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[btc]

Question for all the jag owners are they any good xf or xe

thanksBrian

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

XF is a good cat. The XE is slightly smaller and handles like a dream.

[btc]

why do modern cars have so many cifferent engines Jag xf has 2.0 d 2.2d 30d like the look of the xf
This will be the first car i have bought in 10 years always leased until noe

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

why do modern cars have so many cifferent engines Jag xf has 2.0 d 2.2d 30d like the look of the xf
This will be the first car i have bought in 10 years always leased until noe

I have owned 3 Jags and all were petrol including an X-Type Mondeo 3.0SE auto V6, which was utter crap

The other 2 were great with very few problems except for the central locking/mirror folding systems.

[btc]

I have been looking at this
https://www.evanshalshaw.com/search/details/jaguar/xf/automatic-diesel-black-saloon-fg15tvp/
Can't find any petrols

[Sir Tigger KC]

Nice! 

They could have cleaned it properly....     NSR quarter looks dirty in Pic 8 or maybe scruffy? 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I have been looking at this
https://www.evanshalshaw.com/search/details/jaguar/xf/automatic-diesel-black-saloon-fg15tvp/
Can't find any petrols

Ultimate black like my first XFR.

The X250 XF is a weighty lad and I'm not convinced a 163 BHP 2.2 derv lump is enough to push it along.

[TheBoy]

Got a 3l soot chucker X351 XJ Portfolio and a 2l soot chucker XE in base spec, including a manual gearbox.

Happy with both of them.  XE is obviously more fun to drive, although both handle incredibly well.

I did nick one of joshwyatts XF's (X250 model) for a day as well, a lovely car to drive, despite the A/C not working on that example on a really hot day.


I seem to recall the 2.2 diesel isn't that great, both in power and in getting anywhere near its claimed economy - I'm sure that DTM fella will be able to comment more.  Not sure when the 2.0l came in on the XF, might have been with X260, which again I'm sure DTM can confirm.  The Ingenium 2.0l diesel is a far better option, even more so if its already had its chains replaced - early ones suffer chain failure, maybe due to stupid long oil change intervals?

DIY work on Jags isn't always the easiest due to lack of good information resources - "take it to a dealer" is the common response on many UK based Jag forums.  That said, the cars are mostly well enough designed and bolted together in such a way to do most jobs, but just occasionally you have to question WTF that useless idiot Cullum was smoking.

Dealer parts can prove pricey, but shares many service and engine parts with Landrover, who's prices are cheaper (but they are in the process of aligning the partnumbers and prices), plus there are more Landrover part specialists out there.

[btc]

Thanks TB i dont do my own repairs due to bad health/disability i have been reading up and the 2.0d seems to be recomended
Brian

[Doctor Gollum]

Thanks TB i dont do my own repairs due to bad health/disability i have been reading up and the 2.0d seems to be recomended
Brian

In which case the Jag may not be the best option.

[btc]

Thanks TB i dont do my own repairs due to bad health/disability i have been reading up and the 2.0d seems to be recomended
Brian

In which case the Jag may not be the best option.

Any car I buy will need to be serviced and repaired when needed

[Doctor Gollum]

Thanks TB i dont do my own repairs due to bad health/disability i have been reading up and the 2.0d seems to be recomended
Brian

In which case the Jag may not be the best option.

Any car I buy will need to be serviced and repaired when needed

Not suggesting otherwise, just that something else may need less repairing or be cheaper to fix.

For that example you linked to to be worthy of consideration, it would need to be significantly cheaper.

[btc]

Thankls that was just the first one i found as i  said in the first post this is the firtst time i have not leased a vr for 10- years so any other recomedation welcome
Brian

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

My last Jaguar XF..... A 2015 Jaguar XFR.

She is now gone. :'

[TheBoy]

Thanks TB i dont do my own repairs due to bad health/disability i have been reading up and the 2.0d seems to be recomended
Brian

In which case the Jag may not be the best option.

Any car I buy will need to be serviced and repaired when needed

Not suggesting otherwise, just that something else may need less repairing or be cheaper to fix.

For that example you linked to to be worthy of consideration, it would need to be significantly cheaper.

Like anywhere, avoid main dealers, and repairs are quite reasonable.

