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« Reply #30 on: 23 January 2016, 19:31:04 »

Well I hope they do Saturdays or it's three points for me.

Go on the website and it`ll tell you all the available venues and days, pretty sure Saturdays are covered.
It'll be a while, yet, Gav, haven't even sent the form back to say I was driving yet. It came in the wife's name as the car is registered to her. At least I know the dealer sent the V5 off pretty quick.
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« Reply #31 on: 24 January 2016, 05:39:31 »

Well I hope they do Saturdays or it's three points for me.

Go on the website and it`ll tell you all the available venues and days, pretty sure Saturdays are covered.
It'll be a while, yet, Gav, haven't even sent the form back to say I was driving yet. It came in the wife's name as the car is registered to her. At least I know the dealer sent the V5 off pretty quick.
Probably done online :-\
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« Reply #32 on: 24 January 2016, 15:17:04 »

Well I hope they do Saturdays or it's three points for me.

Go on the website and it`ll tell you all the available venues and days, pretty sure Saturdays are covered.
It'll be a while, yet, Gav, haven't even sent the form back to say I was driving yet. It came in the wife's name as the car is registered to her. At least I know the dealer sent the V5 off pretty quick.

Whoaaaa. If the letter/NIP is addressed to your wife and it was you driving, then SHE must fill it in nominating you as the driver. The rozzers will then send YOU your own NIP with your name on it. You cannot use her form to claim you were driving.

She has 28 days to respond and supply all the requested information - in this case by nominating the driver (i.e. You). Normal Pepipoo advice is to wait until about day 25 to respond. Take it to a Post Office, pay for a 1st class stamp, and get proof of posting and keep it. Do not miss the 28 day deadline.
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« Reply #33 on: 24 January 2016, 16:08:07 »

Well I hope they do Saturdays or it's three points for me.

Go on the website and it`ll tell you all the available venues and days, pretty sure Saturdays are covered.
It'll be a while, yet, Gav, haven't even sent the form back to say I was driving yet. It came in the wife's name as the car is registered to her. At least I know the dealer sent the V5 off pretty quick.

Whoaaaa. If the letter/NIP is addressed to your wife and it was you driving, then SHE must fill it in nominating you as the driver. The rozzers will then send YOU your own NIP with your name on it. You cannot use her form to claim you were driving.

She has 28 days to respond and supply all the requested information - in this case by nominating the driver (i.e. You). Normal Pepipoo advice is to wait until about day 25 to respond. Take it to a Post Office, pay for a 1st class stamp, and get proof of posting and keep it. Do not miss the 28 day deadline.
Yes...I know all that, but thanks anyway. ::) Mine, sorry, the wife's, form will be posted tomorrow by me. Why wait 25 days to send it off? It's a poxy course that's got to be done no matter when you send the letter back.

Never heard of pepicrap though  ;D
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« Reply #34 on: 24 January 2016, 16:37:02 »

Whoaaaa. If the letter/NIP is addressed to your wife and it was you driving, then SHE must fill it in nominating you as the driver. The rozzers will then send YOU your own NIP with your name on it. You cannot use her form to claim you were driving.

She has 28 days to respond and supply all the requested information - in this case by nominating the driver (i.e. You). Normal Pepipoo advice is to wait until about day 25 to respond. Take it to a Post Office, pay for a 1st class stamp, and get proof of posting and keep it. Do not miss the 28 day deadline.
Yes...I know all that, but thanks anyway. ::) Mine, sorry, the wife's, form will be posted tomorrow by me. Why wait 25 days to send it off? It's a poxy course that's got to be done no matter when you send the letter back.

Never heard of pepicrap though  ;D

You wait 25 days because the rozzers have several time deadlines that they have to meet in order to be able to successfully prosecute you.

The first deadline is that they have to serve the NIP on the registered keeper (RK) within 14 days of the date of the offense. They get the RK details from DVLA. However, where there has been a recent change of keeper things can get tricky. They might have served the notice on the previous owner, or the dealer. In either case, the dealer/previous owner would have nominated your wife, and then the rozzers wrote to her.  Or if the DVLA details had been updated promptly, then your wife may have the first to receive a NIP.

So basically, what was the date of the offense, what is the date on the NIP, and on what date did she receive the NIP? Also what sort of postage was on the envelope - 1st class?

