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[TheBoy]

Got a piece of steel rod, probably about 4mm (maybe 5mm, I should measure it ), with a 90 degree bend in it.

I need the bend to go the other way (ie, 180 degrees from where it currently goes), am I best off trying to bend on the current bend, or by twisting the rod before the bend?

[Marks DTM Calib]

Get it on the gas hob until red hot and then bend it to where you want it, use a socket extension or similar (to get the required bend radius) in a vice to act as a former for the bend

Do not twist it

[TheBoy]

Get it on the gas hob until red hot and then bend it to where you want it, use a socket extension or similar (to get the required bend radius) in a vice to act as a former for the bend

Do not twist it

I wonder if a halogen hob will ge....    ....nah

Gas torch do it?

[TheBoy]

The bend is tight, so prob doesn't need a former.

Lemme grab a pic.

[TheBoy]

This bit needs to point the other way...

[TheBoy]

Maybe use a screwdriver to form the bend?

[cam.in.head]

i would say its a lot easier to heat and twist the area leading up to the bend than trying to strsighten it and then bend the other way. if you heat it and twist it over a long area theres less chance of snapping it.
if the side is actually long enough you may even manage it without any heat at all hence no damage.

[Marks DTM Calib]

It absolutley will need heat 

Twist is never a great approach on a thin item as it thins out the section which is twisted and extends the length 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Get it on the gas hob until red hot and then bend it to where you want it, use a socket extension or similar (to get the required bend radius) in a vice to act as a former for the bend

Do not twist it

I wonder if a halogen hob will ge....    ....nah

Gas torch do it?

It should do

[YZ250]

I assume something on the other end (bracing etc) prevents you from flipping it around or modding the other end. The bend will need heat as otherwise it will fatigue the steel at the bend.

[TheBoy]

I assume something on the other end (bracing etc) prevents you from flipping it around or modding the other end. The bend will need heat as otherwise it will fatigue the steel at the bend.

Yup.  Though you have given me another potential idea, I'll go get the ruler out....

[Raeturbo]

I knew a circus strongman who could bend a 6mm steel rod over his cock, he was telling me the other day that he can’t do it anymore as his wrists have gone👀….

[STEMO]

I knew a circus strongman who could bend a 6mm steel rod over his cock, he was telling me the other day that he can’t do it anymore as his wrists have gone👀….

[Sir Tigger KC]

I knew a circus strongman who could bend a 6mm steel rod over his cock, he was telling me the other day that he can’t do it anymore as his wrists have gone👀….

Gone where? 

[Raeturbo]

Limp

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

He could still try finding work as a Larry Grayson tribute act. 

[STEMO]

He could still try finding work as a Larry Grayson tribute act. 

There are plenty of those about.

[Andy B]

This bit needs to point the other way... ....

Cut it off & re-weld it the other way .... 

[Andy B]

.....

Do not twist it

Depends on how long the rod is. If over an inch or so, then no, but if it was over a foot or so .... 

[Andy H]

This bit needs to point the other way... ....

Cut it off & re-weld it the other way .... 

In all seriousness this is more likely to produce something usable.

Better still - start with a clean/straight piece of bar

[Nick W]

This bit needs to point the other way... ....

Cut it off & re-weld it the other way .... 

In all seriousness this is more likely to produce something usable.

Better still - start with a clean/straight piece of bar

Those were going to be my suggestions. Once you've got a 90° bend in bar, it's very difficult to rebend it satisfactorily. And that is such a short piece, how would you hold it?


Making a new one would probably be quicker too.

[YZ250]

I assume something on the other end (bracing etc) prevents you from flipping it around or modding the other end. The bend will need heat as otherwise it will fatigue the steel at the bend.

Yup.  Though you have given me another potential idea, I'll go get the ruler out....

I was thinking along the lines of, if it’s braced on the other end, cut through the bracing, flip it over and re-weld. Or, cut the straight piece, flip it around and sleeve the join and then weld, or just butt weld a single joint. That way you can maintain the exact bend, the exact length etc. 

[Doctor Gollum]

What is it and what does it do?

What is on the other end?

Can it be removed, reoriented and refitted to achieve the desired result?

[TheBoy]

reoriented and refitted to achieve the desired result?

