sales go "up by x10?  Oh, sure!  The advertising campaign that "was all just a bit of fun" has just upset your core customers; the average member of joe public who hates fascism and racism for what it is, let alone the women who represent the chief shoppers in your business who you have just got very angry with your approach to women, your "most valued customers".

You even reference the ASA which "clips an advertisers wings following a complaint", thus recognising that there ARE indeed "morality and boundaries" when it comes to advertising, with additional legal implications that place constraints on what you can say in public without committing a criminal offence.

 ;)

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General Discussion Area / Re: PC gone mad
« on: 06 May 2018, 19:32:45 »
In retailing you follow a golden rule:  No talk of politics, No talk of religion, and your professionalism should keep you well away from any sexual reference to staff and customers alike. You also do not bring your ills to works, but keep them under a professional cloak.
Small retailers often need themed gimmicks to make themselves stand out, particularly in the digital age

As for the police, if the general public would agree to higher taxes then you could have the level of policing most of us want, and then the recognition that the breaking of the law, at any social level, no matter what the offence is just that; a breach of the law that needs the police, and more importantly, the justice system to deal with all offences seriously. ;)

Like the NHS, it needs a rethink, with shiny arses booted out, and more proper frontline.  But, like most of the civil service, its sadly inherently wasteful at best, corrupt at worse.


I have an awful lot of time for PC Plod, but their seniors need a weed out.

Agree on your last paragraph TB :y

As for small independent traders needing gimmicks, what they should never do is risk offending any of their customer base by such acts.  Offend just 1% of their customers who then stay away with no doubt a spread of poor reviews amongst the local community, and their whole business can collaspe as they are working of such tight margins.

Sexual innuendo is not the way to drive up sales.  It is by giving a first class professional and friendly personal service, with sensible pricing, that will encourage more people to use their business. :y

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General Discussion Area / Re: PC gone mad
« on: 06 May 2018, 18:35:52 »
In retailing you follow a golden rule:  No talk of politics, No talk of religion, and your professionalism should keep you well away from any sexual reference to staff and customers alike. You also do not bring your ills to works, but keep them under a professional cloak.

This is not new, but dates back decades to my knowledge.  So this all is yet another non-news story aimed at stirring the masses, and that is what it is doing on the OOF!! ::) ::)

As for the police, if the general public would agree to higher taxes then you could have the level of policing most of us want, and then the recognition that the breaking of the law, at any social level, no matter what the offence is just that; a breach of the law that needs the police, and more importantly, the justice system to deal with all offences seriously. ;)


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General Discussion Area / Re: What is your Project? Thread
« on: 02 May 2018, 13:05:08 »
Building a wooden model of H.M.S.Victory.It took nearly 2yrs to gather all the bits I figured I'd need and nearly 4yrs from starting the build I've nearly got the hull finished-nearly 3ft from stem to stern post and not including the bowsprit which is not yet installed.


That is my kind of project nowadays, although in my younger times I built many models of ships, trains, planes and historical figures.  My best was the Airfx model of HMS Victory which I fully rigged with my fathers help. 8) ;)

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General Discussion Area / Re: What is your Project? Thread
« on: 02 May 2018, 13:02:32 »
1959 108 DMU is the current big job, lots of welding, fabrication, electrical and engine work to do/done.

Extension finished......well as finished as such things ever get (given the wife now wants blinds in MY man cave!)

Now that is worthwhile project, even on a diesel! 8) 8) :D :y

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