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[Varche]

What is the point? No one will get prosecuted (or in my view should get prosecuted). We all knew or at least know now that the war was illegal. Only a fool believed the story of WMD.

So we have hours of media coverage and goodness knows what expense to us the taxpayer. To what end?

Only in Britain.   

[Dishevelled Den]

That's a great question V and as such it deserves some thought if only on the   "should get prosecuted" point alone.

Or perhaps;

Why Parliament was misled.

Why the British people were misled.

Why Ministers of the Crown including the Prime Minister appear to have ignored legal opinion.

Why an unelected Director of Media Communications seems to have been at the heart of these matters of national importance.

Why it seems to have been accepted by a select group within the government that they had the right to adopt a strategy founded on their terms and to suit their overall goals.

Why is seemed so easy to get the national media of this country
‘On message’ so that pertinent questions were not asked as to why this action was really necessary.

Finally, for the moment, why should these people who embarked on this disastrous and unnecessary war not be called to question and asked to explain their motivation for causing a situation the effects of which have destroyed, and will continue to destroy, many lives and waste money that could have been put to better use for the benefit of those within this nation.

We have been the streetwalkers of the United States for much too long now.

[Varche]

That's a great question V and as such it deserves some thought if only on the   "should get prosecuted" point alone.

Or perhaps;

Why Parliament was misled.

Why the British people were misled.

Why Ministers of the Crown including the Prime Minister appears to have ignored legal opinion.

Why an unelected Director of Media Communications seems to have been at the heart of these matters of national importance.

Why it seems to have been accepted by a select group within the government that they had the right to adopt a strategy founded on their terms and to suit their overall goals.

Why is seemed so easy to get the national media of this country
‘On message’ so that pertinent questions were not asked as to why this action was really necessary.

Finally, for the moment, why should these people who embarked on this disastrous and unnecessary war not be called to question and asked to explain their motivation for causing a situation the effects of which have destroyed, and will continue to destroy, many lives and waste money that could have been put to better use for the benefit of those within this nation.

We have been the streetwalkers of the United States for much too long now.

Agreed. One advantage of being in the EU (or NATO) is that we should contribute only a JUST amount of manpower and kit to any agreed conflict.

V

[Gaffers]

What is the point? No one will get prosecuted (or in my view should get prosecuted). We all knew or at least know now that the war was illegal. Only a fool believed the story of WMD.

So we have hours of media coverage and goodness knows what expense to us the taxpayer. To what end?

Only in Britain.   

Remember only 20-30% of the population were against the invasion prior to and shortly after the event.  This was thanks to the spin that was applied even to parliment let alone the public.

It was only when things started going wrong that we even cared about the legality.  If the post war plan had been properly resourced then Iran would have had less influence, fewer brits and iraqis would have died and we prob would be less interested in the legality of the invasion.  In fact  I doubt there would even be an enquiry now......

Invasion without a post war strategy is like implementing a computer system without testing...

[cem_devecioglu]

That's a great question V and as such it deserves some thought if only on the   "should get prosecuted" point alone.

Or perhaps;

Why Parliament was misled.

Why the British people were misled.

Why Ministers of the Crown including the Prime Minister appears to have ignored legal opinion.

Why an unelected Director of Media Communications seems to have been at the heart of these matters of national importance.

Why it seems to have been accepted by a select group within the government that they had the right to adopt a strategy founded on their terms and to suit their overall goals.

Why is seemed so easy to get the national media of this country
‘On message’ so that pertinent questions were not asked as to why this action was really necessary.

Finally, for the moment, why should these people who embarked on this disastrous and unnecessary war not be called to question and asked to explain their motivation for causing a situation the effects of which have destroyed, and will continue to destroy, many lives and waste money that could have been put to better use for the benefit of those within this nation.

We have been the streetwalkers of the United States for much too long now.

Very good questions Zulu, as usual

only not agreed in the last statement..