As some examples where CBA has stopped me doing stuff myself on the XJ:
Rear wheel bearing - £125 fitted
Alternator - £350 fitted

Oil for later Jags is horrifically expensive, but that is not unique to the marque, thats just modern low ash oils.  For the XJ its about £50 for 20l, for the newer Ingenium engined one, its about £70 for 20l

Common issues with all JLR products:
Central door locking motors start to fail at 7-10yrs.  Part is about £140 from dealer or £30 from egay (but I'd always recommend buying the genuine part for this, from experience), and about 60-90mins to fit.

Ageing battery (or low battery) tends to send off a multitude of electrical glitches that all go away when the battery is charged.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Thanks TB i dont do my own repairs due to bad health/disability i have been reading up and the 2.0d seems to be recomended
Brian

In which case the Jag may not be the best option.

Any car I buy will need to be serviced and repaired when needed

Not suggesting otherwise, just that something else may need less repairing or be cheaper to fix.

For that example you linked to to be worthy of consideration, it would need to be significantly cheaper.

Like anywhere, avoid main dealers, and repairs are quite reasonable.

As some examples where CBA has stopped me doing stuff myself on the XJ:
Rear wheel bearing - £125 fitted
Alternator - £350 fitted

Oil for later Jags is horrifically expensive, but that is not unique to the marque, thats just modern low ash oils.  For the XJ its about £50 for 20l, for the newer Ingenium engined one, its about £70 for 20l

Common issues with all JLR products:
Central door locking motors start to fail at 7-10yrs.  Part is about £140 from dealer or £30 from egay (but I'd always recommend buying the genuine part for this, from experience), and about 60-90mins to fit.

Ageing battery (or low battery) tends to send off a multitude of electrical glitches that all go away when the battery is charged.

My Mondeo X-Type was thus afflicted.

Great traction though as it was 4 wheel drive. 240 BHP if memory serves.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Got a 3l soot chucker X351 XJ Portfolio and a 2l soot chucker XE in base spec, including a manual gearbox.

Happy with both of them.  XE is obviously more fun to drive, although both handle incredibly well.

I did nick one of joshwyatts XF's (X250 model) for a day as well, a lovely car to drive, despite the A/C not working on that example on a really hot day.


I seem to recall the 2.2 diesel isn't that great, both in power and in getting anywhere near its claimed economy - I'm sure that DTM fella will be able to comment more.  Not sure when the 2.0l came in on the XF, might have been with X260, which again I'm sure DTM can confirm.  The Ingenium 2.0l diesel is a far better option, even more so if its already had its chains replaced - early ones suffer chain failure, maybe due to stupid long oil change intervals?

DIY work on Jags isn't always the easiest due to lack of good information resources - "take it to a dealer" is the common response on many UK based Jag forums.  That said, the cars are mostly well enough designed and bolted together in such a way to do most jobs, but just occasionally you have to question WTF that useless idiot Cullum was smoking.

Dealer parts can prove pricey, but shares many service and engine parts with Landrover, who's prices are cheaper (but they are in the process of aligning the partnumbers and prices), plus there are more Landrover part specialists out there.

Always considered  this a fine looking large saloon even if it has an arse taken straight from a 17 stone black woman.

[btc]

Prices of jags are all over the place found a 2.0d manuel 2k less than the auto

[Doctor Gollum]

Prices of jags are all over the place found a 2.0d manuel 2k less than the auto

Presumably because the manual has a DMF that WILL fail, assuming that it hasn't already...

Also, not sure that diesel is a cost effective choice.

[TheBoy]

Prices of jags are all over the place found a 2.0d manuel 2k less than the auto

Nobody wants a manual Jag, except those trying to reduce company car tax.

[TheBoy]

Presumably because the manual has a DMF that WILL fail, assuming that it hasn't already...

Not heard it being an issue, though there aren't many modern manuals around.

Ours is 114k, no signs of trouble yet

[btc]

That was the first and only manuel i found i need an auto because of my dodgy leg

[btc]

Thoughts on this one please i dont know if it expensive or about right

https://www.evanshalshaw.com/search/details/jaguar/xe/automatic-diesel-silver-saloon-oe15xao/

[Doctor Gollum]

I fell asleep looking at that one 

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202211011285541

Throw a couple of grand at it and enjoy it.

[Doctor Gollum]

Seriously though, what are your criteria, because there's a world of difference between an XE and XF...

[btc]

Just comfort and relaxed distance driving but must be auto

[Doctor Gollum]

Just comfort and relaxed distance driving but must be auto

217,382 autos currently listed on Auttrader.

Just looking at Jaaags? Any preference on fuel?

