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Sir Tigger KC

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Re: Milk Floats
« Reply #45 on: 22 August 2019, 18:52:00 »

This is what Tunnie needs for his commute!  :y

I want one!  8)
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« Reply #46 on: 22 August 2019, 20:28:34 »

Not sure I’d take that down the M3....
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« Reply #47 on: 22 August 2019, 21:17:01 »

Not sure I’d take that down the M3....

Aaah it'd be alright!  :)  What could possibly go wrong?  :y  :D  ;D
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« Reply #48 on: 22 August 2019, 23:50:10 »

This is what Tunnie needs for his commute!  :y

I want one!  8)


It's the sort of personal transport that should be encouraged for urban use, where it's the sheer volume of traffic that is the biggest problem. We should subsidise urban public transport more efficiently too, but that's another rant.


The original Smart and BMW Minis should have been EVs. That would have have removed the atrocious Smart drivetrain, and made a much better car.
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« Reply #49 on: 23 August 2019, 00:24:29 »

And that brings us neatly back to the simple humble but very effective electric scooter ( not the Vespa type). Of course they will have to be outlawed.
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« Reply #50 on: 23 August 2019, 08:39:25 »

The original Smart and BMW Minis should have been EVs. That would have have removed the atrocious Smart drivetrain, and made a much better car.

Both are available as EVs now ... at an extortionate price.
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« Reply #51 on: 23 August 2019, 08:57:43 »

The original Smart and BMW Minis should have been EVs. That would have have removed the atrocious Smart drivetrain, and made a much better car.

Both are available as EVs now ... at an extortionate price.


Yes, now. The Smart's deficiencies would have been a lot less with an electric powertrain, and the whole car is well suited to that sort of use. The Mini was BMW's tacit admission that they needed a hot hatch without diluting their RWD only mantra. Not that it matters any more.



Of course the prices are extortionate, what else would you expect from Mercedes and BMW?
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Re: Milk Floats
« Reply #52 on: 23 August 2019, 10:06:46 »

In racing applications battery temperatures have to be closely monitored and indeed at the last MotoGP round in Austria one of the MotoE bikes caught fire whilst being charged.Presumably for racing they're pushing the boundaries and battery temps aren't such an issue with road vehicles?
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« Reply #53 on: 23 August 2019, 10:09:15 »

In racing applications battery temperatures have to be closely monitored and indeed at the last MotoGP round in Austria one of the MotoE bikes caught fire whilst being charged.Presumably for racing they're pushing the boundaries and battery temps aren't such an issue with road vehicles?

The Tesla (probably all other EVs?) still has a radiator, coolant system, electric coolant pump etc .. that should give you an idea of how seriously battery temperatures have to be taken when you're dealing with Lithium technology batteries.. but yes, I imagine in motorsport they are pushing the envelope :)
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« Reply #54 on: 23 August 2019, 12:34:03 »

This was the main issue with Gen1 Leafs, they had only passive thermal battery management. Indeed, they still do today, but with different battery chemistry that helps and also improved passive cooling.

AFAIK all other big ev manufacturers use active thermal management (both to warm the batteries and cool them).
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