Its been long time I'm watching Brits and most of them wont go after US..  and I must note the answer for your question is: both economical systems are strongly tied together.. So your politicians do what they are forced to do logically   :-/  (may sound contradictory but true)

[Chris_H]

That's a great question V and as such it deserves some thought if only on the   "should get prosecuted" point alone.

Or perhaps;

Why Parliament was misled.

Why the British people were misled.

Why Ministers of the Crown including the Prime Minister appears to have ignored legal opinion.

Why an unelected Director of Media Communications seems to have been at the heart of these matters of national importance.

Why it seems to have been accepted by a select group within the government that they had the right to adopt a strategy founded on their terms and to suit their overall goals.

Why is seemed so easy to get the national media of this country
‘On message’ so that pertinent questions were not asked as to why this action was really necessary.

Finally, for the moment, why should these people who embarked on this disastrous and unnecessary war not be called to question and asked to explain their motivation for causing a situation the effects of which have destroyed, and will continue to destroy, many lives and waste money that could have been put to better use for the benefit of those within this nation.

We have been the streetwalkers of the United States for much too long now.

Dropping bombs on people is a form of communication!

Anyway it looks as if everyone is pointing at Grinning Thing so hopefully he'll be in the doo-doo.  It would be quite nice if he took AC with him to The Hague.

[jerry]

Perhaps the really interesting question is whether TB himself genuinely believed the myth of wmd. Its so hard to judge purely on tv images as the man must have spent decades on the perfection of his "sincerity" face (useless of course for those  cynics who believe nothing that comes out of a politicians mouth but much of the poulation are more easily led). Wars are seldom entered upon for no reason, but that reason can often be different to the one that is sold to the country. Doesnt mean that the real reason is without some merit, just that it may seem less palatable to the voters. In this instance TB cocked up when he started to ignore the growing feeling of the voters and carried on regardless...

[Dishevelled Den]

That's a great question V and as such it deserves some thought if only on the   "should get prosecuted" point alone.

Or perhaps;

Why Parliament was misled.

Why the British people were misled.

Why Ministers of the Crown including the Prime Minister appears to have ignored legal opinion.

Why an unelected Director of Media Communications seems to have been at the heart of these matters of national importance.

Why it seems to have been accepted by a select group within the government that they had the right to adopt a strategy founded on their terms and to suit their overall goals.

Why is seemed so easy to get the national media of this country
‘On message’ so that pertinent questions were not asked as to why this action was really necessary.

Finally, for the moment, why should these people who embarked on this disastrous and unnecessary war not be called to question and asked to explain their motivation for causing a situation the effects of which have destroyed, and will continue to destroy, many lives and waste money that could have been put to better use for the benefit of those within this nation.

We have been the streetwalkers of the United States for much too long now.

Dropping bombs on people is a form of communication!

Anyway it looks as if everyone is pointing at Grinning Thing so hopefully he'll be in the doo-doo.  It would be quite nice if he took AC with him to The Hague.

Dropping bombs on people is a form of communication

  [wry grin] Of the very direct and unequivocal kind Chris.


Grinning Thing -   AC


Aah, the Bonnie and Clyde of the political world deserve that - at the very least

I'll leave the readership to decide which one is Bonnie

[redelitev6]

  and you wonder why no one votes anymore

[albitz]

I would love to see Tony B.liar locked in a cell for the rest of his days for this most cynical catastrophe which cost countless thousands of human lives,it is imo the most disgraceful episode in modern British history.Unfortunately the chances are somewhat less than me winning the lottery this weekend, and I havent bought a lottery ticket for 15 years.

[STMO999]

That's Inquiry.

[jereboam]

That's a great question V and as such it deserves some thought if only on the   "should get prosecuted" point alone.

Or perhaps;

Why Parliament was misled.

Why the British people were misled.

Why Ministers of the Crown including the Prime Minister appear to have ignored legal opinion.

Why an unelected Director of Media Communications seems to have been at the heart of these matters of national importance.