No, hence I need to modify that end.  As that would be less work that turning the whole thing round and modifying both ends

[TheBoy]

.....

Do not twist it

Depends on how long the rod is. If over an inch or so, then no, but if it was over a foot or so .... 

About 5"

[Raeturbo]

 Buy a new whatever it is and save yourself the headache.👍👍😎

[TheBoy]

Buy a new whatever it is and save yourself the headache.👍👍😎

That is brand new, and the nearest I can get to fit.  Hence the need to modify it

[Doctor Gollum]

Without knowing what it is and what it does we're guessing somewhat.

Clearly if it is being used as intended and designed but mismanufactured, then it needs to go back. End of debate.

However, if you are adapting something from its original application then more detail is required. Unless it is a surprise. Or a secret. 

[STEMO]

Heat it, bend it, stop being a fanny and get it done 

[zirk]

I reckon the minute you put that on a Gas Hob the Ruler is just going to melt.

[biggriffin]

I reckon the minute you put that on a Gas Hob the Ruler is just going to melt.

Mmm TB+Gas+flame=💥. Not again

[Andy B]

I reckon the minute you put that on a Gas Hob the Ruler is just going to melt.

Mmm TB+Gas+flame=💥. Not again

[TheBoy]

Turns out that it wasn't painted, but some sort of coating. Oops.

But bent, touched up, fitted to the car 

[Sir Tigger KC]

So c'mon then, what was it and what is it now?   

[STEMO]

I'm guessing a cargo net, since that was mentioned in 'What have you done......." earlier.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm guessing a cargo net, since that was mentioned in 'What have you done......." earlier.

Ah, didn't spot that. 

I think we need the full story though... 

[TheBoy]

As STEMO says, a small cargo net for the sides of the boot.  Only the manufacturer only makes them for the nearside, and she wanted one on the offside as well.

https://accessories.jaguar.com/gl/en/xe/interior/interior-protection/t4n7499-loadspace-side-net/#tertiary-tabs

[Doctor Gollum]

I wonder if they offer one for the nearside, just not against that reg/chassis number.

It’s the sort of stuff that gets added as an 'improvement' over the previous model/lower specs.

[Doctor Gollum]

As STEMO says, a small cargo net for the sides of the boot.  Only the manufacturer only makes them for the nearside, and she wanted one on the offside as well.

https://accessories.jaguar.com/gl/en/xe/interior/interior-protection/t4n7499-loadspace-side-net/#tertiary-tabs

For example 

[STEMO]

As STEMO says, a small cargo net for the sides of the boot.  Only the manufacturer only makes them for the nearside, and she wanted one on the offside as well.

https://accessories.jaguar.com/gl/en/xe/interior/interior-protection/t4n7499-loadspace-side-net/#tertiary-tabs

For example 

What are you on about?

[Doctor Gollum]

Apparently unavailable boot net for the off side of a Jaguar XE.

Obviously. The link is pretty self explanatory 

[STEMO]

The link looks like the same link Jaime posted to me. Same part number, same picture.

[Doctor Gollum]

The link looks like the same link Jaime posted to me. Same part number, same picture.

Well there you go. Probably because it is the same link taken out of his post. 

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-T4N7499 is what I meant to post...

It's for the offside, which is the one he was trying to 'make' unless he's gone and got nearside and off side confused.

[STEMO]

The link looks like the same link Jaime posted to me. Same part number, same picture.

Well there you go. Probably because it is the same link taken out of his post. 

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-T4N7499 is what I meant to post...

It's for the offside, which is the one he was trying to 'make' unless he's gone and got nearside and off side confused.

Not so self explanatory then 

[STEMO]

The link looks like the same link Jaime posted to me. Same part number, same picture.

Well there you go. Probably because it is the same link taken out of his post. 

https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-T4N7499 is what I meant to post...

It's for the offside, which is the one he was trying to 'make' unless he's gone and got nearside and off side confused.

Not so self explanatory then 

And....not so sure about your second link. Same part number, same picture.

[Doctor Gollum]

And it's still the offside one.

[STEMO]

And it's still the offside one.

All the links are for the offside one 

[Doctor Gollum]

And it's still the offside one.

All the links are for the offside one 

Exactly.

