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[mantaray]

I have a set of air adjustable rear shocks from my old Carlton, and was wondering if they could be fitted to my Omega. Are Carlton and Omega rear shocks the same?

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Check on Opelpartsbase. No idea if they're the same, and no idea if there'll be a tirade of people saying you're an idiot for trying to fit shocks from another car and the like... In the case of these shocks I'd be tempted to say, given them being adjustable in their very design and nature, the compatibility would be closer the mark.

However, thinking laterally... If I were you I would actually sell them to a Senator owner, as these are really hard to get hold of for Senny owners - If they're in decent nick; then use the money to fund sourcing genuine Omega ones.

[LC0112G]

Check on Opelpartsbase. No idea if they're the same, and no idea if there'll be a tirade of people saying you're an idiot for trying to fit shocks from another car and the like... In the case of these shocks I'd be tempted to say, given them being adjustable in their very design and nature, the compatibility would be closer the mark.

However, thinking laterally... If I were you I would actually sell them to a Senator owner, as these are really hard to get hold of for Senny owners - If they're in decent nick; then use the money to fund sourcing genuine Omega ones.

^^^Agree.

Plenty of people fitting Omega B shocks to Lotus Carltons, so no reason why poverty spec  Carlton shocks won't physically fit an Omega.

However, Omega shocks are a different part number to Carlton ones, so the damping rates may be different.

[Diamond Black Geezer]

 


i love how your perception of a 'poverty spec' Carlton is anything less than an LC 

Then again, I do judge a car on whether it's worth owning by the answer to the following question-

Does it have a rear blind and 6 cylinders? 

[biggriffin]

They should fit, gm are notorious for changing part numbers for newer models and using a part from an older model.

[chrisgixer]

 I once asked a member on abs about the adjustable shocks on the lotus Carlton. He said they where no longer made, and that the lc uses omega sl shocks now anyway.

No idea if lc Carlton has the same fittings as on the normal Carlton.

[LC0112G]

I once asked a member on abs about the adjustable shocks on the lotus Carlton. He said they where no longer made, and that the lc uses omega sl shocks now anyway.

True. There is a physical difference with the genuine LC shock - the bottom rubber bush is much larger - perhaps double the size. But, if you can't get genuine LC spec shox, then beggars can't be choosers.

No idea if lc Carlton has the same fittings as on the normal Carlton.

They are. LC trailing arms are the same as Standard GSi, and the same as Omega B. The LC shell is a modified GSi shell, but no mods around the rear shock top mount. Shock top mount and lower bolt same as Carlton and Omega B. So as far as rear shock geometry goes, LC=Carlton=Senator=Omega B. The only difference is that the LC has longer rear track rod adjusters than GSi, and so the pick up points are also moved further inboard on the rear subframe. 

[Diamond Black Geezer]

in which case the OP has some potentially rare and sought after shocks - I'd sell them (so long as you can confirm they're not identical to the OMega B ones, at any rate ) 

[Andy B]

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However, thinking laterally... If I were you I would actually sell them to a Senator owner, as these are really hard to get hold of for Senny owners - If they're in decent nick; then use the money to fund sourcing genuine Omega ones.

Were they ever fitted to a Senator? I'm pretty sure they weren't. Senny's were fitted with either bog standard shockers or 'Ride Control' electrically controlled shockers that gave you the choice of comfort, normal or sport.

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Ahh, assumed thats what these were, didnt know there was a difference. Not massive carlton/senny expert. Either way, must be rare, and hope these go to good use wherever they end up 

[Mr Gav]

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However, thinking laterally... If I were you I would actually sell them to a Senator owner, as these are really hard to get hold of for Senny owners - If they're in decent nick; then use the money to fund sourcing genuine Omega ones.

Were they ever fitted to a Senator? I'm pretty sure they weren't. Senny's were fitted with either bog standard shockers or 'Ride Control' electrically controlled shockers that gave you the choice of comfort, normal or sport.

Totally agree there Andy, you would need all the wiring for the ride control dampers and the switch below the headlight switch

[chrisgixer]

http://kleinanzeigen.ebay.de/anzeigen/s-anzeige/opel-senator-omega-fahrwerk-elektrisch-stossdaempfer-ride-control/325545100-223-3959?ref=search

[LC0112G]

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However, thinking laterally... If I were you I would actually sell them to a Senator owner, as these are really hard to get hold of for Senny owners - If they're in decent nick; then use the money to fund sourcing genuine Omega ones.

Were they ever fitted to a Senator? I'm pretty sure they weren't. Senny's were fitted with either bog standard shockers or 'Ride Control' electrically controlled shockers that gave you the choice of comfort, normal or sport.

EPC shows both Automatic and Manual Self levelling as an option on both Carly and Senny, although I agree it seems it was a very rare option - I've never (knowingly) seen a Saloon Carly/Senny with Auto Levelling but I am assured that a few existed. Manual self levelling was a fairly common option on Carlton Estates and I have seen a couple of saloon manual levellers too.

[Andy B]

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However, thinking laterally... If I were you I would actually sell them to a Senator owner, as these are really hard to get hold of for Senny owners - If they're in decent nick; then use the money to fund sourcing genuine Omega ones.

Were they ever fitted to a Senator? I'm pretty sure they weren't. Senny's were fitted with either bog standard shockers or 'Ride Control' electrically controlled shockers that gave you the choice of comfort, normal or sport.

EPC shows both Automatic and Manual Self levelling as an option on both Carly and Senny, although I agree it seems it was a very rare option - I've never (knowingly) seen a Saloon Carly/Senny with Auto Levelling but I am assured that a few existed. Manual self levelling was a fairly common option on Carlton Estates and I have seen a couple of saloon manual levellers too.

I had auto/self levelling on my facelift MKI 2.2 Carlton ..... apparently very rare, as were the ABS & heated seats 

[Keith ABS]

24v Carlton Diamond estates had the auto self levelling with the pump mounted under the n/s front wing. Had two of them, exellent cars

Keith B