Why it seems to have been accepted by a select group within the government that they had the right to adopt a strategy founded on their terms and to suit their overall goals.
Why is seemed so easy to get the national media of this country
‘On message’ so that pertinent questions were not asked as to why this action was really necessary.

Finally, for the moment, why should these people who embarked on this disastrous and unnecessary war not be called to question and asked to explain their motivation for causing a situation the effects of which have destroyed, and will continue to destroy, many lives and waste money that could have been put to better use for the benefit of those within this nation.

We have been the streetwalkers of the United States for much too long now.

This happens in some way in every area in which this government is involved, which effectively means everything we do in the UK, because everything is micromanaged by the ruling cabal.

Er, when I say "micromanaged", I don't mean "managed", but I don't think the English language has a word for "make a process more complicated through inexpert interference by those in authority". 

Might I propose "brownify"?   

[Dishevelled Den]

That's a great question V and as such it deserves some thought if only on the   "should get prosecuted" point alone.

Or perhaps;

Why Parliament was misled.

Why the British people were misled.

Why Ministers of the Crown including the Prime Minister appear to have ignored legal opinion.

Why an unelected Director of Media Communications seems to have been at the heart of these matters of national importance.

Why it seems to have been accepted by a select group within the government that they had the right to adopt a strategy founded on their terms and to suit their overall goals.
Why is seemed so easy to get the national media of this country
‘On message’ so that pertinent questions were not asked as to why this action was really necessary.

Finally, for the moment, why should these people who embarked on this disastrous and unnecessary war not be called to question and asked to explain their motivation for causing a situation the effects of which have destroyed, and will continue to destroy, many lives and waste money that could have been put to better use for the benefit of those within this nation.

We have been the streetwalkers of the United States for much too long now.

This happens in some way in every area in which this government is involved, which effectively means everything we do in the UK, because everything is micromanaged by the ruling cabal.

Er, when I say "micromanaged", I don't mean "managed", but I don't think the English language has a word for "make a process more complicated through inexpert interference by those in authority". 

Might I propose "brownify"?   

I will gladly second that proposal

[cem_devecioglu]

That's a great question V and as such it deserves some thought if only on the   "should get prosecuted" point alone.

Or perhaps;

Why Parliament was misled.

Why the British people were misled.

Why Ministers of the Crown including the Prime Minister appear to have ignored legal opinion.

Why an unelected Director of Media Communications seems to have been at the heart of these matters of national importance.

Why it seems to have been accepted by a select group within the government that they had the right to adopt a strategy founded on their terms and to suit their overall goals.
Why is seemed so easy to get the national media of this country
‘On message’ so that pertinent questions were not asked as to why this action was really necessary.

Finally, for the moment, why should these people who embarked on this disastrous and unnecessary war not be called to question and asked to explain their motivation for causing a situation the effects of which have destroyed, and will continue to destroy, many lives and waste money that could have been put to better use for the benefit of those within this nation.

We have been the streetwalkers of the United States for much too long now.

This happens in some way in every area in which this government is involved, which effectively means everything we do in the UK, because everything is micromanaged by the ruling cabal.

Er, when I say "micromanaged", I don't mean "managed", but I don't think the English language has a word for "make a process more complicated through inexpert interference by those in authority". 

Might I propose "brownify"?   

 

same applies here also..and we also dont have a suitable word for this either

[Hannah Judes Dad]

Perhaps the really interesting question is whether TB himself genuinely believed the myth of wmd. Its so hard to judge purely on tv images as the man must have spent decades on the perfection of his "sincerity" face (useless of course for those  cynics who believe nothing that comes out of a politicians mouth but much of the poulation are more easily led). Wars are seldom entered upon for no reason, but that reason can often be different to the one that is sold to the country. Doesnt mean that the real reason is without some merit, just that it may seem less palatable to the voters. In this instance TB cocked up when he started to ignore the growing feeling of the voters and carried on regardless...

What's TheBoy accused of now?