That's the one TB suggested that he required, hence being confused by the need to modify one 

Of course, had he said what it was for when he first asked about bending it, then this would be a moot point.

[TheBoy]

Its a library picture.  That PN is only for NS.

IME with JLR side cargo nets, they are normally sold as a matching pair. I guess due to how the boot trim goes, due to a bundle of electrics behind it, they deem it not worthwhile?  The NS one on EPC specifically says for cars without amps, probably for same reason.


I wouldn't be without them, perfect for little trinkets we all carry.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I think Mrs TB is a very lucky woman! 

Afterall, duct taping an old cornflake box to the o/s of the boot would have done the same job. 

[Doctor Gollum]

Its a library picture.  That PN is only for NS.

IME with JLR side cargo nets, they are normally sold as a matching pair. I guess due to how the boot trim goes, due to a bundle of electrics behind it, they deem it not worthwhile?  The NS one on EPC specifically says for cars without amps, probably for same reason.


I wouldn't be without them, perfect for little trinkets we all carry.

That makes much more sense 

[Nick W]

I think Mrs TB is a very lucky woman! 

Afterall, duct taping an old cornflake box to the o/s of the boot would have done the same job. 

Using some stick-on velcro to attach a box to the boot carpet would actually work.

[TheBoy]

I think Mrs TB is a very lucky woman! 

You're right, she is a bloody lucky woman...

[TheBoy]

I think Mrs TB is a very lucky woman! 

Afterall, duct taping an old cornflake box to the o/s of the boot would have done the same job. 

Using some stick-on velcro to attach a box to the boot carpet would actually work.

Not around the lanes

[Raeturbo]

With you driving 😂

[Kevin Wood]

I think Mrs TB is a very lucky woman! 

Afterall, duct taping an old cornflake box to the o/s of the boot would have done the same job. 

Using some stick-on velcro to attach a box to the boot carpet would actually work.

Not around the lanes

An XE does deserve some "enthusiastic" driving round the lanes.

[Raeturbo]

I think Mrs TB is a very lucky woman! 

Afterall, duct taping an old cornflake box to the o/s of the boot would have done the same job. 

Using some stick-on velcro to attach a box to the boot carpet would actually work.

Not around the lanes

An XE does deserve some "enthusiastic" driving round the lanes.

[Raeturbo]

As did the old red top XE👍👍

[Marks DTM Calib]

Its a library picture.  That PN is only for NS.

IME with JLR side cargo nets, they are normally sold as a matching pair. I guess due to how the boot trim goes, due to a bundle of electrics behind it, they deem it not worthwhile?  The NS one on EPC specifically says for cars without amps, probably for same reason.


I wouldn't be without them, perfect for little trinkets we all carry.

The amp (Meridian system) sits below the floor in the left side in the recess where the tail lights etc are, so the floor sits a bit higher in that area 

[TheBoy]

I think Mrs TB is a very lucky woman! 

Afterall, duct taping an old cornflake box to the o/s of the boot would have done the same job. 

Using some stick-on velcro to attach a box to the boot carpet would actually work.

Not around the lanes

An XE does deserve some "enthusiastic" driving round the lanes.

Damn right, its a hoot in the twisties, even in her under powered version.  Still, a mere 163bhp means you have to no slow down for the bends 

[YZ250]

……
An XE does deserve some "enthusiastic" driving round the lanes.

Damn right, its a hoot in the twisties, even in her under powered version.  Still, a mere 163bhp means you have to no slow down for the bends 

See, this is where we differ. You are still hooning around like a teenager whereas I am genuinely remorseful and haven’t driven at speed since …….. well …… Monday as it happens, but that’s not the point. 

[Nick W]

Not around the lanes

An XE does deserve some "enthusiastic" driving round the lanes.

Damn right, its a hoot in the twisties, even in her under powered version.  Still, a mere 163bhp means you have to no slow down for the bends 

That would need about 100bhp less to qualify for 'mere.'
And you can still get held up in the bends by far more powerful cars when you've only got 60bhp going through a Borg-Warner35.....

[Kevin Wood]

……
An XE does deserve some "enthusiastic" driving round the lanes.

Damn right, its a hoot in the twisties, even in her under powered version.  Still, a mere 163bhp means you have to no slow down for the bends 

See, this is where we differ. You are still hooning around like a teenager whereas I am genuinely remorseful and haven’t driven at speed since …….. well …… Monday as it happens, but that’s not the point. 

