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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Carolina on 28 November 2013, 13:50:32

Title: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: Carolina on 28 November 2013, 13:50:32
Hi Guys,

I have an Omega Estate GLS 02. Someone has tried to steal fuel from the car. On first occasion 2 weeks ago flap was open & cap on the ground, not sure if fuel was taken or not. After that I always checked flap was secured & parked car elsewhere. This morning flap was open again, I know it was secured. So methinks it can be accessed with screwdriver, is that possible as there were no scratch marks? Tank was on red anyway. Would this model have anti-syphoning? If not can I get a locking cap to fit?
Would appreciate advice, thanks
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: Dan282 on 28 November 2013, 13:51:40
The fuel filler cap should lock with the central locking.
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: Carolina on 28 November 2013, 14:07:06
The fuel filler cap should lock with the central locking.


Hi,

The flap locks with the car, but I think someone is managing to open this to access the fuel cap.
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: albitz on 28 November 2013, 14:52:21
Check that the circular plastic part at he back of the flap isn't broken or the hinge mechanism isn't excessively worn.The circular part is there so the rod from the locking motor can engage with it and prevent the flap from opening. My car had a piece broken out of this and the flap use to open even when the car was locked.
Also,if the hinge is worn it can allow the flap to move out of alignment so the rod doesn't got through the hole to engage with the flap,so the flap doesn't lock.
If all looks ok, operate the central lockin with the flep opened,so you can see if the rod from the central locking motor is moving backwards / forwards as it should.
The cars do have an anti syphoning system so it should be difficult (but maybe not impossible) to syphon out the fuel.
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: Andy B on 28 November 2013, 15:28:11
The filler door is only plastic so could easily be forced open. I've tried the syphon fuel from both my Omega & an Astra I had, I was unsuccessful with both cars.
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: LC0112G on 28 November 2013, 15:48:14
The filler door is only plastic so could easily be forced open. I've tried the syphon fuel from both my Omega & an Astra I had, I was unsuccessful with both cars.

Easiest way is to remove/cut the pipe between the fuel pump and fuel filter, disconnect the pump electrics, and run it off a portable 12v source. The pump then empties the tank into your waiting receptical. Probably best to try and avoid too many sparks when connecting the battery to the fuel pump  ;D
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: Andy B on 28 November 2013, 16:25:51
The filler door is only plastic so could easily be forced open. I've tried the syphon fuel from both my Omega & an Astra I had, I was unsuccessful with both cars.

Easiest way is to remove/cut the pipe between the fuel pump and fuel filter, disconnect the pump electrics, and run it off a portable 12v source. The pump then empties the tank into your waiting receptical. Probably best to try and avoid too many sparks when connecting the battery to the fuel pump  ;D

or stuff a screw driver in the bottom of the plastic fuel tank  ;)
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: LC0112G on 28 November 2013, 16:28:22
The filler door is only plastic so could easily be forced open. I've tried the syphon fuel from both my Omega & an Astra I had, I was unsuccessful with both cars.

Easiest way is to remove/cut the pipe between the fuel pump and fuel filter, disconnect the pump electrics, and run it off a portable 12v source. The pump then empties the tank into your waiting receptical. Probably best to try and avoid too many sparks when connecting the battery to the fuel pump  ;D

or stuff a screw driver in the bottom of the plastic fuel tank  ;)

Ok should have said easiest non destrucive way .... :)
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: relluf on 28 November 2013, 17:09:53
When I scrapped my mfl gls I managed to syphon out half a tank of diesel with no issues ,just stuck some piping through the filler cap ,did not seem to have any anti syphon in place!
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: kevinp58 on 28 November 2013, 17:46:07
Not really sure some of the above comments are of help to the OP ;) :-X as she wanted to know if there is a locking cap that will fit the Omega filler to replace the normal one.  :y
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: Shackeng on 28 November 2013, 18:35:16
Hi Guys,

I have an Omega Estate GLS 02. Someone has tried to steal fuel from the car. On first occasion 2 weeks ago flap was open & cap on the ground, not sure if fuel was taken or not. After that I always checked flap was secured & parked car elsewhere. This morning flap was open again, I know it was secured. So methinks it can be accessed with screwdriver, is that possible as there were no scratch marks? Tank was on red anyway. Would this model have anti-syphoning? If not can I get a locking cap to fit?
Would appreciate advice, thanks

I would think Halfords may have one, and if you ask nicely they can fit and demonstrate it for you. :y
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: dad1uk on 28 November 2013, 19:07:23
Hi Guys,

I have an Omega Estate GLS 02. Someone has tried to steal fuel from the car. On first occasion 2 weeks ago flap was open & cap on the ground, not sure if fuel was taken or not. After that I always checked flap was secured & parked car elsewhere. This morning flap was open again, I know it was secured. So methinks it can be accessed with screwdriver, is that possible as there were no scratch marks? Tank was on red anyway. Would this model have anti-syphoning? If not can I get a locking cap to fit?
Would appreciate advice, thanks

I would think Halfords may have one, and if you ask nicely they can fit and demonstrate it for you. :y


At a price ;D ;D
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: omega3000 on 28 November 2013, 20:18:05
Poke a bit of plastic pipe down the filler hole , think you will find its got a steel gauze in the pipe so cannot be siphoned , least it was the last time i tried  :-\  Either that or it has a bend in the pipe  :-\ Close the flap and tape it up an see if its been disturbed , more than one way to catch a thief  >:(
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: blackviper90210 on 28 November 2013, 20:26:02
Poke a bit of plastic pipe down the filler hole , think you will find its got a steel gauze in the pipe so cannot be siphoned , least it was the last time i tried  :-\  Either that or it has a bend in the pipe  :-\ Close the flap and tape it up an see if its been disturbed , more than one way to catch a thief  >:(

Yep, wire the flap up to a mains cable ::)
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: kevinp58 on 28 November 2013, 22:28:22
Poke a bit of plastic pipe down the filler hole , think you will find its got a steel gauze in the pipe so cannot be siphoned , least it was the last time i tried  :-\  Either that or it has a bend in the pipe  :-\ Close the flap and tape it up an see if its been disturbed , more than one way to catch a thief  >:(

Yep, wire the flap up to a mains cable ::)







3 phase at the very least.  :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: terry paget on 28 November 2013, 22:50:13
I always syphon the fuel out of my sick Omegas before I scrap them, and have never encountered any problems. I do not believe there are any anti-syphoning devices on them.
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: zirk on 29 November 2013, 11:04:30
Would this model have anti-syphoning?

Nope.
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: kev2b4 on 29 November 2013, 11:45:36
I syphoned 5 galls from my facelift without any problem recently -- best is 3 phase with 120 amp per phase overloads !
Title: Re: Petrol flap security - petrol theft
Post by: kevinp58 on 29 November 2013, 17:55:15
I syphoned 5 galls from my facelift without any problem recently -- best is 3 phase with 120 amp per phase overloads !










 :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y that should blow then into the next county,  ;D ;D ;D