The next deadline is that papers have to be laid before the courts within 6 months of the date of an offense for a crime to be tried by magistrates. So suppose they issued  NIP #1 to the original owner (2 weeks) who replied promptly (1 week) saying I sold the car to "Arfur Daley Motors inc". The scamera pratnership take a week to send NIP #2 to "Arfur Daley Motors inc", who promptly reply (1 week) nominating your wife. So we're now 5 weeks into the 6 months (26 weeks).

The scamera pratnership take a week to send a NIP #3 to your wife. Your wife then has 4 weeks to reply which she takes. So we're now 10 weeks in.

The scamera pratnership take a week to send a NIP #4 to you. You then have 4 weeks to reply grassing yourself up, which you take. So we're now 15 weeks in.

The scamera pratnership take a week to send a CoFP/Course to you. You then have 4 weeks to reply, which you take. So we're now 20 weeks in.

There are an awful lot of ifs and buts, but by doing the above you are giving the scamera pratnership every opportunity to screw up. It only take a week or too here and there for them to run out of time to lay the papers - and you are doing nothing wrong.
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« Reply #35 on: 24 January 2016, 17:22:56 »

Right....that's good...if you want to try and dodge the penalty. I don't.  :)
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« Reply #36 on: 24 January 2016, 17:29:14 »

Right....that's good...if you want to try and dodge the penalty. I don't.  :)

You mean if you want the authorities to comply with the laws that they are claiming you broke?

There is no guarantee that you will be offered a course (though I suspect you will be). And you will be using your "get out of jail free" card which can't be used again for (IIRC) another three years. However, if you're determined to plead guilty to a criminal charge for which you may not be guilty, then go right ahead.
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« Reply #37 on: 24 January 2016, 17:30:45 »

Right....that's good...if you want to try and dodge the penalty. I don't.  :)

You mean if you want the authorities to comply with the laws that they are claiming you broke?

There is no guarantee that you will be offered a course (though I suspect you will be). And you will be using your "get out of jail free" card which can't be used again for (IIRC) another three years. However, if you're determined to plead guilty to a criminal charge for which you may not be guilty, then go right ahead.
I broke the speed limit.......no ifs or buts.

And I posted the letter today.
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« Reply #38 on: 24 January 2016, 17:38:57 »

I broke the speed limit.......no ifs or buts.

And I posted the letter today.

The law states that to be guilty of the offense you have to have broken the speed limit, AND be served a NIP within time, AND a multitude of other things. If you're happy to be convicted on the basis of meeting just one of the criteria, then OK.
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« Reply #39 on: 24 January 2016, 18:00:26 »

Right....that's good...if you want to try and dodge the penalty. I don't.  :)

You mean if you want the authorities to comply with the laws that they are claiming you broke?

There is no guarantee that you will be offered a course (though I suspect you will be). And you will be using your "get out of jail free" card which can't be used again for (IIRC) another three years. However, if you're determined to plead guilty to a criminal charge for which you may not be guilty, then go right ahead.
I broke the speed limit.......no ifs or buts.

And I posted the letter today.

Fair play Esty... Seems those of us that are willing to say "Yup, I did it" are getting few and far between  ::)
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« Reply #40 on: 24 January 2016, 18:05:59 »

I'm with LD and Stemo himself on this.He's broken the law[speeding],he's been caught doing so and he's man enough to own up,admit it and take the punishment.fair play to him :y
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« Reply #41 on: 24 January 2016, 18:15:12 »

Yep fair play to Uncle STEMO!  :y

Personally I'd be looking at all the loopholes and ways to wriggle out of it, but then I'm not as manly as STEMO!  :P  :-*  ;D
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« Reply #42 on: 24 January 2016, 18:16:39 »

Yep fair play to Uncle STEMO!  :y

Personally I'd be looking at all the loopholes and ways to wriggle out of it, but then I'm not as manly as STEMO!  :P  :-*  ;D
No. You can't even evict a pissed-up girlie. ;D
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« Reply #43 on: 24 January 2016, 18:19:52 »

Yep fair play to Uncle STEMO!  :y

Personally I'd be looking at all the loopholes and ways to wriggle out of it, but then I'm not as manly as STEMO!  :P  :-*  ;D
No. You can't even evict a pissed-up girlie. ;D
Won't need to if she goes to prison ::)
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« Reply #44 on: 24 January 2016, 18:20:55 »

Yep fair play to Uncle STEMO!  :y

Personally I'd be looking at all the loopholes and ways to wriggle out of it, but then I'm not as manly as STEMO!  :P  :-*  ;D
No. You can't even evict a pissed-up girlie. ;D

Like your good self Uncle STEMO, I respect the law of the land!  :y
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