[Doctor Gollum]

I just found my dream car... Search for yours https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202209250095024?advertising-location=at_cars&atmobcid=soc5&fuel-type=Petrol&include-delivery-option=on&make=Jaguar&model=XF&sort=relevance&transmission=Automatic

[btc]

No preferance on fuel started looking at jags as that was the first thing that came up on search and they seem better value than merc/bmw

[btc]

I just found my dream car... Search for yours https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202209250095024?advertising-location=at_cars&atmobcid=soc5&fuel-type=Petrol&include-delivery-option=on&make=Jaguar&model=XF&sort=relevance&transmission=Automatic

Nice but too old

[Doctor Gollum]

I just found my dream car... Search for yours https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202209250095024?advertising-location=at_cars&atmobcid=soc5&fuel-type=Petrol&include-delivery-option=on&make=Jaguar&model=XF&sort=relevance&transmission=Automatic

Nice but too old

Older means better value. If you're looking at £10,000 cars, then you may as well enjoy it. 

Or buy something bombproof...

I just found my dream car... Search for yours https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207017362446?advertising-location=at_cars&atmobcid=soc5&fuel-type=Petrol&include-delivery-option=on&make=Toyota&model=Camry&percentVehiclePriceDeposit=true&sort=relevance&transmission=Automatic

Also ticks various boxes and should help mitigate the shock/reality of having to pay for repairs.

[btc]

wwd had one of them years ago boring as s--- but reliable old busses

[TheBoy]

I'd guess that mobility issues might make older cars uneconomical.

[btc]

Yes whatever i buy will have to be look after by a garage hence looking for something as new as my budget allows normally i lease cars with service included but there is nothing that is any use because of the current climate

[Doctor Gollum]

I'd guess that mobility issues might make older cars uneconomical.

That makes zero sense. Unless you mean for DIY... But that's already been ruled out.

A nice 10-20 year old car is going to be at least as reliable and comfortable as any nearly new car and for a fraction of the price.

[Andy B]

Prices of jags are all over the place found a 2.0d manuel 2k less than the auto

Nobody wants a manual Jag, except those trying to reduce company car tax.

exactly!

2 feet ... 2 pedals 

[TheBoy]

I'd guess that mobility issues might make older cars uneconomical.

That makes zero sense. Unless you mean for DIY... But that's already been ruled out.

A nice 10-20 year old car is going to be at least as reliable and comfortable as any nearly new car and for a fraction of the price.

An older car is going to need more love and care to keep it reliable and roadworthy, which is uneconomical if you are less able/willing to DIY it.  And we all know if you don't keep on top of the jobs that need doing, they can quickly get to a stage where you have to consider the financial viability of recovering from that situation...  ...although I am a pupil of the "better the devil you know" school.

[btc]

Thanks for all the advice think i am going to try and do a deal on the xe
Brian

[Doctor Gollum]

I'd guess that mobility issues might make older cars uneconomical.

That makes zero sense. Unless you mean for DIY... But that's already been ruled out.

A nice 10-20 year old car is going to be at least as reliable and comfortable as any nearly new car and for a fraction of the price.

An older car is going to need more love and care to keep it reliable and roadworthy, which is uneconomical if you are less able/willing to DIY it.  And we all know if you don't keep on top of the jobs that need doing, they can quickly get to a stage where you have to consider the financial viability of recovering from that situation...  ...although I am a pupil of the "better the devil you know" school.

I would counter that with the fact that newer cars are significantly less reliable/long lived than previous models.

[Doctor Gollum]

Thanks for all the advice think i am going to try and do a deal on the xe
Brian

Good luck, but you won't be getting one. They will have overpaid for it, and will be unlikely to let it go at a loss.

Also bear in mind that used values are starting to drop again, so there will be better options around in a couple of months if you can afford to wait.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Thoughts on this one please i dont know if it expensive or about right

https://www.evanshalshaw.com/search/details/jaguar/xe/automatic-diesel-silver-saloon-oe15xao/

It's derv.

[btc]

I need the car at the end of the month so can't really put it off for long unless i can borrow something

[Doctor Gollum]

Buy what you have the cash for now and wait if you want to upgrade.

[Raeturbo]

Or buy something cheap enough to scrap if it fails, then buy another until something nice turns up🚡

[Sir Tigger KC]

Or just buy a Jag if you want one and ignore these miserable buggers! 

[Rangie]

If you're set on a Jag find the best you can not worth messing about with anything else.