You don't necessarily have to drive at speed to enjoy twisties. 


The bit where you have to drive at speed is to get past all the utter, utter dullards who driver everywhere at 35 MPH whether it be dark, light, rain, dry, past a school, on black ice.

[Raeturbo]

You don't necessarily have to drive at speed to enjoy twisties.   


👀👀👀😱😱😱😱😱😱🤣

[Kevin Wood]

You don't necessarily have to drive at speed to enjoy twisties.   


👀👀👀😱😱😱😱😱😱🤣

.. but if you do, you enjoy it more.

[Raeturbo]

 

[YZ250]

……
An XE does deserve some "enthusiastic" driving round the lanes.

Damn right, its a hoot in the twisties, even in her under powered version.  Still, a mere 163bhp means you have to no slow down for the bends 

See, this is where we differ. You are still hooning around like a teenager whereas I am genuinely remorseful and haven’t driven at speed since …….. well …… Monday as it happens, but that’s not the point. 

You don't necessarily have to drive at speed to enjoy twisties. 


The bit where you have to drive at speed is to get past all the utter, utter dullards who driver everywhere at 35 MPH whether it be dark, light, rain, dry, past a school, on black ice.

I agree about the drivers that are oblivious to their speed. You follow them thinking that they are nervous/cautious, only for them to continue at the same speed through a built up area. 

[STEMO]

……
An XE does deserve some "enthusiastic" driving round the lanes.

Damn right, its a hoot in the twisties, even in her under powered version.  Still, a mere 163bhp means you have to no slow down for the bends 

See, this is where we differ. You are still hooning around like a teenager whereas I am genuinely remorseful and haven’t driven at speed since …….. well …… Monday as it happens, but that’s not the point. 

You don't necessarily have to drive at speed to enjoy twisties. 


The bit where you have to drive at speed is to get past all the utter, utter dullards who driver everywhere at 35 MPH whether it be dark, light, rain, dry, past a school, on black ice.

I agree about the drivers that are oblivious to their speed. You follow them thinking that they are nervous/cautious, only for them to continue at the same speed through a built up area. 

Yep, they're everywhere. 40mph in a 50, then 40mph in a 30. Bastards.

[TheBoy]

……
An XE does deserve some "enthusiastic" driving round the lanes.

Damn right, its a hoot in the twisties, even in her under powered version.  Still, a mere 163bhp means you have to no slow down for the bends 

See, this is where we differ. You are still hooning around like a teenager whereas I am genuinely remorseful and haven’t driven at speed since …….. well …… Monday as it happens, but that’s not the point. 

No, I am a reformed character, honest, officer.  I felt my 4 hours of patronisation was the best value course I have ever attended at nigh on £100, plus £4 for each coffee.  What more boredom could I ask for?

[TheBoy]

In these parts, the morons drive at 15mph below the limit, and do all they can to ensure others do.

Which soon becomes dangerous, as drivers get frustrated and attempt more risky over takes, or lots of undertakes on dual carriageways.

[STEMO]

In these parts, the morons drive at 15mph below the limit, and do all they can to ensure others do.

Which soon becomes dangerous, as drivers get frustrated and attempt more risky over takes, or lots of undertakes on dual carriageways.

Then they send the dash cam vids to the advertised address and you get a NIP through the door. Entrapment.

[TheBoy]

In these parts, the morons drive at 15mph below the limit, and do all they can to ensure others do.

Which soon becomes dangerous, as drivers get frustrated and attempt more risky over takes, or lots of undertakes on dual carriageways.

Then they send the dash cam vids to the advertised address and you get a NIP through the door. Entrapment.

Probably.  But being a reformed character, I don't rise to it.


But, yes, the old bill need to grow a pair and class driving excessively slowly is dangerous, and start enforcing the lane hogging rule, before the public lose any remaining faith in them

[Raeturbo]

In these parts, the morons drive at 15mph below the limit, and do all they can to ensure others do.

Which soon becomes dangerous, as drivers get frustrated and attempt more risky over takes, or lots of undertakes on dual carriageways.

                And that’s more dangerous than speeding. Makes you wonder what’s happened to the world.